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See my link on page 1. KS absolutely does represent a contract and there has been legal precedent set for this sort of thing. You don't have to believe me: believe the Federal Trade Commission.btdt said:It would seem to me that if these people really wanted their money back and had the legal right to do so, they'd sue the man. Because in the U.S., suing is the second national pastime right behind baseball.
The courts can freeze his assets until he makes repayments. His lack of free time becomes irrelevant.
Now of course, if the people don't have a legal recourse, meaning they had no legally binding contract, they might as well forget about ever seeing that money again.
Whether the man is a charlatan or not is irrelevant. It doesn't make you guilty of a crime. It may make him morally reprehensible, but not a criminal.
As far as I am concerned, not a single kickstarter is any different. It's a loot box per se. You're hoping your investment results in the ultimate loot box. And like all loot boxes, most are filled with junk.
Do you really need the Government to protect you from stupidity? Because that is essentially what you are asking for when you participate in these things and the outcome is less than expected.
They should sue the man... with the monetary reward to each participant being $1 to teach them a valuable life lesson. They obviously are In desperate need of one.
I do. It's my main rig. My Toshiba laptop is secondary.Nevereverland said:who uses mac for gaming anyways lol
Somehow, I doubt those fans who gave CIG 180 million would be fine if CIG stopped where they are today, saying "thanks for services rendered", so no it's not as good as it gets when it comes to business models.CrazKanuk said:Kind of a re-defining of the word "prestigious", that is unless we call every award given by a random website "prestigious". I haven't seen anything given out by MMORPG.com labeled as "prestigious". It's not even an award given by a collective of industry experts, it's voted by fans, lol.
That being said, *shocker* yes, Star Citizen is still a polarizing topic. Check here just about any day of the week.
As far as models go, it's made somewhere approaching $180 million from fans without delivering anything but a rough alpha. To me, from a business perspective, that's pretty much as good as it gets. Jealousy will get you nowhere.
There are those that rush to defend the project when anything bad is said about it (in order to "protect their investment" I guess), perhaps even trying to intentionally pull the wool over some people's eyes, and there are those that just want to know the truth.Herase said:Depends how you see it. At the end of the day, imho, it's a crowdfunded game. in it's simplest form is, you're putting money into someones dream. A dream can come true or not, but it's your choice from the very start weather or not you want to be part of.Viper482 said:I cannot fathom why anyone would defend what has transpired with SC. Man no wonder politics all over the world is so corrupt, when the population is this naïve it is like blood in the water for the sharks.
I can't compare it to EA and Activitsion tbh, when you have one that patents an idea to place players in a situation that they get battered by a paying player and hoodwinked into thinking they need those items to win and another that throttles your game-play behind the scenes in hopes of you purchasing more items.
What exactly has transpired? Delays? Not the greatest management? If that's it, then I wouldn't say things have transpired to the point it needs to be compared to politics. I've seen a lot of assumption of things transpiring, but nothing has happened.
This is why I haven't gotten involved in SC threads cause it just feels like hot air being blown about from both sides. The projects trucking along, you can either get involved or not, it's your choice ate the end of the day and, to me, that's the big difference.