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  • Okay WTF is a MMO? Really?

    klash2def said:
    Iselin said:
    klash2def said:
    So then that mean Star Citizen, a game being called MMO, isnt REALLY a MMO since it can only 16 people at once in a instance? 
    I do have to ask... why is calling games an MMO so important to you? Are you only allowed to play MMOs or something?
    I never said it was. For the 100th time stop twisting my damn words. I simply posed a question with my viewpoint of the answer I believe and provided evidence so you understand WHY I believe it so. 
    You didn't ask an innocent question. You asserted that it IS an MMO and din't like the replies you got and then you went on the offensive. So stop playing the victim while you characterize those who disagree with you, which is the vast majority in this thread, as being unable to adapt and have old thinking.

    You know the stuff you wrote earlier in the thread? We can still see it. We know what you said and how you said it. 
    MadFrenchieExcessionTheScavengerMaurgrimJamesGoblin
  • Okay WTF is a MMO? Really?

    klash2def said:
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    klash2def said:
    Iselin said:
    DMKano said:
    Iselin said:
    klash2def said:
    Annnnnnddddddd...  You're still arguing a red herring.  Noice!!
    annnnnnnnnnnddddd you are still missing the point. Noicer!!!
    Not at all.  You think forcing multiplayer on players and using dungeon crawling as group content qualifies Destiny to be an MMORPG.  Only, nothing about sharing the game world or dungeon crawling defines an MMORPG.  It qualifies it as multiplayer and RPG, respectively.  Additional features are needed to qualify it as massively multiplayer.
    That's exactly why Kano saying above that Narius is also right shows the root of the ignorance problem: when some online game has features resembling those historically found in MMOs, which is happening more and more these days, some people are quick to jump on the bandwagon and call them an MMO despite the fact that there is nothing massively multiplayer about it. Some MMOs have LFG tools so other games that have LFG lobbies must also be MMOs. Some MMOs have non-persistent instances for 4 or 5 players... therefore other multiplayer games with non persistent instances for 4 or 5 players must also be an MMO. People don't talk much in MMOs and they maybe know 40 people in a given MMO they play... therefore games with 40 people max *like survival games) are also MMOs. Likewise something that IS an MMO doesn't stop being one when the population is low even if it feels that way to you. If you're in a forest and have all your atention focused on one tree, you're still in a fucking forest.

    I can see that some MP games provide an experience that is similar to that of some modern MMOs but that still doesn't make them MMOs. Not that it really makes much difference if you enjoy it: you can call it Bob if that works for you.

    But people like the OP, for some unfathomable reason want to call non-MMOs, MMOs as if that mattered. I guess he must hold the MMO descriptor in high regard and wants whatever he likes to be labeled that way. I can see a site wanting to get more clicks doing it but WhyTF would a player do it?

    If we were actually playing an MMO I see a lot of people in this thread dying from standing in stupid.


    So is Destiny an MMO?
    It's a game.
    Destiny is a MMORPG-FPS game Yes.
    Stop resisting change and you will understand. You old heads kill me.. you cry and whine and bitch about "OH THE MMO IS DEAD!" "IT JUST NOT THE SAME!" "I WANT MY BLOCKY AVATAR BACK!"  The moment something new happens all I hear is More bitching and resisting. You cant please old MMO players and the MMO genre (YES) wont/CANT grow until the current way of thinking dies out.

    EMBRACE CHANGE, its good for you.
    Like I said, standing in stupid
    Standing?  I imagine he'll be drowning in it any second.
    Yeah he thinks it's an age issue now. Sort of reminds me of the DPS dying like flies in a dungeon PUG because they insist on standing in stupid despite all the brightly colored telegraphs who then blame the healer :)

    I never said it was a age thing. I said clearly if you read my other posts, that its a way of thinking nothing to do with age. You think old. Period. 

    Nothing I said is wrong. You just cant get past your mind that your favorite era of gaming is over and that's why most of you play on private emu servers because you are resisting the change that is happening. 

    This whole thread is people trying to twist my words or OPINION as if I said Destiny is the answer to the worlds issues.. I simply said its a MMO because it has ALL the features other MMOs have. What I said is true. It does. The argument you keep bring up is "its not big enough!"

    So is a smartphone in 2017 a computer? Cant it do everything a computer can do? WHY YES IT CAN! Its a TYPE of computer! WOW amazing How time forces evolution!  OH wait.. according to the people who resist change a Phone is Not and cant be a computer because its called a phone and its not big enough, oh and you cant change the graphics card! man..FOH with that bs. 

    You people cant deal with change for reasons I will never know, but guess what? It doesn't matter because you can resist change all you want but its still going to happen. Destiny is a step in the right direction for MMOs.. insult me all you want..call me stupid all you want.. I am not a person who resists change unlike you, I believe its necessary for evolution, instead of resist I compare and observe and try to figure out if it really is the direction things are should go in.

    You don't have to like it, Its my opinion.. but I'm not going to tolerate being disrespected for having my opinion either. I'm a grown ass man.  You have your Opinion, I have mine. 
    You do know what "standing in stupid" is don't you? You might not since it's an MMO thing that people who play real MMOs say. It's when you don't get out of the way of incoming massive damage when the area that will be affected is clearly shown to you.

    Make more sense now?

    So that takes me back to my question... why do you want Destiny 2 to be called an MMO so badly? How is it important?
    ExcessionCecropiaTheScavengerJamesGoblin
  • Okay WTF is a MMO? Really?

    Scorchien said:
    And funny thing nowhere on Destiny2 official site do they call it an MMO

      They do call it Single player /MultiPlayer /Cooperative

      even ATVI knows not to call it an MMORPG
    The hilarious thing is that a lot of developers these days, even ZOS with a legitimate MMO like ESO, want to avoid calling their games MMOs because their marketing dept is telling them the negative connotations of the label outweigh the positives... I guess klash2def didn't get the memo that he's supposed to say "shared world" now.
    ScorchienTheScavengerDeVoDeVoJamesGoblin
  • Okay WTF is a MMO? Really?

    klash2def said:
    Iselin said:
    DMKano said:
    Iselin said:
    klash2def said:
    Annnnnnddddddd...  You're still arguing a red herring.  Noice!!
    annnnnnnnnnnddddd you are still missing the point. Noicer!!!
    Not at all.  You think forcing multiplayer on players and using dungeon crawling as group content qualifies Destiny to be an MMORPG.  Only, nothing about sharing the game world or dungeon crawling defines an MMORPG.  It qualifies it as multiplayer and RPG, respectively.  Additional features are needed to qualify it as massively multiplayer.
    That's exactly why Kano saying above that Narius is also right shows the root of the ignorance problem: when some online game has features resembling those historically found in MMOs, which is happening more and more these days, some people are quick to jump on the bandwagon and call them an MMO despite the fact that there is nothing massively multiplayer about it. Some MMOs have LFG tools so other games that have LFG lobbies must also be MMOs. Some MMOs have non-persistent instances for 4 or 5 players... therefore other multiplayer games with non persistent instances for 4 or 5 players must also be an MMO. People don't talk much in MMOs and they maybe know 40 people in a given MMO they play... therefore games with 40 people max *like survival games) are also MMOs. Likewise something that IS an MMO doesn't stop being one when the population is low even if it feels that way to you. If you're in a forest and have all your atention focused on one tree, you're still in a fucking forest.

    I can see that some MP games provide an experience that is similar to that of some modern MMOs but that still doesn't make them MMOs. Not that it really makes much difference if you enjoy it: you can call it Bob if that works for you.

    But people like the OP, for some unfathomable reason want to call non-MMOs, MMOs as if that mattered. I guess he must hold the MMO descriptor in high regard and wants whatever he likes to be labeled that way. I can see a site wanting to get more clicks doing it but WhyTF would a player do it?

    If we were actually playing an MMO I see a lot of people in this thread dying from standing in stupid.


    So is Destiny an MMO?
    It's a game.
    Destiny is a MMORPG-FPS game Yes.
    Stop resisting change and you will understand. You old heads kill me.. you cry and whine and bitch about "OH THE MMO IS DEAD!" "IT JUST NOT THE SAME!" "I WANT MY BLOCKY AVATAR BACK!"  The moment something new happens all I hear is More bitching and resisting. You cant please old MMO players and the MMO genre (YES) wont/CANT grow until the current way of thinking dies out.

    EMBRACE CHANGE, its good for you.
    Like I said, standing in stupid
    ExcessionTheScavenger
  • Okay WTF is a MMO? Really?

    DMKano said:
    Iselin said:
    DMKano said:
    Iselin said:
    klash2def said:
    Annnnnnddddddd...  You're still arguing a red herring.  Noice!!
    annnnnnnnnnnddddd you are still missing the point. Noicer!!!
    Not at all.  You think forcing multiplayer on players and using dungeon crawling as group content qualifies Destiny to be an MMORPG.  Only, nothing about sharing the game world or dungeon crawling defines an MMORPG.  It qualifies it as multiplayer and RPG, respectively.  Additional features are needed to qualify it as massively multiplayer.
    That's exactly why Kano saying above that Narius is also right shows the root of the ignorance problem: when some online game has features resembling those historically found in MMOs, which is happening more and more these days, some people are quick to jump on the bandwagon and call them an MMO despite the fact that there is nothing massively multiplayer about it. Some MMOs have LFG tools so other games that have LFG lobbies must also be MMOs. Some MMOs have non-persistent instances for 4 or 5 players... therefore other multiplayer games with non persistent instances for 4 or 5 players must also be an MMO. People don't talk much in MMOs and they maybe know 40 people in a given MMO they play... therefore games with 40 people max *like survival games) are also MMOs. Likewise something that IS an MMO doesn't stop being one when the population is low even if it feels that way to you. If you're in a forest and have all your atention focused on one tree, you're still in a fucking forest.

    I can see that some MP games provide an experience that is similar to that of some modern MMOs but that still doesn't make them MMOs. Not that it really makes much difference if you enjoy it: you can call it Bob if that works for you.

    But people like the OP, for some unfathomable reason want to call non-MMOs, MMOs as if that mattered. I guess he must hold the MMO descriptor in high regard and wants whatever he likes to be labeled that way. I can see a site wanting to get more clicks doing it but WhyTF would a player do it?

    If we were actually playing an MMO I see a lot of people in this thread dying from standing in stupid.


    So is Destiny an MMO?
    It's a game.


    It is and if one person calls it an MMO and another doesnt, its still a game right?

    So whats the problem exactly?

    Is it not ok for anyone to stop calling an "MMO by design" no longer an "MMO in gameplay" when the population dips so low that you cant do MMO-content?

    heh
    If you want to call your car a boulder when it runs out of gas, be my guest. Personally I still think of it as a car and will go get some gas and put some in it... I wouldn't do that with a boulder.
    MadFrenchieCecropiaExcessionTheScavenger