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  • Breaking: CD Projekt Red Calls Cyberpunk 2077 a 'First-Person RPG' - Cyberpunk 2077 - MMORPG.com


    In an MMO, sure.. but I don't see why anyone would be comparing Cyberpunk to an MMO.
    Well there's going to be a lot of people playing Cyberpunk 2077 on their PCs with an active internet connection while they play. Some of those people will also be massive.

    Connected? Check
    Massive? Check

    Yup looks like it fits the new criteria for MMO.
    MidPrincessTacticalZombeh
  • Breaking: CD Projekt Red Calls Cyberpunk 2077 a 'First-Person RPG' - Cyberpunk 2077 - MMORPG.com

    Iselin said:
    Asm0deus said:
    Iselin said:
    Asm0deus said:

    Your definition is a little too strict Islin with he whole, "mixed with a heavy dose of detective fiction Noir." criteria.



    It's not my definition it's what people like William Gibson, Richard K. Morgan and Mike Pondsmith have been saying to describe it for decades. It's a defining characteristic of cyberpunk stories cited by the people who created the sub-genre.

    It is not a feature of Steampunk which is more about the anachronisms created by producing fictional high tech with primitive tech.
    Mate they are both sub genres of sci fi that's a fact. They are both similar in that they are about future tech but one is based in Victorian "what if" era and one is based on future right now what if....there is plenty of cyber punk that has nothing to do with the Noir sub genre.


    Whatever. Not worth the time to argue about it.

    PS. Of course they're both sci-fi sub genres. You want to point me to where I said they weren't?
    No, but again my point is technically that they are the exact same genre about one hundred years apart.
    Yeah? When I read everything both Jules Verne and HG Wells wrote I must have missed the parts about computers, implants and cyborgs as well as the evil corporations that had replaced governments.

    Other than that yes, of course you're right, they're identical.
    Asm0deus
  • Breaking: CD Projekt Red Calls Cyberpunk 2077 a 'First-Person RPG' - Cyberpunk 2077 - MMORPG.com

    Asm0deus said:

    Your definition is a little too strict Islin with he whole, "mixed with a heavy dose of detective fiction Noir." criteria.



    It's not my definition it's what people like William Gibson, Richard K. Morgan and Mike Pondsmith have been saying to describe it for decades. It's a defining characteristic of cyberpunk stories cited by the people who created the sub-genre.

    It is not a feature of Steampunk which is more about the anachronisms created by producing fictional high tech with primitive tech.
    Asm0deusMendel
  • Let's talk about what Fallout 76 is, not what it isn't.

    Mendel said:
    PVP always?  Then I can say with 100% accuracy that this game will be Mendelless.




    Gang wars with nukes as well. What could possibly go wrong? :)
    KyleranRobsolf
  • Fallout 76 is indeed an MMORPG, and it sounds pretty great! - MMORPG.com News

    klash2def said:
    Iselin said:
    klash2def said:
    Iselin said:
    klash2def said:
    Iselin said:
    If it's a descriptor it should be able to describe what it is. I'll wait for you to do that using words without half-baked examples :) 

    de·scrip·tor
    dəˈskriptər/
    noun
    1. an element or term that has the function of describing, identifying, or indexing, in particular.
      • LINGUISTICS
        a word or expression used to describe or identify something.
        noun: descriptor; plural noun: descriptors




    Descriptor- a word or expression used to describe or identify something.

    MMO - Type of game

    LMAO - Laughing My Ass Off


    Grunt grunt? Grunt grunt grunty grunt! MMO grunt grunt, grunt.
    Grunt Grunt Grunt Grunt Grunt! Grunt Grunt Grunt Grunt Grunt Grunt. Grunt Grunt Grunt Grunt Grunt Grunt Grunt Grunt Grunt Grunt Grunt Grunt.

    Translation for non Grunt Speakers: Thanks for speaking my language! it makes this so much easier. You cant accept or properly respond because you know and see that I've been right about it. 
    Dude anyone who puts this list of games "Destiny, Division, ESO, add Anthem and Fallout76" in the same sentence calling them all MMOs is just fucking nuts. Especially since I know you play ESO. Have you ever even been to Cyrodiil? How does a game with hundreds of players in one PVP fight even belong in the same sentence as Destiny, Division, Anthem and Fallout76?

    Many people here can make reasonable arguments about why Destiny, Division, Anthem and Fallout76 game play can feel a little bit like some parts of true MMO game play. But you're not one of those people because the best that you can come up with is "like yeah some of us call every online game an MMO and we're the cool, hip ones." In what universe do you consider that to even be an argument that advances your definition agenda?

    TFW when you don't realize ESO is a heavily instanced online game. Just like Destiny, just like Division. I cannot log into ESO and just find a person by running to them. No, I have to use travel to player... you know why? In Destiny, I cannot just log in and fly to earth and meet my friends. No, I must "join fireteam" first. Same thing with the division. You know why?

    So wth are you talking about? Who said anything about being "cool or hip"  stop trying to change the narrative thanks. I'm literally telling you why and how these smaller games have MMO gameplay and you won't accept it because it's coming from me. Everything I say on this website you have always have something to say about it. You go out of your way to try and prove me wrong and end up looking lost so you try to change the narrative. Make the whole thing about something else. 

    No, not today. Today you will Stay your ass on topic. It's about MMO being a Descriptor of a type of game. That's what I'm talking about. That's what it is. MMO is describing ESO, Destiny, Anthem, F76, Division all at the same time yes. That's what they are. 

    You can say anything you want, MMO-Lite, New-MMO, whatever, MMO has to be in there because that's what these games are doing. 

    MMO used to be a Buzzword, then it was a Genre, now its a descriptor. If you cant respond to that without changing the topic please don't respond.  
    So in other words, no you have never set foot in Cyrodiil. It explains a lot actually. None of the phasing you talk about exists there. I at least tried to explain several pages ago why this matters to my definition of MMO.

    Where is your explanation of what type of game meets your definition and why and more importantly, which online games don't and why? It should be easy for you to do since, as you keep saying, MMO is a descriptor. So tell us what it's describing to you.

    And BTW, if you read the article before launching into your preachy stuff about why it's just some people that can't let go of old definitions, you'd know it was Bill, not Suzie that wrote this.
    klash2def