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Well, thats probably better than an underage girl asking for nudes, though it wouldn't be the first time, surprising how many under age girls in games turn out to be over 50 and male thoughScorchien said:I think.............. hes implying the people asking the girl for nudes .......not the girlPhry said:While i don't think an under age girl breaking the EULA by playing a game with an age rating is a good thing, i don't think she really deserves to be sent to prison for itMars_Orbital said:Traps are gay is fine, but when they get into the talking about x rated material, like raping the President of the United states Wife, or asking girl who stated she is underage, and asking for nudes. That is not only toxic, it is a prison sentence.Phry said:Have been playing BDO for quite a while now, i haven't really done any PVP in the game although my highest level character is almost level 58, i am in a 'life skilling' guild, we do a lot of guild activities, zero toxicity involved, although, i have noticed several times in the RP chat that people are still undecided there whether traps are gay, that is about as 'toxic' as it gets on the chat channels and even then its just a joke.
I suspect the OP's problem is that in seeking to find a toxic environment, they no doubt either went to significant lengths to find it or manufactured it through provocation, the game does have PVP after all, this is a result that can just as easily be duplicated in any online game.
BDO is a hugely popular game so rumours or suggestions of its 'demise' are without any kind of merit, though i suspect that the attitude to other players that the OP demonstrates might be a significant hurdle for them when interacting with players, to make a 'famous' starwars quote, when Luke asks what is in there, Yoda replies, only that which you take with you.
THe game is Dead to me, never made it anything other then that Senator Durbin.
Ive been playing MMO's for such a long time now, that its hard to remember what it was like before they existed, but your right, the original Everquest was in its time extremely popular, as someone who was hooked on it for several years i think the term Evercrack was appropriate, but those were such different times, if a new game launched today with Everquests peak numbers, it would likely be classed as a failure, MMO's have evolved and in doing so they have become more mainstream, while a few players are still playing those now really old games, they are such a small fraction of the whole that they can almost be classed as a rounding error, there are plenty of players around who played those old games, it is amusing to me however that the assumption is that 'old school' players wouldn't enjoy playing modern games, like that was somehow against the rules or something. So yes, i've been playing MMO's for over a decade, i hope that i can still say the same in another decade, and that is that i actually like many of the 'Good' modern games, just don't get me started on EA and Activision! (shakes fist!)linadragon said:There are a lot of old school posters. I'm probably one of the longest playing (without getting jaded) mmorpg players that is still around the genre generally speaking myself (I've been around since the beginning of the genre and was around for MUDs and the like before hand) I was younger then and have watched the genre both evolve and devolve in certain ways.Scot said:I actually think we have many old school posters on the site, as shown when MMO recently became a ubiquitous term for any co-op game then any persistent online world.
I have to say as well that the "fashion players" are playing some of the best MMOs we have, ESO, FF14 etc. There is not a AAA old school MMO still running. So we play what we can.
The OP here needs to realize that those "core' types that he thinks he needs to push for are no longer the reality. Games can't scrape by on what they used to and still do well enough to get made. Gaming has gone mainstream and it isn't just "fashion" players that play these newer MMORPGs. I've been around a long time and I enjoy alot of the newer stuff that comes out still.
I do think we could look at both developing systems further to be deeper, but I also think we need to make them easy enough to understand. OP is the type that thinks somehow trying to keep to that old stubborn demographic somehow makes his opinion more justified or right vs others and quite frankly it doesn't at all. I was around for these core games, I've been around and I know what a lot of these game systems were like and a lot of it is just nostalgia at this point that keeps players there.
EQ still has many good systems, but it never peaked over 500k players.
Not sure that describes Pantheon all that well, its more often described as being hard core cooperative, it all sounds very much like Wildstar, i don't think that anyone really wants a 'hard core' game anymore, they like the sound of it, but i think the reality of it might be disappointing.Vorthanion said:Sick of pvp and arcade style gameplay. Pantheon's pve focus on slower paced coop gameplay suits me nicely.