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  • Level Scaling Borefest...

    One of the things that still attracts young players to WoW was the easy-mode.  I think they are going to lose more current, young players than they attract past players back to the game with this change
  • Star Citizen, I am disappointed.

    Erillion said:
    Man eats half baked cake then complains 'it don't taste good'.


    But isnt it more like this...

    Man is shown video after video of how awesome the cake will be on wednesday and asked to keep giving money to the chef to bake the cake.  Wednesday comes around and the cake is served half baked but the chef complains they needed more time even though it was the chef who said the cake would be ready by wednesday.

    P.S. Chefs wife states the cake is still in alpha and should not be judged by the promotional videos that showed it to be delicious and those videos were just puffery which is a perfectly legal marketing tactic.
  • When developers say the game is in BETA, but still have a working subscription / cash shop?

    Sovrath said:
    SEANMCAD said:

    Question for you guys. 
    What about a game that was:
    1. in Early Access
    2. charged more than double standard market price while in early access
    3. was to be a free to play game at released
    4. had active lootboxes you had to pay for while it was in early access

    what should happen with such an example?
    You leave out so much information.

    Based on what you said "nothing".

    1, In early access

    Great, you then, as the player, have been notified that it is in early access and have been warned that you are playing an unfinished game and that your sole reason for playing is that you want to support the game/development. Nothing needed to be done.

    2, charged more than double standard market price while in early access

    What does that mean? Because I have never seen a game charging, say, 120 dollars and then bringing it down to 60. I HAVE seen games charge more than launch price as they are giving you extras that people paying at launch will not have access to. More in game currency, titles, in game items, access to the game throughout development, etc. So in the first example "that doesn't happen". In the second example "nothing needs to be done as you the player have been informed of what you are getting for your money and being a big boy you can make your own decisions on how to spend your money.

    3, was to be a free to play game at release.

    Most likely you are paying to support development and get those early access perks as described above. You know what you are paying for and must decide if those "items/perks" are worh the money. You would most likely compare those items/perks with the cash shop at launch and would probably find that purchasing those items perks (if they are even available) would be about the same if not more. Nothing needs to be done.

    4, Had active loot boxes you had to pay for while it was in early access

    Are those loot boxes going to be wiped at the drop of a dime or do they stick with your character until you use them in which case can the items be wiped at any time or do they stick with your character throughout your time in the game? If the former then that's an issue as you are paying money for items that can be wiped at any time and therefore you are possibly flushing your money. If those items stick with your character then nothing, you knew what you were paying for and you are getting what you paid for.
    Dont feed him and he will go away.
  • SC is now selling tanks ...

    Psychos1s said:
    Erillion said:
    Kyleran said:
     such as building up a base,
    In my case:

    * first player space station in EVE

    * first Titan in the game

    Have fun
    Bit off topic.

    Former ASCN?
    ASCN was a large industrial alliance/corp/guild in EVE Online that is credited with building the first titan in the game.  Sadly, being a bunch of builders in a pvp game saw them also have the first titan loss (their titan was destroyed).  Their titans corpse is still in the game as a monument.
  • Star Citizen Wins Prestigious "Worst MMO Business Model Of 2017" Award

    Erillion said:
    Talonsin said:
    Erillion said:
    Funny that by its own definition since the start of the project Star Citizen is NOT an MMO. Making that MMORPG vote somewhat futile. 

    Have fun
    I am surprised, you claim to know so much about this games development and are always copying things from the official site within hours of them going up that you would not know about stuff like this:

    "More than a space combat sim, more than a first person shooter and more than an MMO: Star Citizen is the First Person Universe that will allow for unlimited gameplay."
    Source: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/about-the-game/spaceflight

    And lets not forget that this game has been marketed as an MMO from day one.

    Officially announced today at GDC Online, the MMO has already been in production for a year.Source: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/10/wing-commanders-chris-roberts-returns-to-gaming-with-ambitious-mmo/

    But lets play your game and pretend none of this ever happened...

    ArsTechnica quote .... you are passing off the words of the author of the article as official marketing quotes from CIG.

    They are not.

    The author of the article calls it an MMO. Not Chris Roberts. Not CIG.

    RobertsSpaceIndustries quote .... they quite literally call it something else than an MMO. A First Person Universe.

    Keep in mind ... i would LOVE to be able to call SC a massive multiplayer game. I hope the technology they are working on will enable us to have that. But at the moment we are not there yet.

    Have fun
    So by your logic is is also not a space sim or a FPS?  I guess all those who felt they were getting a space sim should ask for a refund?

    I do enjoy your wordplay though.  I guess the Audi 8 is not a car by your logic

    I guess being a nurse is not a job - https://www.theodysseyonline.com/nursing-more-than-job?utm_expid=.oW2L-b3SQF-m5a-dPEU77g.0&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

    Many marketing companies say their product is more than a XXX as a way of saying it is in the top tier of being an XXX.  The official website saying it is more than an MMO is:
    1. The official word that it is indeed an MMO
    2. Marketing speak for it being a great MMO

    No amount of word play and funny logic is going to change that mate