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No, you are not making questions.@Nyctelios- I made no assumptions about whether or not those games were MMOs in the original post to avoid biasing peoples answers. I didn't say they were. I didn't say they weren't. I just asked a question.
If you read every single post I've written since then you can see my assumption is these games are NOT MMOs. Including the 2nd post directly beneath the OP.
Stop trying to argue with me like I disagree.
Such terms are rarely broad.Just because a definition is broad does not mean it doesn't have value.ZionBane said:Nope. It commonly means what we have said it means.. The game world is Open PvP, your meaning is for lack of a better way say this, Bullshit, and is too broad based to be of any value as a descriptive term, That is why terms like realms vs realms and battlegrounds are used instead.
At minimum I believe I have provided sufficient evidence that Open World PvP being defined as "Non-instanced PvP" or "PvP which takes place in an Open World" is a commonly accepted definition by many within the gaming community.
Given the lack of an accepted gamer dictionary the commonly accepted usage is the best standard of measure we can go by when defining terms within gaming.
So if we were to accept the premise that "Open World PvP means the entire world is open for PvP" we would at least have to also accept that that "Non-instanced / PvP Which takes place in an Open world" is a secondary definition.
However, unlike me, not a single one of you has provided any evidence to support your claims. During all my searching for this evidence I came across one sub comment on reddit by a user who as not very well spoken and did not seem particularly knowledgeable that seems to support your view:
"A third of the territories (or more) are not PVP zones. And you cant flag against your own faction. So you say Archeage is open PVP? I can respond with WoW is open PVP then.
If you are looking for true open world PVP, play Eve."
Other than that, nadda.
So I would say the ball is your court on providing sufficient evidence to support your claims.
Sandbox vs. Themepark
Consensual vs. Non-consensual
Planned vs. Impromptu
Instanced vs. Open World
These are very broad words the describe a very broad range of things. Entire categories of verbs and nouns almost all fall within one of the other.
Differentiating between the two is still a massively important distinction. You are trying to take a very broad term and make it fit your narrow definition. You're all indignant because "It's not Open world PvP its realm vs. realm or world vs. world!"
That's like saying. "It's not a mammal, it's a dog!!!"
And you've still provided zero evidence to back your position.
His word is his word. Nothing more and nothing less. Let's avoid this belittling towards other users. Steven's word weight as much as anyone else here.Torval said:If the creative director comes here and says nothing has changed and you won't believe it then nothing will satisfy your request for information. Do you plan on continuing to troll the game if you're not open to discussion or information?Prescience said:You realize your argument is weak and holds no water. It's like someone that has been charged with a crime saying " I didn't do it. " and then you go around saying " He said he's innocent, okay? "Ponzini said:Meanwhile in literally the same thread from a developer:Jacobin said:It just shows the desperation. If the referral program has changed, conveniently right near the end of the campaign, it would be air tight fraud,
"There has been no change in our referral system. The author of this article had an obvious agenda, and a request has been made to PCGamer for a retraction of the article. It is telling that his sources linked in the article itself were from Reddit. A shame."
He just said it hasn't changed. So what are you arguing? Or are we just throwing facts out the window again? Unreal.