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  • The Most Wanted MMO of 2018 is.........PANTHEON: RISE OF THE FALLEN! - Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen

    MaxBacon said:
    Rarely hear of any crowdfunded title outside of sites like these.

    Even SC is completely anonymous aside from those of us who like to keep a pulse on the industry.  I have precisely zero friends who know what Pantheon, SC, AoC, CoE, CU, or Crowfall are.
    I mean you hear more about other crowdfunded titles than this one, for example here on the search trends of google: https://i.imgur.com/At5HC7l.png

    Ofc SC is SC as usual, but the top wanted game on this site really trends low and I find interesting how here the trends are so different than what people are actually searching for.

    Pantheon asks for cash to post on their official forums.  That is why a lot of their fans are using the forums here as a sort of quasi-official forum.  The developers post here sometimes, as well, which bolsters that.

    The fans of that game are pretty hardcore, even if they aren't very numerous.  This has the result of slanting polls on this site because they generally respond to everything the game is mentioned in.

    On their website their more information on the pledge packages than the game itself.
  • NCSoft Announces PC MMO 'Project TL' - MMORPG.com News

    Honestly, this market would have been served if BDO actually had a PVE end-game, but they don't. So now, players are still waiting on... Lineage III... One of the reasons why I don't play BDO is because the game has no purpose if you want a complete PvPvE experience. Just grinding on trivial MOBs is not enough.
  • Graphics

    Rhoklaw said:
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    svann said:
    Sometimes when a game runs poorly its not because its designed for too good of a machine, its just because it was designed poorly and no matter how good a machine you get its going to run poorly.

    As an example, you try running through Warsliks Woods in EQ1.  Even 17 years later its a lag fest. 

    I run though Warsliks Woods with a toaster. Giant Fort is still one of my favorite low-level camps.
    Did you manage to find a place to plug it in? The toaster i mean and what are you toasting....umm Don Rickles...pop tarts? 

    This is what i expect Pantheon to be...6/10 possibly a 7/10
    By mmorpg scoring standards that is a 9.9/10 or better,by Gamespace standards that is a 11/10.

    Graphics should be the least of anyone's worries,you should expect pretty much Vanguard type graphics,it is the game play and possibly some unique ideas we hope to see as being good enough to keep us interested long term.

    I would also say that since we saw the exact same results with every rendition of EQ>VG that we should also expect to see some lag.

    Currently, there is virtually nothing unique about this game.  It's a legit EQ clone.  This is a problem.

    I know they say they're fine with being a niche, but this formula is old - and getting older - and most players are simply not attracted to this style of game.

    The Players most attracted to it are getting older and many of them simply do not have the kind of time to dedicate to a game that something like Vanilla EQ required...  I think people "excited" about this are forgetting that EQ actually got kind of "easy" a long time ago (around PoP timeframe) - if we're talking about "grind" and time investment to feel like you're making progress in the game.

    Even many EQ players are likely to balk at this game, for that reason.

    Yes, it's going to be like Early EQ...  But EQ hasn't been like Early EQ for about a dozen years...

    Many of the people who wanted that, quit when that game changed and likely aren't looking to go back to that - at this point in time.
    You yourself just said EQ hasn't been EQ for 12 years. Doesn't kind of make sense that Brad would like to bring back the old school EQ format to the genre? This genre has been slowly dying ever since WoW became the standard. Than it took an even deeper decent into oblivion with all the P2W Asian grinders.

    When I say EQ hasn't been EQ, I mean the game has evolved and isn't a carbon copy of what it was on release...  It evolved because players wanted evolution, not because Verant/SOE decided to butcher it.  EQ is still EQ.  It still plays like EQ.  The fact that it has evolved over the past [almost] 20 years doesn't change that.  It was necessary.  WoW probably took half of EQ's player base, because it's was an evolution of the EQ formula.

    Designing a modern MMORPG based off of Pre-Expansion EQ gameplay sort of misses the point.  How many players do they expect to get for that, especially with a subscription...  MMORPGs aren't exactly cheap to develop and run.

    Any player with an IQ above 60 should be questioning the viability of such a game.  On the contrary, all we see here (for the most part) is defense and blind hype.

    No, I don't want to go back to Pre-Expansion EQ gameplay.

    WoW is the "standard" because it's the only game that has been able to deliver good gameplay, polish, great performance on "average hardware," and incorporate amazing lore.  It doesn't help that Blizzard's content development teams are really good, and they release a lot of content - even between Expansions.  This makes WoW the default, reliable, non-volatile, safe choice for a lot of people.

    Other games are decent.  FFXIV is decent, but the gameplay (combat, etc.) is molasses-paced and it bores a lot of people.  Do a quick Google Search for it.

    Games like ESO were overhyped and aren't nearly as good as their fanboys make it out to be.  We see this whenever a new game releases.

    The reason why WoW is where it is, is because the developers focused on developing a great product, and less on Public Relations.

    And I'm not sure how any game that is modeling itself after Pre-Expansion EQ can be compared favorably to Asian Grinders in terms of time sink.  Maybe you're write about the P2W part, but the Asian Grinders got that formula from ... EverQuest.

    So excuse me while I chuckle at that bit for a minute.
  • Is Destiny 2 an MMO:Poll

    Destiny 2 is the most fun I’ve had in am MMORPG since EverQuest back in the day. 

    Yes. I consider it an MMORPG. I actually think it’s better since it’s an FPS type game and it isn’t so heavily designed around either solo or group play. It seems to strike a much better balance between the two than any MMO that I’ve played (they tend to be polarizing in how far the pendulum can be shifted by conventional MMORPG developers). 

    The nature of of the game also means is completely playable on consoles and you can master the controls in an hour or so - not really the case for something like FFXIV. 

    Im totally sold on it.

    PC MMOs are going to start bleeding customers to console MMOs like this. The consoles are cheap and remove system requirements as a barrier, and these games have better gameplay along with all the communication tools being built directly into the platform. 

    I doubt I will go back to PC MMOs again. I don’t see a point in them, anymore. The nostalgia is good, but I can’t be bothered sitting at a desk and being so monetarily limited when I can lie in bed comfortably while playing a game like this on a cheap console and controller with good graphics and consistent, reliable performance. And don’t have to worry about upgrading until the next console generation...