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He was talking about the TOS that was already talked on page 4 of this thread.What account? There is not even a game.. much less an account for that game. As such I highly doubt that you have signed a ToS or an EULA yet, because you have not logged into the game, (which is often where those things are)Wellspring said:What about legally? If it's anything like other MMORPGs, such account selling transactions are against the ToS.AshyLarry24 said:You can easily sell your pledge on a 3rd party site like I already mentioned. Then you don't have to be a disgruntled backer anymore!Wellspring said:
If you accept that they have things under control you might end up buying something from them and losing your money if they can't deliver, whereas running around like a headless chicken is free.Accepting that if they say they have things under control, that they have things under control, is a whole lot better then running around like a chicken with head chopped off screaming the whole game is gonna die, when you really have no idea.cjmarsh said:You're basically arguing that willful ignorance is alright as long as it comes with a positive mentality. But if you don't want to admit things because they are negative then how will you ever change or inspire the change you really want? People aren't pessimistic because they enjoy it, they're pessimistic because they have a vision of something that works better and want to see it realized.But see, it's not True, until it happens, right now, it's nothing more then a pessimistic outlook, recited endlessly. Even if you agree with their prediction, it makes it no less pessimistic. And if someone is so sure something is going to fail, why not just walk away from it, why hang around and harp upon it endlessly?GeezerGamer said:
As for any truth, given that half their ramblings and objections revolve around tin foil hat mudslinging about ivory towers, and what have you, its like they are playing their own delusional fantasy game around this games development.
Now, If you really look at it, it's more a cry for attention, they want to be head, they want this company to listen due to some self imposed feelings of importance and perhaps they were given a head nod for suggesting an idea that I would wager has already been around for a few decades, and suddenly feel they should have the power to shape the game as a whole, and perhaps got blown off when they pushed too hard, hence their "way forward" post they think is going to change the whole game.
Now, If that is who you want to follow, be my guest, but.. for me. I like games, I enjoy playing games, and I look forward to new and fun games play. To me, CoE is not new in the sense of Online Games, it's more a return to old school MUDs, which I loved playing back in the day.
But, this is just one of many games out there to me, so, I am not going to piss away my life tending an ear to the ramblings of pessimist, if that is what makes you happy and you want to cling that they are prophetic truth speakers, be my guest, but don't expect me to give that decision, or the words you cling to, any respect.
If they end up being right.. Oh well. Guess Ill just have to play something else.. much like what I am doing right now.. playing something else. So my life won't change, as such, I have no reason to humor such negativity.
Now, Don't let me stop you doing that.. but understand I am not going to take you seriously either.
A journalist introducing a product should try to be careful that she doesn't introduce a scam as a product.SBFord said:For those arguing on the validity of a news story, let me remind you of the definition of "news":noun, ( usually used with a singular verb)1. a report of a recent event; intelligence; information:His family has had no news of his whereabouts for months.2.The presentation of a report on recent or new events in a newspaper or other periodical or on radio or television.3. such reports taken collectively; information reported: There's good news tonight.
Let me point out the salient phrases: INFORMATION, THE PRESENTATION OF A REPORT ON RECENT OR NEW EVENTS.
This is why the story is being laid out. The charge of "fake news" is just a smokescreen to stop people from objectively determining the validity of the information presented and their personal reaction to it. The tactic is the new "thing" these days and is only used by those who want to see information flow in only one pre-determined direction.
The news item is not an endorsement. It is not an opinion. It is a fact about something that has happened with regard to a game that many people on this site have loved and miss since it shut down.
If anyone reading this is not doing their own due diligence when visiting the IndieGoGo page, then then that is on them, not on MMORPG.com. Once again I will reiterate that I have a lot more faith in the intelligence of this community to figure out what is legit and what is a scam. Everyone must decide for themselves.
Information is power. Critical thinking is key. Learn about all sides through research and make a decision based on all the facts.