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  • The State of Elyria update has been released.

    I have my popcorn ready to read the wailing and whining about what SBS has done wrong this time. Anyway, interesting read, thanks for posting.
    mystichazeSedrynTyros
  • Developer seems frustrated that publishers don't understand CoE's appeal

    Dakeru said:
    Dakeru said:
    Dakeru said:
    SBS simply did not anticipate so much negative blowback from a missed timeline 
    The "negative blowback" wasn't because of a missed timeline but because of a timeline that was 100% impossible from the very beginning and people who had the nerve to point this out were being trash talked by Caspian while he would once more assure everyone that he knows better and the game will be released end of 2017.
    So the timeline doesn't matter and this is all about some people being put out that Caspian was rude to them... thought as much.
    Yeah that's the typical white knight way to spin it.
    The 2 logical ways are either that he really didn't know better or he blatantly lied.

    Considering that the timeline was absolutely impossible it's safe to assume he lied to rake in more money.
    If you think I am a white knight then you are delusional.
    I keep hearing that so it must be true.
    The only broken records here are you lot moaning about your hurt feelings.

    Troll on though. Don't disappoint the audience.
    mystichaze
  • Developer seems frustrated that publishers don't understand CoE's appeal

    Dakeru said:
    SBS simply did not anticipate so much negative blowback from a missed timeline 
    The "negative blowback" wasn't because of a missed timeline but because of a timeline that was 100% impossible from the very beginning and people who had the nerve to point this out were being trash talked by Caspian while he would once more assure everyone that he knows better and the game will be released end of 2017.
    So the timeline doesn't matter and this is all about some people being put out that Caspian was rude to them... thought as much.
    CantPlayHockeymystichazecraftseeker
  • Alright, Caspian, let's dance

    No you are saying their intentions are dishonest. You have nothing to base that on.
    No, I've actually said here (I think) and other places (I know) that in some cases it may not be a malicious dishonesty, but an unrealistic outlook.  However, as @Iselin mentioned above me, that's the reason there are traditional investors.  Those folks, generally, are much better equipped to spot the malicious dishonesty as well as the unrealistic dreamer.  Consumers don't have the expertise, the experience, nor the resources to evaluate the project on the same level.  And developers know that.
    As I have already said an investor is looking to make a profit, not simply whether the project is technically feasible. The return has to justify the risk. The investor will also look at a range of investments and pick the best ones. Even if they thought this project could turn a tidy profit they might be opting for other investments that return the same profit but at lower risk. I don't think you understand how financial decisions are made.

    The gamer is not basing his decision on an analysis of risk vs return, or at least their tolerance for risk is very high. You are comparing two different motivations/paradigms/goals and thus completely nonsensical.

    The gamer is knowingly donating a comparatively small amount of money for the chance to get what large publishers are not making. If he doesn't donate he get nothing. If he donates he might get something. It is that simple. For many it is worth it. If there are a minority of backers with unrealistic expectations the problem lies with them, not with the developer using the platform provided to them by others.

    Should there be a more structured 'investment' type of crowdfunding platform where gamers can get an actual profit... sure no harm in that but it is not up to developers to create this. They use the avenues available to them and right now it is Kickstarter. It is ridiculous to complain that they are using it.
    Gdemami
  • Alright, Caspian, let's dance

    No it won't.  Asking for 1M, raising 3M, delaying the game for at least a year and only "making progress " is not proof of competence.  
    1 million to 3 million is irrelevant. Complex projects always have delays, it is to be expected even when led by experienced projects managers. So yes the only factor that reflects on their competence is the actual game. The rest is just malicious slander.
    You keep using that word... yet it's blatantly obvious you have no idea what it means.  Slander is when you make false statements about someone (you are probably meaning LIBEL which is writing them).  Saying that the guy miscalculated his timeline, belittled those who challenged that timeline and delayed his project by at least a year is neither slander nor libel.  It's called FACT.  

    Ah, internet semantics. The holdout of everyone that has no point. No... you clearly have no idea what is being said. People get timelines wrong (even experienced project managers) and he posted an angry reply to a few internet trolls. While not desirable, none of that reflects on their competence to actually produce a game.

    So yes, harping on that they are incompetent because some people (maybe you included?) got an angry reply because of a few internet trolls is slander. Now you are upset and trying to damage their reputation. It is pretty clear to me what your agenda is.
    GdemamiTorval