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  • I Think I Made a Mistake 2 of 2

    Why you see my observations as arguments I will never know.  You said my observations were wrong.  How did I argue with you about that?  Why pick fights with me?

    One thing I've noticed is that the people who are against SC tend to be more civil then those who are for it.  Perhaps it says something about the type of people the game is attracting.  
    Yes there's a lot of that. It's a big reason why the community is viewed as rather toxic.
  • Citizencon Stream is Paywalled

    Don't know if the Relay article got posted 


    CIG has crowdfunded over $190 million to develop Star Citizen and untold millions more from subscribers.  CIG lives off of the goodwill, generosity, and excitement of the Star Citizen community. Poisoning the well by forcing the members of that community to throw them yet another $20 USD just so they can keep apprised of the game they helped finance is just absurd and frankly paints CIG as wildly out of touch.

  • Citizencon Stream is Paywalled

    Erillion said:
    sgel said:
    Erillion said:
    And on the next day everything will most likely be free to watch on YouTube and Twitch. 

    Have fun

    Which really isn't the same thing.
    As usual, you're defending anything CIG does.... even things as scammy as this.
    I laugh at people crying out loud about some "exclusive" news that will be available for free hours (minutes ?) after it was officially announced. Wake up people. This is the Internet age. The age of the smartphone. Of "Periscope" streaming and YouTube. There is no such thing as a Paywall anymore, with all the pirate mirror sites and all that. 

    Have fun

    Zyloh said the content will be available "eventually", not hours or minutes.

    If it was minutes they would just allow live streaming, if it was hours they would struggle getting people to pay for it, therefore we can logically assume it will be somewhat more than minutes or hours.

    What matters Erillion, and this is something you seem to forget because you're a subscriber getting this for free anyway, is that people want to be part of this, they've paid their money because it's meant to be open development and all the previous years have been open to all.
    Excusing this because you can just pirate it anyway is lame as hell, people want to support CIG officially but that doesn't mean they want to pay for the privilege of something that has always been about including everybody.

  • Citizencon Stream is Paywalled

    Erillion said:
    Ironically enough this was recently said by Chris Roberts

    I hate when things are deliberately locked behind a paywall

    What a fucking tool.

    As always you forget to mention context.

    He was talking about gameplay. And after launch the Persistent Universe to our current knowledge has no "things deliberately locked behind a paywall". 

    Have fun

    I like how you can't even make a comment without trying to have a dig at the poster, really shows your immaturity...

    You're really stretching your defense here because the context of that actual comment is irrelevant. Besides, his comment was about content, one could easily argue that the CitizenCon event is content for the backers. People in the subreddit are claiming just that by saying CIG have been cutting the content of their ATV shows so that they can monetise it at CitizenCon.

  • Citizencon Stream is Paywalled

    Yesterday CIG said that Around The Verse would be late because of a surprise they had for the backers.

    The surprise was that to watch this year's Citizencon stream you would need to pay $20, you can also pay another $10 for a digital 'goodie' bag which gives you access to spending yet more money on exclusive items.

    If you're a subscriber or if you have spent over $1000 you get to watch the stream for "free", if you've spent $900 then tough kitty. 


    Needless to say the forums and subreddit are royally pissed off about this.

    They also announced that people who have paid to visit the Citizencon event will also need to pay extra if they want to go to the accompanying Bar Citizen (another $20).

    Subreddit discussion https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/9bovd7/i_support_you_cig_but_i_will_not_be_buying_a/

    #== UPDATE ==#

    Chris has acquiesced to the wishes of his backers and walked all the way back from the original plan.

    After sleeping on this, I am going to chalk this one up to experience.

    We’re going to cut back on the live-streaming crew / costs but have both stages streamed for anyone with a Star Citizen user account.

    Star Citizen Content Creators are welcome to rebroadcast our stream live.

    If you would like to support the additional costs of streaming all the presentations, you can support the show by purchasing the CitizenCon digital goodies package (Imperators still get this as their October flair)