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  • State of Elyria update from Caspien (Jan 2018)

    cjmarsh said:
    Did Jeromy sell his property or mortgage it?  Has any Crowdfunding money been used to pay it off?  Do we know?  Do we care?
    Asked and answered:
    The land sale closed around this time last year which infused the company with another $350k - bringing us to a toal of $500k in starting capital.
    (edited to add that quote is from Dec 2016)

    So kudos to him.  He has much more skin in the game than many Kickstarters do.

    Holy shit slap.  That sounds like a... Compliment?

    Well I'll be damned.  I might actually be getting somewhere with some of you.  Told you he's the greatest developer ever to walk the earth.

    (obviously joking on that last one)

    Here I'll even delete my snarky comment about ya.
    I call it like I see it.  If you want to build credibility here I suggest less (IMHO) brown nosing on Discord and toning down the verbal assault with calling folks assholes or douche or putting down MMORPG.COM in general on the Discord.  Talk about issues and not other posters and we’ll get along fine.

    I don't agree with some of the stuff your saying but sure man.  I'll try to be more civil in discussion.  But to be honest this isn't exactly a place that's very welcoming to new posters.  And there is a very strong bias in this forum of negativity about this game, and a lot of it is unfounded.

    But again.  I'll try to do better at the snarky comments, and insults.  
    With all due respect. The negativity is founded. Most of us have been here for years. This site has seen everything that has come down the pipeline that anyone can even remotely call an MMO. And trust me, this site will call anything with a login screen an MMO.

    It has discussed development, monetization, game play, time tables....everything about everything about all the games that have come through here for years.

    The site has seen enough for all of us to have developed a pretty good idea what it takes for a studio to put out a game. We have seen what happens when corners are cut. We have seen what happens when there are layoffs. We have seen what happens when developers chose the wrong engine. Etc Etc. None of it is new and we aren't ignorant to what it means. These are all signs of trouble and have ended with canceled projects. The Repopulation, EQNext, Dominus, The list goes on.

    The ideas that "development has stabilized" after layoffs or that they can create their own substitute for "SpatialOS" are absurd.
    The negativity might be founded but it is never warranted. This site has certainly seen more about MMO mechanics and design debates then anywhere else I've seen on the web, even sites for game developers. But that doesn't mean it's okay to sling mud and throw dirt on people with personal character attacks. Just because someone has expertise in something doesn't make them a better person than those with a different area of expertise.
    What you call slinging mud, I call bringing to light what this developer is trying to hide. And what I see is a person who got in way over his head with 3.5M of other people's money and based on history and people discussing game development for years here, there is a very reasonable expectation that COE will be canceled. If what I was saying was untrue and unfounded, it would be slinging mud. But track records and history show the results of the path this project is on. It's not good.


    Gdemami
  • State of Elyria update from Caspien (Jan 2018)

    Did Jeromy sell his property or mortgage it?  Has any Crowdfunding money been used to pay it off?  Do we know?  Do we care?
    Asked and answered:
    The land sale closed around this time last year which infused the company with another $350k - bringing us to a toal of $500k in starting capital.
    (edited to add that quote is from Dec 2016)

    So kudos to him.  He has much more skin in the game than many Kickstarters do.

    Holy shit slap.  That sounds like a... Compliment?

    Well I'll be damned.  I might actually be getting somewhere with some of you.  Told you he's the greatest developer ever to walk the earth.

    (obviously joking on that last one)

    Here I'll even delete my snarky comment about ya.
    I call it like I see it.  If you want to build credibility here I suggest less (IMHO) brown nosing on Discord and toning down the verbal assault with calling folks assholes or douche or putting down MMORPG.COM in general on the Discord.  Talk about issues and not other posters and we’ll get along fine.

    I don't agree with some of the stuff your saying but sure man.  I'll try to be more civil in discussion.  But to be honest this isn't exactly a place that's very welcoming to new posters.  And there is a very strong bias in this forum of negativity about this game, and a lot of it is unfounded.

    But again.  I'll try to do better at the snarky comments, and insults.  
    With all due respect. The negativity is founded. Most of us have been here for years. This site has seen everything that has come down the pipeline that anyone can even remotely call an MMO. And trust me, this site will call anything with a login screen an MMO.

    It has discussed development, monetization, game play, time tables....everything about everything about all the games that have come through here for years.

    The site has seen enough for all of us to have developed a pretty good idea what it takes for a studio to put out a game. We have seen what happens when corners are cut. We have seen what happens when there are layoffs. We have seen what happens when developers chose the wrong engine. Etc Etc. None of it is new and we aren't ignorant to what it means. These are all signs of trouble and have ended with canceled projects. The Repopulation, EQNext, Dominus, The list goes on.

    The ideas that "development has stabilized" after layoffs or that they can create their own substitute for "SpatialOS" are absurd.
    KyleranJamesGoblinGdemami
  • Skyrim is from 2011. I think its time we stop comparing it to new games.

    Skyrim is better than Skyrim
    ScotMawneeMrMelGibson
  • State of the Studio

    lahnmir said:
    Gdemami said:
    frostymug said:
    Is there any progress that can be quantified by a layperson?
    That is the crux here, there isn't.

    They are in early development which means all the works goes towards backend - a part you, as a user don't see. The fact that the game is very different in design and thus in development terms does not help much either.

    And when you add lack of technical/management savvyness, you get plenty of fuel for trolling...therefore threads like this one.
    Right, because they already built so much "back end" on SpatialOS.........oh wait. No they didn't.
    Back end, isn't that the part they talk out of? Because it seems very much in use  ;)

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    And very well developed
    But it's not on SpacialOS
    JamesGoblin
  • State of the Studio

    Gdemami said:
    frostymug said:
    Is there any progress that can be quantified by a layperson?
    That is the crux here, there isn't.

    They are in early development which means all the works goes towards backend - a part you, as a user don't see. The fact that the game is very different in design and thus in development terms does not help much either.

    And when you add lack of technical/management savvyness, you get plenty of fuel for trolling...therefore threads like this one.
    Right, because they already built so much "back end" on SpatialOS.........oh wait. No they didn't.
    JamesGoblinGdemami