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Have they said when they plan to go to Early Access ?
Indeed linking multiple game/forum/twitter/twitch accounts etc is kind of like inviting stalkers to stalk you...lolKyleran said:...snip...If I do end up joining this game the backers will never know.
In a game like this I never create avatars related to this handle nor share most of my names with anyone unless a throwaway acct.
Yes lets get something clear just because some people claim cosmetics are p2w it doesn't invalidate the other stuff that is NOT cosmetics or make those not p2w.Lets get something clear.Asm0deus said:
History of MMO's.
Now yah, PW has evolved, into a toothless slug that holds no bite or value anymore.
Hell, in GW2, I have seen Skins (yes, just Cosmetic Skins) called P2W, because people did not want to spend money for them, and felt that if they called them P2W they would either drop the price or put them in the game for free.
So, yah.. that's what P2W means today.. it's devolved into a pointless turd floating down the river that angry Nerd-Ragers fling at anything they don't want to spend money on.
So, how does that bring us to CoE and P2W.. well.
Ok, if it's P2W, what do I win if I pay?
Seems to me, that if I spend enough, all I win is a burden.
Reminds me of PFO's Ryan Dancey!Kyleran said:...snip...Ugood said:This is everything.. because at one time, they weren't, just like all the other games in development.Slapshot1188 said:
Are most people now comfortable that he will deliver SOMETHING? Yes.
If I would fault CoE for anything, it would be not hiding behind a nice sanitized PR face, which seems to be what has drawn all the butthurt ire.
SBS / Caspian remind me so much of Aventurine / Tasos (?)
Ah no.The idea is still the same.. anything anyone does not want to spend money on, suddenly becomes P2W.Asm0deus said:Indeed any kind of cosmetic skins that's in such games is not p2w IMO either but then this game isn't offering that is it but things far far different.I laugh at P2W cries, I play GW2, where people call mount skins.. not mounts.. not mount upgrades.. just a purely cosmetic skin.. and they call it P2W.mystichaze said:This seems to be a constant where the Naysayers repeatedly claim (In every thread) that CoE is a pay-to-win game. I know I am opening a can of worms by making this post and setting myself up as a target. But I want to try to clarify the difference to those that are still learning about CoE if I can.
So yah.. I don't give those cries an iota of respect anymore. I'll see it.. I'll play.. and I alone will make a decision if I think it is P2W.
I am playing BDO right now, and, I have heard it's very P2W.. on my 3rd day of the trial.. and I am still am not sure where the Item Store is.. so it can't be that P2W.
In games like second life, Most of the Money in the game, was player bought, (and money in that game could go both ways), and no one cried P2W about it, mainly because real P2W games like Evony were going strong at the time.
So with CoE .. we shall see. If it turns out to be unacceptable to me. I'll just stop playing, let my character die in AFK oblivion, and move on to another game, not like I have to invest into the game if I am not having fun.
But P2W has been soo watered down these days, it's not even worth humoring it's usage anymore.