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LOL?Kyleran said:Let's dispense with the idea this plan is a good one, just a "necessary evil" in order to fund the game's development.Asm0deus said:Mendel said:mystichaze said:...snip...
It's fairly simple really.
They are allowing p2w pre launch because they want people that join at launch or post launch to enter a world that's already "alive" with established kingdoms, trades and a somewhat working if newish economy.
They are allowing pre launch p2w with the explanation or idea that otherwise if everyone started at zero at launch (no kings, barons, mayors, tradesmen, farmers or economy) or if there was a wipe then it would be like everyone would have to start from caveman era and it would take a long time to get shit rolling so to speak.
A far better idea would be to take CCPs approach in EVE seeding a portion of the world with a NPC kingdom with all the necessary resources to let new players to build up their skills and resources before venturing out to "claim their kingdom."
Would have been far more fair, interesting, and have an added bonus of a safe (or safer) kingdom for PVEers or even rogue elements who don't wish to join a kingdom to base from.
It even gives a defeated kingdom a place to regroup, lick their wounds, and prepare for their next campaign.
I understand why Caspian's approach is necessary, but quit with the BS spin he invented on how this is beneficial, its just a reach that isn't really valid .
I think perhaps you are feeling defensive. I only pointed out this partial quoting is causing the thread and the main issue to be confused. Generally speaking it's best to only ...snip... quotes, for space reasons, when they are getting out of hand. Dunno why you seem to think I am speaking to you when I haven't quoted anyone and there's plenty of people posting in this thread?CryptoCrow said:Nothing was cut out. That is exactly why i provided the full quote twice in this thread, which you must have missed. Then Mr. Bacon said i am manipulating it, rambled about SERVERS although no one ever but him mentioned servers and it is the full quote from Chris Roberts. Hence my confusion.Asm0deus said:Ahh the quoting wars...lol
The thing with quoting is that it usually never a good idea to quote only part of a sentence or even quote one whole sentence as it can be used to manipulate the meaning or intent of the communication to something else, and this can be done easily even unintentionally.
" we have a kinda different kind of server design now that could potentially have thousands of players all in the same sort of area " - Chris Roberts
means something different than:" have thousands of players all in the same sort of area " - Chris Roberts
Those simple two words "could potentially" changes much. That's not even taking into account the context of the rest that has been cut out.
Would you not agree that to be correct?
While ESO is an amazing MMO, I dislike both not having the trinity and also dislike the level scaling throughout the entire (non-instanced) world. Of both I dislike the latter more. There is something to be said about character progression and the perks of such. Scaling all levels to the nearly the same ruins that. And frankly the Champion Point system seems minuscule or slow at distinguishing said progression. I am a new CP 300 now. While some Vet dungeons are easier, many are near impossible for me. While ESO offers many options to keep you in the game, the nuts and bolts sense of progression -like level 1-10, mean more to me than the tiny amount of difference a Champion level seems to gains me.