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Original Alterac Valley with all the wartsSedrynTyros said:Well, to be fair, it's not as simple as Classic is Classic is it? Is Classic v1.1 or v1.12 ... or maybe v1.5? That's what Blizzard needs to figure out and I think that's the underlying point Susie was trying to make.GeezerGamer said:Which is the exact long road they took that put them in this place where players want Classic WoW. Classic WoW was not perfect and many hours sucked. But it worked for me and many others.SBFord said:You should go take a look at the official classic forums because the opinion on what "classic" represents is huge. That's why they're soliciting opinions and why it's going to take awhile for anything to happen.GeezerGamer said:Well. it's either Classic or it's not. If "getting it right" means fixing the bugs that existed, fine. Otherwise, if they start adding QOL features, then it's not really Classic. It's "Classic-Like" and then they aren't "getting it right"SBFord said:@thunderC -- they've already said that the legendary system such as is in Legion is going away. YAY!
@geezergamer There's no way that Classic and BfA will come out at the same time. I'd say BfA will be the focus of PR and will come out first followed by Classic at least 6 months, if not a year, later. They ARE working on it as the jobs listings have proven, but it's not the focus for the closest WoW release despite some folks' hopes. Their goal with Classic is to "get it right" and they're collecting fan input because the range of what people want from Classic is huge. Some want new models. Some don't. Some want transmog. Some don't.
They can give BFA to everyone who wants all the new QOL features and functions and give Classic to those who want to re-play their nostalgic WoW (like me) from Vanilla. EFFING with that formula is what got them where they are now and probably won't work as well for either crowd.
Trying to find a happy medium in Classic is going to leave no one happy. QOL seekers will go back to BFA, and Classic WoW will go back to whatever they were doing up to this point.
Trying to please everyone? It's not gonna happen. They will fall flat on their face if they compromise on this. I am not reading that whole thread, but if they start doing all that, they'll end up with a fork and not Classic.
I hope I am wrong.
Perhaps Blizzard decides to use v1.12 as a baseline but implements the original version of Alterac Valley? Alterac Valley is just one example of something that change significantly during the life span of vanilla WoW. So which version of Alterac Valley do they put in Classic? Pre 1.5? Post 1.5? Perhaps both? I guess we'll find out eventually.
Thanks MaxMaxBacon said:Wait I think there is a console command: r_DisplayInfo 3laserit said:I won't use secondary appsMaxBacon said:No, use external apps that share those details in-game, the most superficial one is FRAPs not fully sure if it may conflict, some of them do.laserit said:As far as the article goes...
Not posting his computer specs is just bad journalism.
For those in the know, is there a command in game to show the framerate?
They are known to cause stutters in flight sims.
To open console is the ` key (left of 1, above Tab).
Lesson #1SEANMCAD said:I look at goverment choices from a cause and effect standpoint most of the time.Zegaloth said:Nope.I am not making a correlation between virtual violence and real violence. Nor am I personally making a moral statement. I am only making an observation that appears to me to be ironic.
YOU and others are the ones who have a moral investment in this subject, I do not. I have nothing more than a cause and effect view on this subject (meaning the question of should goverment regulate). My view on goverment roles is ALWAYS ...hyper A-moral. I look at it purely from a cause and effect standpoint, my positions are purely cause and effect. I think the goverment has no business involved in morality chocies.
maybe that will clear things up a bit
Sometimes the cause and effect works with conventional 'morality' but that is not why I support an idea.
For example, I think if we have a centralized authority making design choices on games that it will in the long run kill creativity and variety of game design which is why I think we should be very careful what we decide to regulate. I also think a precedent will be created. such that if something like the choice of how to spend $10 on an entertainment product becomes regulated then everything will become regulated. I feel that if I wanted to start a game, I would be buried in red tape and not able to make creative choices becasue of who make be in authority.
CAUSE and EFFECT.
not a moral judgement.
others (not me) are faced with the moral problem becasuse they think games should be regulated from a MORAL stance instead of a cause an effect stance. Thus THEY have the burded of explaining to themselves and others why one thing (selling lootboxes) is an outrage morally but a murder simulator is not.
I dont have that burden