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I know que time really sucked for alliance on most servers back in the day. I really miss the rivalries that existed before cross realm.Torval said:Do they add "cross realm battleground" which was a 1.12 feature as well, but more in line with the design philosophy of 2.x? They probably shouldn't even though I don't care one way or another. Or more accurately, I think it would be easy good will if they did exclude it.SedrynTyros said:Well, to be fair, it's not as simple as Classic is Classic is it? Is Classic v1.1 or v1.12 ... or maybe v1.5? That's what Blizzard needs to figure out and I think that's the underlying point Susie was trying to make.GeezerGamer said:Which is the exact long road they took that put them in this place where players want Classic WoW. Classic WoW was not perfect and many hours sucked. But it worked for me and many others.SBFord said:You should go take a look at the official classic forums because the opinion on what "classic" represents is huge. That's why they're soliciting opinions and why it's going to take awhile for anything to happen.GeezerGamer said:Well. it's either Classic or it's not. If "getting it right" means fixing the bugs that existed, fine. Otherwise, if they start adding QOL features, then it's not really Classic. It's "Classic-Like" and then they aren't "getting it right"SBFord said:@thunderC -- they've already said that the legendary system such as is in Legion is going away. YAY!
@geezergamer There's no way that Classic and BfA will come out at the same time. I'd say BfA will be the focus of PR and will come out first followed by Classic at least 6 months, if not a year, later. They ARE working on it as the jobs listings have proven, but it's not the focus for the closest WoW release despite some folks' hopes. Their goal with Classic is to "get it right" and they're collecting fan input because the range of what people want from Classic is huge. Some want new models. Some don't. Some want transmog. Some don't.
They can give BFA to everyone who wants all the new QOL features and functions and give Classic to those who want to re-play their nostalgic WoW (like me) from Vanilla. EFFING with that formula is what got them where they are now and probably won't work as well for either crowd.
Trying to find a happy medium in Classic is going to leave no one happy. QOL seekers will go back to BFA, and Classic WoW will go back to whatever they were doing up to this point.
Trying to please everyone? It's not gonna happen. They will fall flat on their face if they compromise on this. I am not reading that whole thread, but if they start doing all that, they'll end up with a fork and not Classic.
I hope I am wrong.
Perhaps Blizzard decides to use v1.12 as a baseline but implements the original version of Alterac Valley? Alterac Valley is just one example of something that change significantly during the life span of vanilla WoW. So which version of Alterac Valley do they put in Classic? Pre 1.5? Post 1.5? Perhaps both? I guess we'll find out eventually.
I feel like there are a lot of intangible pieces they need to put in place in order to pull this off. Do a stinker like they did with the D1 Anniversary event and they will never live it down.
After reading some of the posts in those discussions I hope some people aren't deliberately trying to sabotage the project.
I don't know if it will help you, but I had a problem with black screens and the game crashing every time it booted and switched to fullscreen. Turned out I had to manually set my video resolution.Spiraldeath said:I avoid MMORPG like the plague if I want credible unbiased SC debate or news.TalulaRose said:Erillion, MaxBacon, Orinori
Take away these 3 and literally no one else defends SC at this point.
I have dropped more $$$ then I tell my missus in SC and if the game never eventuates i am not going to be happy but I knew the risk when I backed.
The reason why 3.0 was so hyped too, is the first time every backer with Alpha access is getting access so there is bound to be anticipation.
I can't even play 3.0, I get a black screen every-time or it crashes so I submit my crash report, we are Alpha testers and as such if we find a bug good because that what we are supposed to be finding. Do i get to fly around in my sexy ships no did I help contribute to testing and improvement yes.
Often I think many of the haters hate because they don't have the funds to back and the little green monster comes out.
Because if you haven't backed why so much hate what have you got to be angry for, it's like hating on a new fountain that is to be installed in a park in China that you have no plans to ever visit but just thought you had the need to tell the world you hate that fucking fountain with a passion.
Well you know those politician guys are really working hard.Horusra said:laserit said:I raised four children of my own. I care about them, I care about their friends, I care about my neighbors, I care about the society I live in.Horusra said:If you really cared about the kids you would ban them from gaming and force the play60 on them. Protecting 1% from gambling is pretty far down the list of possible things, but hey it fits the narrative you want to push.laserit said:We sure don't want the government stepping on any corporate toes. They should be free to make money with any concoction they can come up with, rules be damned.NorseGod said:Inviting the government into our lives. What could go wrong? Oh, and the children!Luiden said:Yes, I said something I thought I would never say but it's quite clear that game development companies no longer have the ability to focus on creating quality games. Over the past 5 years the focus has changed from creating entertainment that sells to creating revenue schemes targeting consumers and not delivering on product. Before you flame take a look at the following ideas for regulation:
1. Games advertised as 'Early Access' and accept money in exchange for allowing a gamer to play the game before release must publicly state a release date. If that date is not met or changed at any time then the game company must offer a full refund to the gamer at the gamers request.
2. Games implementing loot boxes must publicly post the odds of winning each item in the item pool. Loot boxes will be classified as gambling and will be taxed as such, all revenue generated from loot boxes must be reported for tax purposes. All items which gamers are gambling for must be public knowledge including an item description and abilities of the item. Game companies that update or change item abilities after being won in the loot box gambling system must offer a refund to the gamer if requested.
3. Every non consumable item (mounts, clothing, weapons) available for purchase through an online cash shop must include a target expiration date. If a game is shutdown by the gaming company before the expiration date of item purchased then the game company is responsible to reimburse the gamer for the item purchased.
4. Purchasing made through online shops or any other avenue must be approved by a consenting adult. Gross purchases made without adult approval is subject to 100% refund upon request. The game company must show that a consenting adult has made the purchase.
These are just some starting ideas but I think you get the picture as to why we now need something like this. Gamers are severely getting ripped off across all types of games and I hate to say it but we now need some kind of consumer protection.
This is an example of how free markets work. Don't play.
You guys begged for F2P and you got it.
Imagine a football game with no rules. You know everyone is going to be nice and play fair.
And the children.... Fuck the children, they're too small and inexperienced to fight back anyway.
The only Free Market is the Black Market. How do you think they play? You know when that guy says his Rolex's are genuine , you can take his word for it.
What a wonderful world it would be
Have you ever traveled? Ever been to places where you have to put bars on every window? Where you have to watch it when you shut your car door because there will be a little six year old trying to catch the door before it completely closes. Places where you have to pay neighborhood gangs protection money every month so your house doesn't get robbed?
I've been to places like that and it's a pretty fucking eye opening experience. Societies where no one gives a fuck about anybody but themselves. Societies that have very little rules and regulations.
Now the wife says it's dinner time so I'll have to finish later.
So we are stopping the bars on the windows by going after the problem that effects the least amount of children while ignoring the much more dangerous and horrible things that happen to them. Sounds great to have the government waste time on that instead of any other issue that actually screws a higher percentage of kids over a situation that parents should be monitoring what their kids are doing....but hey some parents just want the government to raise their kids so they do not have the take the blame for their kids crappy behavior.
Once again protect the kids and ban gaming it is shown to have effects on attention, social interaction disorders, physical health problems, and arthritis. So get the government on monitoring our playing time and limiting people.