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Spot on and something a lot of crowdfunding haters seem to forget, you are not buying a product. Couldn't agree more and with this mindset I haven't made ONE donation where I have felt robbed and I've made dozens. Well okay, The Repopulation comes close.But by the nature of kickstarter you are essentially agreeing to donate the money. You are paying money for someone to make a product, not buying a product.Slapshot1188 said:I don’t want to turn this into a refund thread. But my perspective is that the agreement has 2 sides. The customer pays money and agrees to no refund. The company agrees to deliver a specific product by a particular time. If the product changes significantly or the timeline (if it’s sold as 18 months and turns out to be 42 months for instance) then IMHO the company hasn’t lived up to their end of the agreement. One side can not unilaterally change an agreement. That’s not expecting special treatment. That’s just basic fairness to me.I never feel sorry for consumers who expect special treatment. You bought something that said no refund. If you weren't 100% sure about spending the money you shouldn't of done it. Maybe it's from working in sales for years, but I just don't have sympathy for this sort of thing.
If you REALLY want your money back, like I said in other threads, sell it on a third party site.
IMO looking at kickstarter as preordering the game is totally missing the whole concept of what kickstarter is. It was never a place that advertised itself as a place to buy shit. Or even a place used to fully fund anything. It is used to "kickstart" someone's company and/or product.
I would understand people screaming unethical if they pocketed the money, canceled the project 6 months later. Or if they sat there and said "we guarantee you this product no later than". They gave you an estimated delivery date. Even in the FAQ they something to the effect of "right now we are aiming for December 2017". That's not exactly guaranteeing your product. They missed it. They're still using the money to make the game. If you didn't know what you were getting into, when you pledged that money, then that's on YOU for not doing thorough research on what kickstarter is.
This game is made for you. The preparations, the hunt, the chase, the kill. Fights can easily last 15 minutes or more with different phases, monsters fleeing or covering themselves in mud for extra protection for instance.Sovrath said:
If MMOs had this kind of TTK - I would quit all of them.
Seriously - to me anything that takes even more than 45sec to kill in a MMO - my annoyance factor just keeps going up.
I know some people are ok with this and some even enjoy long drawn out fights - and that's awesome for them - but for the rest of us who don't like long TTK, yeah - no thanks.
I know that in monster hunter - the design is as noted - for fights to lead to progression of game and more adventure - I just still couldn't get over the TTK. It's just not for me.
Yeah, I'm one of those who love long fights. Loved fighting BAMS in Tera solo with my lancer.
I want a fight to mean something. To me, anything that's "quick" doesn't really mean anything.
I'll add that I like fighting large hordes of mobs in Black Desert as there is a certain fun to be had mowing down large groups all at once. I am so buying this game when it releases on PC.
Thanks for proving my point.If you expect me to feel sorry for shitting on people that spread misinformation, and having strong opinions, while having 0 knowledge? Sorry. Go write your bullshit theories, and retarded opinions in your diary if you don't want to be called out for having a shitty opinion.lahnmir said:Good for you, knowing so much more then everybody else around these parts. A shame you forgot how to be a decent human being, go insult people that might be impressed by your loudmouthing somewhere else, you won't find them here.It's quite funny how a lot of you don't know shit about this game, nothing about owning your own company, nothing about the tech industry in general, but seem to have extremely strong opinions. It's obvious you don't read updates, you don't talk to the devs, you have 0 understanding of a lot of the systems, and the work that's been accomplished. Yet your so positive this game is gonna fail lol. God, what a bunch of fucking idiots.
I hope this game succeeds, I don't wish ill fortune on anyone. It will be despite its "fans" though, not because of them.
Good for you, knowing so much more then everybody else around these parts. A shame you forgot how to be a decent human being, go insult people that might be impressed by your loudmouthing somewhere else, you won't find them here.It's quite funny how a lot of you don't know shit about this game, nothing about owning your own company, nothing about the tech industry in general, but seem to have extremely strong opinions. It's obvious you don't read updates, you don't talk to the devs, you have 0 understanding of a lot of the systems, and the work that's been accomplished. Yet your so positive this game is gonna fail lol. God, what a bunch of fucking idiots.
NO! They all suck, it is all terrible! Those horrible companies, those shallow games, nothing is wrong with a certain subgroup of consumers, NOTHING!postlarval said:There are many MMOs "these days" that don't suck.