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i got a Question..... whats up with Anakin offering Padme to rule the galaxy? then in Episode 5 he offers luke to rule the galaxy... whats with him and offer people (family members) to rule the galaxy? any one want to get this one?
i just got done watching 4 .5 and 6.. and... i dont wonder stand this.. and why he does it..
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Nasedoo: You said traders would get a revamp under my supervision.
Darth Lord Blixtev: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
However, Aankin's relatives were wise to his cunning scheme.
They knew all too well that a mere two years into their Ruling Tenure, Anakin would cunningly reform the existing dictatorship into the New Galactic Empire.
And of course their Ruling experience would be changed beyond recognition.
Proud Master CH -
Sorry,
Proud FORMER Master CH...
my toon was untimely converted into something more Star Warsy
Nasedoo: You said traders would get a revamp under my supervision.
Darth Lord Blixtev: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
He may have been no good with paperwork, payrolls, insurance etc so thought he'd get someone from the family in to help in an admin capacity.
It all makes sense, family are cheap, they're more obligated than the average employee and it's tougher to pull a sickday when you work for your pops.
he actualy wanted them to rule alongside him. even though he turned evil, he wanted his family close.
now that i stated the real reason, i will be sarcastic.
he offered it to them, but since interdependancy isn't "smedsy" or "wowish" they refused.
he actualy wanted them to rule alongside him. even though he turned evil, he wanted his family close.
now that i stated the real reason, i will be sarcastic.
he offered it to them, but since interdependancy isn't "smedsy" or "wowish" they refused.
lol... maybe because family but there has to be more then that
Nasedoo: You said traders would get a revamp under my supervision.
Darth Lord Blixtev: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
"The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
Well when his mother got killed by the sand people... was the first time I remember in the films that he went off his rocker. I think at some level the character was afraid of being alone.. even tho he slaughtered people ruthlessly... odd but /shrug
My question is this...
In episode 6 when Luke and Leia are talking. He asks her if she remembers her mother... she replies:
"She was very beautiful but she did when I was very young"
Or something close to that
Luke says:
"I have no memory of my mother"
Well in EP3 she died giving birth...
So I guess Leia had some pretty good recall...
Or if she supposed to be talking about Jimmy Smits (in movie) wife..
But I swear she said her "real" mother... that just bothered me after I saw the film and I really dunno why... with all the other odd things. That one just gnaws at me
This was as disturbing to me:
I'm calling "reach" on this one George. To this very day this is why I can never trust a Jedi.
I realize I said I quit. I never said it was forever
Early on in Empire Strikes Back
- Darth Vader: What is thy bidding, my master?
- Emperor:
- Darth Vader: How is that possible?
- Emperor Palpatine: Search your feelings. You know it to be true. He could destroy us.
- Darth Vader: He is just a boy. Obi-Wan can no longer help him.
- Emperor Palpatine: The Force is strong with him. The son of Skywalker must not become a Jedi.
- Darth Vader: If he could be turned, he would become a powerful ally...
- Emperor Palpatine: Yes. He would be a great asset. Can it be done?
- Darth Vader: He will join us, or die, my master.
and then later on:There is a great disturbance in the Force. We have a new enemy: the
Rebel youth who destroyed the Death Star. The offspring of Anakin
Skywalker.
destiny. Join me, and together we shall rule the galaxy as father and
son. Come with me. It is the only way.
...which caused Vader to form a plan to try to recruit Luke to destroy the Emperor and create a new "two Sith" Master and Apprentice?
I realize I said I quit. I never said it was forever
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Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me.
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I realize I said I quit. I never said it was forever
You're evil....truly.
I realize I said I quit. I never said it was forever
/truestory
I once had a choice between a job as a programmer with 65k salary plus .5% of corporate profits for a company that traded futures with no possibility of ever being CIO or a job with a startup firm for 65k and 50,000 shares of stock options AND the position of CIO.
Which did I choose? The one with the power of course. Did I get screwed in the long run? OH YEAH. The futures trading company made 35 million profit the first year in question and 49 million the second. You do the math! Inside of two years at the other company, there was a coup that deposed the CEO and rendered me powerless, I was diagnosed with clinical depression and put on Zoloft, and ended up resigning because the company was in utter chaos.
Power is a horrible temptation people. RUNNNNNN.
I realize I said I quit. I never said it was forever
When he offered to rule the Galaxy with Padme I beleive there was still some "Anakin" inside him. It was more an offer to right the wrongs done by the Emperor then it was to rule with the dark side. At that time Vader probably thought he could use the dark side as a tool.
As for offering it too Luke. Vader knew all to well by then he could never kill the Emperor. Before his transformation into the mechanical Vader he could have slayed the Emperor with ease. But with the cybernetics he couldnt do it. The Emperor probably saw the injuries as the perfect way to control Vader. Which is why Vader couldnt use lightning.
But it mainly falls to the order of the Sith. When a leader becomes weak he or she is eliminated.
Kai
I'm not totally disagreeing with you, but the Emperor was a pretty bad dude. He handled Yoda and TOYED with Mace Windu. I think Anakin might have THOUGHT he could handle the Emperor before the "torso Lite-Brite" but IMO I think the Emperor had a better than even chance of winning.
I think the transformation into the mechanical Vader made Anakin reach his full potential due to the strength of his hatred, but by that point he was limited by the machinery that surrounded him, like you said.
I realize I said I quit. I never said it was forever
Maybe they had ran out of ideas for the episodes 1,2 and 3.
Let's be realistic, they aren't by far as good as the old ones (can I use the word crap when describing the new films?). Less acting, worse story, more fx (and that damned Jar jar).
Plus he still doesn't realize he's gay.
I'm not totally disagreeing with you, but the Emperor was a pretty bad dude. He handled Yoda and TOYED with Mace Windu. I think Anakin might have THOUGHT he could handle the Emperor before the "torso Lite-Brite" but IMO I think the Emperor had a better than even chance of winning.
I think the transformation into the mechanical Vader made Anakin reach his full potential due to the strength of his hatred, but by that point he was limited by the machinery that surrounded him, like you said.
Dont want to disagree with you but....
Yoda was overconfident when he first entered the Emperor's chamber. That was where he made his mistake. If he had went in on the side of caution then he could have defeated the Emperor.
Mace almost killed the Emperor. In fact the Emperor had to have the help of Anakin to distract Mace. If Anakin hadnt entered the room, Mace would have captured or killed the Emperor. Once Mace was distracted, the Emperor was able to twist Mace's idea of capturing to killing him so Anakin would be forced to lend a hand and his fall to the darkside would begin.
Anakin hadnt turned fully to the darkside yet even after he killed Mace or the jedi at the temple. There was still some "light" left in him even on Musty. His transformation wasnt complete until after the overhaul into the cybernetic Vader and he was told he had killed Padme. IMO. Quite possibly if Padme had taken his offer he might have been turned back to the light by her and Obi Wan. But that is a discussion for another day.
Read The Rise of Darth Vader. Its a canon novel. It explains alot about Vader that most didnt know before. Quite an intriging read. Especially about the cybernetics Vader was equipped with. How it limited his movement and forced him to change his entire saber fighting style from a flowing system to a 4 point system. And the materials used made him vulnerable to more then just lightning.
Kai