I think mmorpg.com does a great job with the rating system. If they listed the most popular games instead of the best rated there would either just be a bunch of free mmorpg's at the top with tons of dead accounts, or their would be only Japanese/chinese games which have many more subscribers then WoW.
Originally posted by mhex I like to play games for what they have to offer. Not for what the "collective wetdream" that sci-fi players with an overactive imagination experience. I see the gave for what it is, with it's limitations. I don't try to use my imagination to build a better game out of what's being offered, because that's daydreaming, that's not reality. It takes more than simply a large community with a great imagination + a boring game that is of a "sandbox" design to be good in my book. The game itself actually has to be excellent. Yet that's not the case with EO. It's a very average game that has a great community and a sandbox design. Fact of the matter is, the gameplay in EO is rather poor overall. And that's how you judge a game, by it's gameplay. EO is boring, it's repetitive, there's no greatness in the the game. The end goal is either to acquire more stuff (better ships or more ISKs). There's no "infinite possibilities" here, because the game is limited by it's gameplay. plus the pvp is boring and it sucks.. it's hardly pvp at all.. just imo tho
An MMORPG is an MMORPG.
Eve is a virtual world.
Its not there to entertain you, it's an operating system to enter the sandbox.
Whether it's "repetative" or meditative is a matter of personal taste.
It's for nerdy sci-fi types who want to live a virtual space life.
I can join a 0.0 mining op and mine for 3-4 hours, while chatting and sipping my tea, it doesn't bore me at all, in fact I'm usually listening to the trance channel and in a meditative state.
So either love it or hate it, there IS nothing like it.
Comparing Eve to WoW is like comparing WoW to a Flight Simulator.
It's a completely different piece of software. You wouldn't load up a flight sim and then complain that its boring flying around for hours.
"I dont mean to flame eve , but congratz to this site , puting a 30 000 player game in front of guildwars that as 2 million copys sold."
"having eve for so long in number 1 , with only 30 000 people playing it"
Neoteo, omg did you read any of this posts???
EVE have 170k subscribers paing fees.(this is not a free game)
It got a record of 30k players online on same server "tranquility" "this game dosnt have instances to sustain lag, EVE have a super computer on top 500 super computers, no other game company have one.
Wath we are "selebrating" here is this great acomplishment.
Originally posted by neoteo 30 000 ? i dont mean to flame eve , but congratz to this site , puting a 30 000 player game in front of guildwars that as 2 million copys sold. not sarcasm , its true eve is the most complex mmo i ever tried , must have the best ratings for that
It is not 30,000 players. It was 30k concurrent players on the server. Eve has around 170k subscribers.
A game that sells many copies is most likely a good game and very popular. However, just because a game doesn't sell well doesn't mean it's not a good game. For example, how many of you heard of a game called Dangerous Waters? Probably not a lot. But does that mean it's a crap game? Nope. But it IS an ultra-realistic naval combat simulation game and will obviously not appeal to everyone, especially not the mainstream crowd. You spend most of your time staring at dials, panels, and maps, and combat is limited to firing a weapon at a confirmed target and waiting a few minutes for the torpedo/missile to reach your target and then see if it detonated or not. Definitely not for those who would prefer lots of action.
EVE Online is the same way. Just because YOU don't like it, and just because it sold less copies than insert random MMORPG, it doesn't mean it's a crap game.
I like my games immersive, EVE wasn't very immersive to me. It just felt like a space fighter with an mmo grind twist to it. As for the 30k numbers congratulations but noone really cares. I just can't wait for the 3rd gen of mmo's so we will stop getting so many wow and eve threads. We will proberly just get war and sto threads lol
Originally posted by Synyster777 I like my games immersive, EVE wasn't very immersive to me. It just felt like a space fighter with an mmo grind twist to it. As for the 30k numbers congratulations but noone really cares. I just can't wait for the 3rd gen of mmo's so we will stop getting so many wow and eve threads. We will proberly just get war and sto threads lol
Obviously ppl care or they wouldnt be posting about it.
Originally posted by gmmonkey Originally posted by Synyster777 I like my games immersive, EVE wasn't very immersive to me. It just felt like a space fighter with an mmo grind twist to it. As for the 30k numbers congratulations but noone really cares. I just can't wait for the 3rd gen of mmo's so we will stop getting so many wow and eve threads. We will proberly just get war and sto threads lol
Obviously ppl care or they wouldnt be posting about it.
You know how when people say man no one turned up at the concert or no one came to the movies, it's a figure of speech meaning not many people give/gave a shit I didn't literally mean no one. I also used the word *really* which was meant to symbolise the fact more people want to flame about or gloat about EVE in these forums then actually really care for it.
Originally posted by Squitty I think mmorpg.com does a great job with the rating system. If they listed the most popular games instead of the best rated there would either just be a bunch of free mmorpg's at the top with tons of dead accounts, or their would be only Japanese/chinese games which have many more subscribers then WoW.
thats incorrect. its a known rumor that there are supposed to be many Chinese mmo's with more subscribers then WoW. this is all bull really. people mix up Subscribers with (free) accounts created
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Eve is a virtual world.
Its not there to entertain you, it's an operating system to enter the sandbox.
Whether it's "repetative" or meditative is a matter of personal taste.
It's for nerdy sci-fi types who want to live a virtual space life.
I can join a 0.0 mining op and mine for 3-4 hours, while chatting and
sipping my tea, it doesn't bore me at all, in fact I'm usually
listening to the trance channel and in a meditative state.
So either love it or hate it, there IS nothing like it.
Comparing Eve to WoW is like comparing WoW to a Flight Simulator.
It's a completely different piece of software. You wouldn't load up a
flight sim and then complain that its boring flying around for hours.
But that's exactly what people do in Eve.
"I dont mean to flame eve , but congratz to this site , puting a 30 000 player game in front of guildwars that as 2 million copys sold."
"having eve for so long in number 1 , with only 30 000 people playing it"
Neoteo, omg did you read any of this posts???
EVE have 170k subscribers paing fees.(this is not a free game)
It got a record of 30k players online on same server "tranquility" "this game dosnt have instances to sustain lag, EVE have a super computer on top 500 super computers, no other game company have one.
Wath we are "selebrating" here is this great acomplishment.
A game that sells many copies is most likely a good game and very popular. However, just because a game doesn't sell well doesn't mean it's not a good game. For example, how many of you heard of a game called Dangerous Waters? Probably not a lot. But does that mean it's a crap game? Nope. But it IS an ultra-realistic naval combat simulation game and will obviously not appeal to everyone, especially not the mainstream crowd. You spend most of your time staring at dials, panels, and maps, and combat is limited to firing a weapon at a confirmed target and waiting a few minutes for the torpedo/missile to reach your target and then see if it detonated or not. Definitely not for those who would prefer lots of action.
EVE Online is the same way. Just because YOU don't like it, and just because it sold less copies than insert random MMORPG, it doesn't mean it's a crap game.
Hm, i wonder what the "IQ less then a doorknob" to "above average IQ" ratio is on the mmo market. Something like 233 to 1 i bet.
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You know how when people say man no one turned up at the concert or no one came to the movies, it's a figure of speech meaning not many people give/gave a shit I didn't literally mean no one. I also used the word *really* which was meant to symbolise the fact more people want to flame about or gloat about EVE in these forums then actually really care for it.
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I think EVE Online will break 31,000 this weekend.
I will keep you all updated if they do.