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What a joke.
UltraPure
Member Posts: 18
Todays mmo's are getting pretty bad. Could you imaging if your car ran like a game after you just bought it. This leads to my little troubles today.
While waiting on somethign new, I decided to play FFXi for something to do. Went and got it to save the download time.
Starting with the installation of the launcher to the game took most all the afternoon. The updates were unbeilivable. Finally got thought it only to have to patch again.
Kool, Finally got it installed. Some 4 hours after patches.
Wen tto play and BAMM Network Error. Looked another few hours for help in solving the problem, but no luck.
Now all this is kool, Bad choice of game for me or just bad carma day. So i decided to unsintall it.
This is where I really got pissed off. It is (Because I am still uninstalling where I type this) still uninstalling after 20 min.
Yeah, try to find out where to cancel your account. That takes a few also.
Why am I posting this. Easy. The manufactures of todays games are taking advantage of us. They put out games that are broke, Take forevever to get installed, patched and signed up for only to find out that the game is buggy, laggy, down too much and just plain bad in some cases.
We should be demanding our money back when the servers go down too much. We should flood there e-mail when they apply patches that are either too big or just screw up the game.
Just think, Is there any other item in your life where you would tolerate this.
BTW, FFXI is only one of the many I have looked at this month. I always try the new games and beta's, or game I havent tried, to catch the next big game or just have fun with some old ones.
I would have posted this under a review, but my rating here is not high enough. I don't post enough to get it up.
Comments
Sorry about the spelling on my last post. Can't really type when pissed.
Oh, and Final Fantasy XI has been out for 4 years now.
The game takes up maybe 15 Gigabytes, which is probably why it took a while to uninstall.
Did you check the website to see if the servers were actually down? They update every 5 minutes, and the servers are rarely down.
Also, you may want to defragment/ optimize your computer. If you're installing a MMORPG each month, your computer is probably suffering the effects.
As for the four hours of patching, what can I say? The game is alive, and has a lot of new content every few months. The patch server doesn't make you download your files over again; it compares each file to the newest version and fills in the blanks. So all of the 4 hours was new content, not old content patched over and over again.
How does 4 hours of patching over 4 years indicate that developers don't respect the community?
I recently installed it on my laptop. Took about 30 minutes to actually install the game and expansions.
Took 25 minutes to update the launcher.
an hour and a half for the game itself.
Your computer sucks.
Atleast try to understand that this was your computers problem not FFXI's Telaki is right with this one that is exactly what it sounds like.
Its a good job you cant review otherwise it would have just been another guy who hadnt played the game trying to rate it and rating it badly due to his own malfunction.
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Waiting for:
Lost Ark
New World
"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
Iit appears that few actually read the post. It's not a stab at the Game Play of FFXI. Its that the current state of most MMO's. I purchased FFXI because I have friends that play it and I trust them when they tell me its fun and I bet the graphics are great.
If you are a Full Time gammer, One that doesnt work or spends all there free time stuck in a game, Then maybe for you, a hour patch is kool. For the rest of us, we only get a few hours a week. We have real jobs, Families and friends we don't have to type to.
About FFXI, The patch files themselves based on the CD's i just purchased, took 2.5 hours. Period. You cant make that faster unless you have a faster internet connection. And I am on a 1.5 DSL. Which is not perfect, but plenty fast.
To be fair to all games, Most games will either not run or run poorly on just about any Graphics Card except for the newest ATI or nVidia. So little johny geting his first Dell for school cant even play most of the MMO's today.
The problem is our fault. We accept huge patches, We accept the extreme machine requirements. We love our reflective waters and light perfect shadows. Although this is good for viewing and playing, how many players can spend unlitmited amount of time and money to play a game.
Another example, DAOC. I love the game, But when TOA came out. The lag was so bad on an average machine that, for our guild and alliance, we had to upgrade our machines. Many could not afford to spend the extra money. So, they had to continue to play classic and SI. While the ones that could do the Masters Levels dominated RVR.
Blah Blah Blah ......
I disabled my AV and FW to check the connection . It appears to be a uPNP issue since we block uPnP to prevent abuse.
My computer doesn't suck Trust me. If you realy want to know, i will send you my sysinfo / dxdiag.xml. I have been playing mmo's Since they first come out. I have max toons on many of them. Although my all time favorite is DAOC. I have been in computer hardware and software for 23 years. Including developing REAL games. Casino slot machines.
Another repsone that has no idea about my pc. But Here, Gauge for yourself.
Intel P4 3200 Dual Core
2 GB DDR-2 Memory
2 160gb Raid (performance)
nVidia PCI Express 6200 w/ 256mb
If this sucks, ...
Still the point Goolup, First, you made this loggin just to repost what you did earlier. Or atleast in my opion.
Second, You are still making my point, Even if your times are correct. 1.5 hours to install a game just to get ready to play it. It took me less time to install Microsoft Visual Studio 2005. Which i get paid for using.
It seems that this must be a generation issue. My friends that are my age, feel about the same as I. We remeber playing ZORK on Compuseve. We make the dinasours look young. While my employee's that are younger (20's), think its ok to take that long.
This will be my last post on the subject. But if you don't agree with me and you read pc gammer or watch G4, you will have seen or heard of these complaints before.
My god bless you, You need it.
I played ZORK, so what this shows nothing. You had trouble trying to install a game oh well move on if you cant be bothered to even attempt to get into the game properly no loss to us. If you havnt noticed in most cases FFXI gets good reviews and the ones that it has had a lower rated review is usually from a guy who cant be bothered to play the game for more than an hour.
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Waiting for:
Lost Ark
New World
"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
The thing is: okay, 15gb is A LOT ammount of the HD that will be taken away... But if it doesn't, it won't be as beaultiful and as worthy of my moeny investments each month. I wont pay to play a WoW or something. Pay to waste my time on a pointless game. I have a lot of time to play the game, so... why not? Just waited for some download and now I have tons of fun each day
I think they just get scared when they see the first update pack to download, after some time installing the game...
on my computer FFXI takes ~7.5gb (edit: with all three expansions). In fact I've only used 11 gb total on my harddrive and I have a few other games installed so I can't see how it is possible for it to take more.
never had a problem with installation or crashes either =O Haven't even noticed a bug yet. I dunno, maybe the OP just had bad luck?
I'm more concerned about other "features" of the game though, like the very single-minded interface which prevents a player from even trying to do more than one thing at a time, from locking out commands/macros while viewing status/other windows to also locking out macros if the log window is selected (for expanding, so one can see what the heck happens in that clutter that is all of the message text that flies past), to even requiring programming macros to make any intelligent use of skills in the first place. Oh, and then there's the fact that one cannot play the game in the window or switch tasks in the game... I can't play it on my desktop because I cannot give up the ability to multitask. Thus I play it on my laptop while my desktop stays open for chatting and the inevitable trip to Gamefaqs/Alakhazam so I can get to the next step in building fame or crafting skill or whatever else without having to talk to everyone in town _and_ everyone in every linkshell I'm in.
If only some work was done on the UI this game would be a lot better than it is.
Got macros?
sure i have a macro
/welcome motion
/wait 1
/panic motion
/wait 2
/joy motion
Learn2insult
/joy motion
/wait 2
/panic motion
/wait2
/welcome motion
And then I say "Tada!"
I mind you haven't give the chance to really "know" the game... agreed that we are wrong accepting GBs of patches that toke a whole quarter of day but, is the natural grow....
btw, there's no need to say how much mmo you played or how much years you work on TI, since, Internet is free-to-say-anything and no one matters about how old are you in games or how hot rated is your PC.... it's only ego feed and don't solve anything....
Ragnarok bRO Monk Player...
Quited RO...
Re: The OP
It took me a long time to get it all installed and patched, but I just went and did something else while it was doing it. *shrug*
I am not a full-time gamer. I am not even a serious gamer. I play only a few hours a week and my computer is old and crappy. I am patient though, and I am perfectly willing to let my computer do stuff without watching it. There's always laundry to do while patching, etc. Uninstalling was no problem for me, but maybe you were, in fact, just having a bad day.
I couldn't quite get used to the controls of FFXI, I didn't meet many people, and my husband wouldn't try it, so I ended up leaving anyway, but I did actually play it off and on for a month.
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This is where I draw the line: __________________.
I'll give you this.. SE could do a good job of streamlining the setup process to get players into the game and playing. It is a bit convoluted. However, if well over 500-600k people managed to get through it over the course of what.. 5 years? 4? 6? I forget... It's certainly not insurmountable. AndI know for a fact that many of those who play it are your contemporaries... "making dinosaurs look old". I have a friend who also has a wife and child and doesn't have hours upon hours to play.. doesn't stop him. If there's a large patch, he lets it run overnight and plays it the next day.
The difference between a normal game and a MMO is, obviously, that there is far more content in a MMO. In FFXI, you're talking upwards of 6-8 Gigs. That's alot of data to be uncompressed and copied. And, depending on what version of the game you bought the patching time would be considerably different. Reason being, if you didn't buy the expansion, it still has to download a lot of new content so that your character can still see ToAU content, even though you can't access it yet.
As for "accepting patches"... what would you have them do? Release a new CD every time they have to patch the game? Freeze the game's development so there never are any more patches? What would be your solution to that? There's gonna be game updates, there's gonna be lots and lots and lots of new data created.. it's gotta get to us *somehow*...
Right?
It's not as though they're releasing a 3 gig patch every week.
I feel ya... I hate waiting for a patch, too... but your reaction is way over-the-top.
Relax, will ya?
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops