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WTF!!! they gave EVE a 8.4?!?
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Originally posted by WolfjunkieSolusek: There's an difference between nit-picking, and then trying to understand what you actually mean. Anyone who would read that piece of text, would most likely came to the same conclusion as i did.Besides, i doubt you have ever played EVE anyway(L2 story, over again, maybe?).
I did play EVE and i will tell you i wish i never had.
Im bringin sexy back.
I might as well pee in a bucket, and drop it over my head instead. Would be tens times more interresting, than debating with you Solusek.
But i guess you could become somewhat smarter when you grow up, if you try to do your homework in school.
ps_man: You wouldn't really know what results are.
For you, results maybe be Phat_Lewt_X, or level_xxxxx. For me, results are different - Economic growth, social networking(Which will always be an benefit. Need a certain item? Need an escort? Looking for a bit of PvP? Pull your strings), having fun.. All that stuff. I have no need to ever be the best, or the most leet.
lol those are personal results ! visable results are seeing that yes i have improved over the last month , yes im going to keep on playing but its difrent with eve you have to spend countless months clicking a button to make your level go higher !
You are one sad little man m8!
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"Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it."
--Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints."
--Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls."
--Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
So my questions to the MMORPG.com review process, based on the data, are as follows:
1) Roleplaying has picked up from 6 in 2004, to 7 in 2006. What is the difference between EVE as a roleplaying game in 2004, as opposed to today in 2006, other than everyone playing Caldari, and a game community that will shoot you unless you break your immersion and consent to TS/Vent?
2) Fun has picked up from 7 in 2004, to 8 in 2006. What has made this game more fun in 2006, than it was in 2004?
3) Performance/Lag has jumped from 7 in 2004, to a perfect score (10/10) today. I seriously wonder how Mr. Fortier could have come to this conclusion, seeing as how the game is nororious for lagging/freezing/locking (especially in the large fleet battles), and has quirky bugs of unknown origin (ships disappearing, black screens upon undocking). It is a constant theme that even the casual observer will notice as widespread, as evidenced in the EVE forums. Ironically, how many non-captured portraits have you seen there with the (!) designation? Some of them have been waiting for months to get their picture properly displayed. Can the reviewer honestly say that the game runs better than, say, City of Heroes? Or Everquest II? Perfection is just that...perfect. Not "better than average," or "acceptable given the size of CCP."
4) Customer Service is unchanged from a 9/10 (above average). Do you know that every petition for the last few months received the same response, with the following statement:
Unfortunately, we here at EVE Customer Support are at this point totally overrun with petitions. We cannot keep up, and must therefore unfortunately send everyone this response, where we ask if you are still having problems or if your case is solved at this point.
If your problem is still valid, then we apologise and ask you to reply to this and we'll try and help you as quickly as we are able.
If not, then please ignore this completely, and the petition will close on its own.
Furthermore, even if your issue is still valid, we would like to ask you if you feel it is important enough to pursue, or if it is minor enough to ignore in order for us to be able to give better (and quicker) service to those with real game-stopping issues.
We really do apologise for this request, but at this point we have no other option.
We hope that you are continuing having fun playing EVE.
To me, its honest enough, but this is no indication of good CS. Not only that, but there is no rulebook. Even simple questions need to be researched and asked on the forums (and if you think the flaming and disrespect is bad here, you should see the trolls on the EVE forum). Customer support isn't bad, but I question the score of 9 out of 10, especially given the recent breakdown in CS.
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"Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it."
--Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints."
--Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls."
--Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
Tue my question is what is eve giveing this site for them to go against everything than some people say like the game is laggy but yet they still say its perfect their i something defonatly wrong for eve to be so highly ranked yet no outhr site looks twice at eve its not top rated game on any outher site!
Say what you want about EVE Online, or any other game for that matter, but the fact is that EVE is expanding and there are many people who enjoy the game.
Dunno why you guys are so adamant about putting down a game. If you don't like it, just don't play it. I don't see how putting down a game helps you in any way in whatever other MMO you're playing. Hell, I don't like World of Warcraft because all it is is a quest grind with no endgame but who am I to force my own opinion on others?
That may be the case ps_man, but let's not jump to conclusions.
It could very well be the case that a game's review is dictated by the checks they send MMORPG.com. A lot depends on a review, and CCP wastes no time tagging all the good reviews on their advertisements. Its something that is becoming serious, and therefore, needs to be approached seriously.
I'd like an answer to exactly what caused the reviewer in this case (Mr. Fortier) to deviate from the already established review in 2004 by Hubbard, especially in terms of fun, roleplay, and performance/lag. Also, what caused the CS score to remain at 9, even though CCP has admitted that the petition process and CS was breaking down?
If there is no basis for the change other than Fortier's opinion, then, and only then, can we speculate as to the causes of his opinion, be they orders from MMORPG.com saying, "EVE is a major sponsor, so we must rate it ahead of Ryzom and Guild Wars," or a check, a wink, and a T2 BPO from Oveur saying, "I did right by you, so do right by us."
__________________________
"Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it."
--Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints."
--Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls."
--Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
Why EVE specifically then? There's a ton of other MMORPGs out there. If it's really so boring, I don't think anybody would play it, even to pass time.
There are always people who leave for newer games. And there HAVE been many games that came out since EVE did, and the population has steadily increased (yes, even with the launch of World of Warcraft). Not sure how you came to the conclusion that many people are 'just waiting' for the next best game.
~Greatness~
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I don't think everyone is trying to "put down" EVE. What I am seriously questioning is the VALIDITY and UNBIASED nature of this so-called "review".
To give EVE a 10/10 for performance/lag just makes the whole review questionable. The game is supposedly designed for big corps to fight it out in fleet battles, but the game itself can't handle it...nuff said.
(Plus it's a boring non-interactive screen-saver crossed with a flight-sim/economic-sim, ok, so I am putting it down
)
What i dont understand is why people have to compare every game out there with wow , and then to save their ass finish sentence with am not a wow fanboy but ..... i never played wow but ...... i know just by reading these forums daily that more than half have played wow or are playing atm . ok fine you wanna be a orc , nightelf and alll but for the love of god STOP comparing eve with wow geez .
Eve is not about getting uber items it's am open game where you can play your role as you see fit content is created by players like you and me , you either hate eve or you love it and yes it's slow pace and was meant to be this is NOT fantasy Leave this Game in peace . end of story
Beatnik59 i could'nt agree with you more if they even admit their cs is failing yet the "reviwer" still keeps the score the same something has got to be up! It could sell be that eve is a major sponser of the site! If thats the case this site is missleading alot of people to play eve!
Before i started typeing this reply i looked at reviwes and rateing's iof eve and what did i find only 1 rate said eve was brilliant the rest said stuff like boareing and i bet if some one read every reviwe and counted how meny people like it and hgow meny dis like it we would come up with a difrent set of figres to what we are seeing now ! If it does come back difrent their is obviously something corupt about this site and their is defonatly something going on between eve and mmorpg.com!
any game can handle it
if everyones avatars are reduced to 1 "." on screen
Stop feeding the trolls.
Learn to type SOMEWHAT without typos, learn to type coherent thought processes and stop trolling. Until then, your opinions and flamebaits are nothing but just that, flamebaits.. and I really don't want to bothered by your crap. This goes for Solusek, ps_man and nero666. Somehow I get the feeling you're one and the same person even.
I wonder why you are so obsessed with EVE... Even more as you played the trial (WTF???) and somehow can comment on a full game.... and if you played longer you probably got blown up and couldn't cope with it.
Stop being annoying.
Validity as in whether this review is VALID, or whether it is a marketing attempt by MMORPG.com (who may or may not be receiving something in return), which would then also make it BIASED. And I question the WHOLE issue of whether reviews should be biased, they should be written in such a way as to let a potential user make their own conclusions, at least on a site like THIS ONE they should. (MMORPG.com shouldn't be pushing any self-serving barrows, is what I mean, otherwise the whole site becomes corrupted and meaningless).
Then DON'T give the game 10/10 for performance! The sparseness of EVE's graphics makes this doubly annoying, there's hardly anything more than a dot onscreen for the other players (as someone else posted) and yet it still lags, something wrong there. (And BTW, there are plenty of games, even MMOs, that can handle 100 to 200 people in one area with no lag)
__________________________
"Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it."
--Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints."
--Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls."
--Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
Eve has so much to it:
Too bad not one of those things comes close to being "FUN". That is the fundumental design flaw of EVE. They didn't make it fun to play. You can leave EVE on for 24 hours and it will be happy to play itself. What is there for the player to do? You can mass combat, but auto target makes it so there is no real point. You can do missions, but the action is so slow that its blah. You can be a heavy hitter in the politics, but you have to play for years to earn your reputation and be able to compete with other people.