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Originally posted by damian7Originally posted by Pride7Originally posted by LeGray just a thougt: wow caters the casuals - most casuals have something better to do than sit in front of a pc and farm when its warm outside the numbers ARE dropping. maybe not much and only seasonal, but they are dropping. most ppl I know canceled their account and wait for more info about the expansion and if its worth reactivating. depending on the games coming out this fall they'll spend their money on another game (you can call that a trend what I hear in my guild and guilds other ppl I know). btw, good post about the virgins up there
Originally posted by damian7 Originally posted by Pride7Originally posted by damian7 your fact has what to do exactly with how the game plays? with how fun it is?
Before you speak you really should do some research... Let's compare how WOW rates vs. Eve the #1 MMO on this site in FUN,
EVE = 7.7WOW = 8.6
Your WOW jealousy has hit a new high, step back from the keyboard sit quietly and take a long hard look at your life.
I suppose when the facts are stacked against you I shouldn't be surprised you would resort to flat out lying... Show me where I said sales = fun? I didn't I did say and pointed to the FACT that WOW is rated higher in the FUN category than the #1 ranked MMO on these boards - Eve.
All joking aside I really think you should question why you have such a hard time with WOW's continued success.
Originally posted by damian7 Originally posted by Pride7Originally posted by damian7 Originally posted by Pride7
Post something of substance? That is ironic seeing as you can never post any facts. Come to the harsh reality that WOW is the #1 rated MMO on the market. Actually it is #3 of all games according to Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/misc/top100_score.html).
I am afraid I have some more facts...
On Gamespot WOW is the #1 MMO with 26k reviews, that dwarfs the 6k on this site now doesn't it
As for the "here is your sign comment" that is rich coming from the guy that didn't know Over 1 year and 19 months were the same thing! LOL
You have 0 facts to support any of your theories, I provide fact after fact to support what I say yet I am the lemming? LOL
I suppose I should expect childish name calling from someone that has no support to back up their argument. Also there you go lying again I said "over a year" I never said "a little over a year", 19 months and over a year are the same thing (I fear what your SAT scores were if you don't know that).
Originally posted by damian7 Originally posted by Pride7Originally posted by LeGray just a thougt: wow caters the casuals - most casuals have something better to do than sit in front of a pc and farm when its warm outside the numbers ARE dropping. maybe not much and only seasonal, but they are dropping. most ppl I know canceled their account and wait for more info about the expansion and if its worth reactivating. depending on the games coming out this fall they'll spend their money on another game (you can call that a trend what I hear in my guild and guilds other ppl I know). btw, good post about the virgins up there
How dare I quote facts! You are right I should just make up my own theories, throw in a lie or two, call some childish names and develop a hatred so deep that the reality of the world is meaningless in my own virtual kingdom.
By the way, if you look back you will see I said I played two characters to 60 in WOW and stopped playing. Just because I stopped playing doesn't take away from the fact that it was an outstanding game. Hopefully one day you will acheive a better level of clarity to understand that.
Originally posted by gnomexxx Could it be that people are finally beginning to come to their senses?I am amazed that it actually took as long as it did for WoW's rating to start to fall. I guess it was some peoples first MMO though. So they didn't know any better. Myself included. Thank God I had some friends that showed me other MMO's so I could experience the real fun of online gaming.
Originally posted by lsutig
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Originally posted by Pride7
Originally posted by damian7 quoting numbers time and again only proves that you either haven't played the game, or you can't articulate an intelligent review of said game so that you can defend how great the game is.
Or that I recognise that a personal view of the game is subjective and hence am not so intrested in them.
Or even that "defending the game" is not the reason any one here is making posts.
Originally posted by mistermask I think it comes from the fact the game is fun from level1to 60, and then it gets boring, as you need to do the same things again and again for months
Death at 60 and ruin of war.
I loved wow. I became a guild master of over 150 people. The moment I turned 60 it all went downhill. I've done everything but to do groupings with others to get into dungeons. OR THE WORSE PART - Playing in the battlegrounds - FLAG. OMG, two times I was bored with it. Sigh. I have created alts but all seems rehashed. Done that, been there.
When the game first begin, we attacked regions and horde groups surprised us in attacked inside our towns. We did raids and the horde responded immediately. Now, there are no constant little battle ground fightings. Rarely are there sneak attacks of large groups upon alliance cities. We had creted a whole world defense network. When an area was attacked, we responded. That's all but over now.
AND ANOTHER GUILD KILLER: With the Raid Dungeon - prizes, Guilds have been created solely to gather 60 levels to collect all the good drops. Everytime a person hits 60 in their family guild, they leave and join one of these groups. The regular RP guilds are now just a growing field for the 60's that after we've helped them, tended to them, guided them, they just leave for the great drops of armor and weapons.
It has destroyed the RP in so many of our groups. We no longer have the big horde attacks at anytime. Our 60's leave us for 60 only raid groups. There are no more lands. Only battlefields are the Flag and tag you're it kind of battlefields.
And now this new expansion - way tooooo late and too little. The characters look even more cartoonish. Too little too late.
It's a great game until 60, less great with the launching of flag battlegrounds.
WoW is a good game but its need to come out with a WoW4 its jsut gettin to old
Whenever i step outside, somebody claims to see the lightIt seems to me that all of us have lost our patience.'cause everyone thinks they're right,And nobody thinks that there just mightBe more than one road to our final destination--
I think the only downfall to WOW is a lack of depth. The game is quite fun for awhile but gets old pretty quick. The reason why I think you see a lot of people hating on WOW is that when a game like this is so sucessful it's going to create a lot of copy cats ( ala reality TV ) and we are going to be given less of a selection for more in depth games ( FFXI, EQ2 ). Don't get me wrong I like all the above mentioned games but when one becomes such a run away sucess everyone else copies and you lose variety but thats just my opinion and we all know opinions are like a holes everyones got one
"Get busy living or get busy dieing" Shawshank Redemtion
Originally posted by damian7 Originally posted by Pride7
Poor damian continues to broadcast his ignorance with little to add to this thread. Brush up on your reading comprehension skills as I never said it was a great game because it sold a lot of copies, although being #1 in sales, subs, and reviews does attest to the fact that it must be pretty darn good.
If you want to know why it is #1 go read one of the dozens of glowing reviews for it on Gamerankings.com, afterall it is the #1 rated/reviewed game so it shouldn't be that hard to find. I would give you my reasons why I think it is a good game but I don't think we'd agree on what makes up a good game seeing as I don't find the need to resort to belittling others religious beliefs when I have no facts to support my misguided opinions.
By the way you certainly ask a lot of questions for someone that continues to ignore requests to back up previous statements such as "WOW can't keep subs".
PS. I completely agree with your statement "you can't fix stupid", along those same lines can I have the number for your folks? I would like to discuss with them the options they have for preventing it to begin with. Thanks!
Originally posted by Pride7 Originally posted by damian7 Originally posted by Pride7
If you want to know why it is #1 go read one of the dozens of glowing reviews for it on Gamerankings.com, afterall it is the #1 rated/reviewed game so it shouldn't be that hard to find.
I checked that web site out.. and i couldnt even find WoW on its main page
Originally posted by Precusor Originally posted by Pride7 Originally posted by damian7 Originally posted by Pride7
There are no PC MMO's on it's main page, did you not see it, get confused and quit? Here is a link to the filter page, you have to filter by PC then RPG: MMO:
afterall it is the #1 rated/reviewed game
I hadn't seen that website before, but according to the website its nowhere the #1 rated or reviewed game. If you mean #1 rated or reviewed mmo then that is something different.
Originally posted by nomadian afterall it is the #1 rated/reviewed game
So.. that site gave WoW a 8.5 while mmorpg.com gave it a 8.1
Originally posted by Precusor So.. that site gave WoW a 8.5 while mmorpg.com gave it a 8.1liek omgawd
playing eq2 and two worlds
Originally posted by Pride7Originally posted by nomadian afterall it is the #1 rated/reviewed game
Not quite as big of a gap as the 7.7 it gives Eve but still #1. Personally I think the average score of 91.5% is a little more telling.
At the end of the day its all about taste. If you have a number of quality cheeses, the mild one which a lot of tasters to the cheese may like and a strong cheese which not so many like but nevertheless gains its fans, you can't say the mild cheese is better. The only thing you can say is that the mild cheese is liked more. WoW maybe widely liked as a mild cheese, but Eve Online maybe also a good cheese but just isn't liked by so many.