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Ashes of Creation Creative Director Steps In (Again) After YouTuber Flames Game | MMORPG.com

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  • GermzypieGermzypie Member UncommonPosts: 184
    Tatdad said:
    Lol, sitting back and watching people cling to this game as if it's going to be good has been enjoyable to watch, and we aren't even half way there yet, probably several more years of this coping.

    Ashes is going to fail, and it's going to fail b/c of the same reason every other mmorpg fails, and that reason is the PEOPLE. yes, you. The MMORPG community itself is the actual reason these games fail and it will be the same thing with Ashes because the community doesn't even realize this.

    One of the things about being a veteran gamer is you have seen it all after awhile...>The hype and the "this is going to be the greatest game ever" talk dont mean anything after awhile.

    This game is going to be a wow-killer.....
    KyleranSovrath
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,781
    So for those of you who have played it.

    Is the open world PVP aspect all the time or like other games can be ignored unless you 'turn on' pvp mode?
    It’s always on.

    Anyone can attack and kill you.  They will turn “red” and have several negative effects.  Currently there aren’t too many red characters because it’s easier to grief view mob training which is rumored to be fixed soon. As more people hit level cap we will se what happens.

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  • WargfootWargfoot Member EpicPosts: 1,626
    Slapshot1188 said:
     They will turn “red” and have several negative effects.  Currently there aren’t too many red characters because it’s easier to grief view mob training which is rumored to be fixed soon. As more people hit level cap we will se what happens.

    *pretends to not know what comes next*
  • ValdemarJValdemarJ Member RarePosts: 1,490
    Wargfoot said:
    The world of streaming is so foreign to me.

    We are now up to streamers "reacting" to Stephen's video response to Asmongold's video response to Narc's video.
    And you're reacting to all of that, and I'm reacting to your reaction....
    It may be one of those "circle of life" things.
    Yup. I had the very same thought when I posted that.

    Has Kevin Bacon reacted yet? Not full circle till then.
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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,968
    Stevens response to Narc's video, no clue what it says. I am watching it now

    Asmongold Interviews Steven Sharif about Ashes of Creation Drama
  • WargfootWargfoot Member EpicPosts: 1,626
    He probably wants the drama.
    Some fanboi out there is like, "Fail? Not on my watch."
    *pulls out credit card*
    Slapshot1188
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,781
    Nanfoodle said:
    Stevens response to Narc's video, no clue what it says. I am watching it now

    Asmongold Interviews Steven Sharif about Ashes of Creation Drama
    By far the best part of Asmongold's video is when Stephen asked him to login to the game and he would take him around, and Asmongold was like... uhh... Dude, I haven't loaded this thing up in weeks, starts to try and patch it, and gives up and just tells Stephen to login and stream.

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  • WargfootWargfoot Member EpicPosts: 1,626
    Nanfoodle said:
    Stevens response to Narc's video, no clue what it says. I am watching it now

    Asmongold Interviews Steven Sharif about Ashes of Creation Drama
    By far the best part of Asmongold's video is when Stephen asked him to login to the game and he would take him around, and Asmongold was like... uhh... Dude, I haven't loaded this thing up in weeks, starts to try and patch it, and gives up and just tells Stephen to login and stream.
    How do you go to an interview like that and not have the game ready to go?
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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,968
    Wargfoot said:
    Nanfoodle said:
    Stevens response to Narc's video, no clue what it says. I am watching it now

    Asmongold Interviews Steven Sharif about Ashes of Creation Drama
    By far the best part of Asmongold's video is when Stephen asked him to login to the game and he would take him around, and Asmongold was like... uhh... Dude, I haven't loaded this thing up in weeks, starts to try and patch it, and gives up and just tells Stephen to login and stream.
    How do you go to an interview like that and not have the game ready to go?
    Asmongold has a very toxic following. Games he trys to stream, like Ashes. His followers and haters log into to just kill and grief him. His last Ashes stream, Asmon could not play at all. Because of this you can no longer kill a player under level 6. 
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,968
    Really great interview with Steven on this. Enjoyed it allot lol

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,781
    You must REAAAALY like it as you also linked it 2 hours ago just above...

    I'm really surprised that the MLM guy continued to take no responsibility.  No really.  I am.

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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,968
    Nacr's video has 150k views before you take into account the reaction videos and the like. Narc has been proven to have lied and stretched the facts he did say. Seeing Steven get salty on this is a cool thing to see. Sad thing is this video will get less traction then the lies. 
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,781
    Nanfoodle said:
    Nacr's video has 150k views before you take into account the reaction videos and the like. Narc has been proven to have lied and stretched the facts he did say. Seeing Steven get salty on this is a cool thing to see. Sad thing is this video will get less traction then the lies. 
    Here's a clue.  Both Narc and Stephen stretched certain truths.  Narc did to Stephen what he does all the time.  There are truths in what BOTH say.

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  • Haki88Haki88 Member UncommonPosts: 239
    Narc didnt lied!

    They showed edge of map, invisible wall. Even Steven login and show us edge of map, BUT if you see Narc video he is running on that desert map....

    So....steven lied as usual.

    Narc showed us official livestream where steven said phase 2 introduces desert expansion. How steven defend himself? By saying it was christmas, new year and there is 5 months of phase 2. Wtf? When you say there is going to be desert expansion in phase 2, people expect it not to wait months. He gonna do that expansion in 3 months and people gonna have 2 months to test it? LOL

    Narc said you cant cut tree in desert. What steven did? he went outside desert and started to cut tree and later said it is in development. Again, wtf? All trees in desert are transparent, you can run to tree ffs.

    Narc said freeholds are copy paste. Steven agree and said this is progress, later they will change model. But.....what about desert trees? Same thing, why they didnt do that?

    Steven used what asmongoold said before "people got burned playing whole time 1 game" just to get approval from asmongold LOL

    Pricing is very funny. Steven said prices are high because he needs to pay for servers. Issue? Money! But then why.....why...he hired whole PR team before alpha was even released and im talking about alpha 1. Why do you need whole marketing team?

    But if you watch video steven later said they do ZERO marketing. Confusing isnt it?

    Steven switch side little bit from game and start mentioning how he pays alot of money and health insurance for his employes. Who cares???

    Steven also said dont buy game. Yes he likes to do this in last 1 year since by that he hyped it soooo much. Also steven said he doesnt like hype, so what he do? Giving content creators free key, making asmongold in character creation, even now joining asmongold stream.

    Asmongold was right when he said steven is very good seller....well he was in the past working for company and was one of top sellers by selling juice which cures cancer.

    I also think whole stream was not right since he let narc first and you can clearly see how asmongold behave with narc and how with steven.

    Asmongold said if company is promoting by their words CURRENT STATE OF GAME he thinks it is not. Ok, but....oh god here we go again, confusing part....but if company says it is current state of game which is clearly not wasnt steven and his company lied to people??

    Asmon also bring piratesoftware guy....yea first bring narc, then steven the defender and softwareguy who is fanboy.

    That same fanboy said on his video that guild limit of 300 players is too small and it should be 1500 !!!!!! on 10 000 player server !!!

    Asmon made mistake by not putting narc to have final word.
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,968
    Like I said the damage is done, prof of that is above lol see ya in May when phase two is finished. Proof is always in the pudding. Fail or succeed. We will see. 
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,968
    Interview with Narc with Asmongold calling out his lies and Narc keeps stammering. Here is you care to watch 

  • WargfootWargfoot Member EpicPosts: 1,626
    They should roll this into a new series on Netflix.
    It would be their best drama.
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  • harken33harken33 Member RarePosts: 323
    edited January 7

    On the previous episode of the Days of our Ashes:

    Narc and Steven’s bromance has imploded, with each accusing the other of stretching the truth and spreading lies. Will they ever celebrate together over some Xango juice again?

    Asmongold swoops in determined to patch things up, but things go south fast. Could this have been part of his diabolical plan to fan the flames, profit himself and perhaps even take over intrepid studios?

    Nanfoodle’s wife reveals she is a triplet, that those 2 vow renewals they performed were with her sisters and due to a loophole in the law he has 3 wives. This means legally 2 more Ashes accounts must be purchased.

    Stay tuned, this and more on the next exciting episode of Days of our Ashes.






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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,781
    edited January 7
    lol another “streamer” making a video about Asmongolds video talking about Narcs video. At almost 4 hours long?

    Ooooo Kay….

    If we are going to play that game… here’s the highest upvoted comment:

    https://imgur.com/a/XvUWHrC

    @rory7466 • 7h ago

    Narc's core point is spot on, the showcases and communication are consistently misleading verging on a lies and scamming, but he's obviously angrily edited the video for hyperbole and visual jokes with the barren part of the desert and it has given you cultists a 'get out of jail free' strawman to invalidate his entire argument, you're only hurting the game in the long run by giving Steven a pass on this.


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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,968
    test, thread seems to be broken 
  • WargfootWargfoot Member EpicPosts: 1,626
    lol another “streamer” making a video about Asmongolds video talking about Narcs video. At almost 4 hours long?

    Ooooo Kay….

    If we are going to play that game… here’s the highest upvoted comment:

    https://imgur.com/a/XvUWHrC

    @rory7466 • 7h ago

    Narc's core point is spot on, the showcases and communication are consistently misleading verging on a lies and scamming, but he's obviously angrily edited the video for hyperbole and visual jokes with the barren part of the desert and it has given you cultists a 'get out of jail free' strawman to invalidate his entire argument, you're only hurting the game in the long run by giving Steven a pass on this.


    Here is the thing I go back to when these dramas erupt.

    When the game releases I'll either like it or I won't.
    I don't care what anyone else has to say about it.

    I'm sure most here are the same.
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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,968
    lol another “streamer” making a video about Asmongolds video talking about Narcs video. At almost 4 hours long?

    Ooooo Kay….

    If we are going to play that game… here’s the highest upvoted comment:

    https://imgur.com/a/XvUWHrC

    @rory7466 • 7h ago

    Narc's core point is spot on, the showcases and communication are consistently misleading verging on a lies and scamming, but he's obviously angrily edited the video for hyperbole and visual jokes with the barren part of the desert and it has given you cultists a 'get out of jail free' strawman to invalidate his entire argument, you're only hurting the game in the long run by giving Steven a pass on this.


    I only watched the first 15 min. Narc gets called out on a number of lies as you watch him spin trying to stay on the points he has stated. Asmon calls on the lies in a way that does not insult but has Narc agreeing what he said is not true and then turns around and restates his same lies. Its worth the 15- to 20 min if you care to see how silly Narc hill he is standing on. Best part of the video is also a capture of Narc playing again yesterday with a 4hr stream entailed "Not quitting forever" Making the title of the video that sparked this, also a lie lol
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,781
    Like I, and the commenters said… his core points stand and are valid.  Can you find parts to nitpick?  Sure.  Was he 100 percent right? No.  Was he substantially correct?  Yes.  

    Just for my personal edification, if you don’t mind my asking… are you part of one of the Pirate Software Guilds? 

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  • PonziniPonzini Member UncommonPosts: 536
    edited January 7
    Like I, and the commenters said… his core points stand and are valid.  Can you find parts to nitpick?  Sure.  Was he 100 percent right? No.  Was he substantially correct?  Yes.  

    Just for my personal edification, if you don’t mind my asking… are you part of one of the Pirate Software Guilds? 
    100% communication could be way better. Steven has a bad habit of promising shit that doesn't happen or saying the wrong thing. My biggest advice to Steven would be to just talk less. Not only do I think open development is a bad idea after Ashes but Steven is particularly a bad fit for open development. Though I dont think he does any of it maliciously.

    Another mistake is the only reason any of this is an issue is because people feel invested because they have taken money from people. The second you take money you have to really watch what you promise and what you say. Though maybe they wouldn't have been able to make this game on only Stevens money if that was the case. 

    Intrepid has been really good about refunds at least. Ultimately, nothing can be done about what Steven has promised and failed to deliver on. Open development sucks and nitpicking his words is kind of a waste of time. The best course IS to wait and see what the game becomes. Which is what I am doing. I didn't play the alpha long and only do quick checks on the game every other month. My expectations are also fairly low but sadly probably the best hope we have for a good MMO currently. 
    Nanfoodle
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,968
    edited January 8
    Like I, and the commenters said… his core points stand and are valid.  Can you find parts to nitpick?  Sure.  Was he 100 percent right? No.  Was he substantially correct?  Yes.  

    Just for my personal edification, if you don’t mind my asking… are you part of one of the Pirate Software Guilds? 
    No I'm a role player first. I started MMOing from my PnP days. I was thrilled to RP in a open 3D world. 
    Slapshot1188
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