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Metaverse-like MMO AVALON Aims to Redefine What's Possible in Online Games | MMORPG.com

SystemSystem Member UncommonPosts: 12,599
edited November 2023 in News & Features Discussion

imageMetaverse-like MMO AVALON Aims to Redefine What's Possible in Online Games | MMORPG.com

MMORPG's and Metaverse can go hand in hand, and in a recent announcement from Avalon Corp, a new contender has emerged with a vision to redefine the genre: AVALON.

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  • NeoyoshiNeoyoshi Member RarePosts: 1,388
    edited November 2023
    Fuck all of this coming-down-from-the-mountain-to-show-us-the-way bullshit. (sorry for the swearing)

    But seriously, they need to dial their presentation of this way back, it's not jesus folks.
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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,193
    Neoyoshi said:
    Fuck all of this coming-down-from-the-mountain-to-show-us-the-way bullshit. (sorry for the swearing)

    But seriously, they need to dial their presentation of this way back, it's not jesus folks.
    I think that's just the whole "metaverse" thing that companies are trying to focus on. 

    I'm not against web3, but it's kind of funny to see how many of these games make the same claims and none of them have delivered. Worse, games that expect ugc to be the thing that keeps them alive are taking a big gamble because most ugc is crap
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,882
    Bingo?

    ;)
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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,774
    That was a mouthful. My take away, they have backers. Here is the hope they don't ask for pledges as well.
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  • TruvidiennTruvidienn Member UncommonPosts: 340
    Is this supposed to be like a social MMO?
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,022
    "Instead of being a metaverse, which Pinnock states will eventually materialize as a collaborative effort in the future, AVALON is a platform, a set of tools..."

    So not a metaverse at all but a buzzword for the studio to leap onto. Aside from that I am interested, we shall see.
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  • AngrakhanAngrakhan Member EpicPosts: 1,646
    edited November 2023
    Ok, well let me decrypt the word "platform" for anyone that doesn't know what that means or understands what they're trying to do. It's just a common set of frameworks, engines, and services in this case to build online games. Think Amazon Web Services or Microsoft Azure but specifically for games. That means a common toolkit for developing things like authentication servers, game servers that can automatically scale out, database servers with high enough transaction concurrency to handle thousands of concurrent players, a client framework that is probably more than just Unreal Engine but also all the bundled packages to make it talk to the server side components.

    Where this talk of having these worlds interact with one another comes from the fact that if two developers build different games on this platform it would be relatively easy to have them be able to interact with each other because under the covers they're talking to the same systems. As a player you could probably literally do what they show here where you walk through a portal in one game and poof you're in a new game. Depending on how tightly they enforce standards a lot of your character data could transfer seamlessly between the two. Granted if you're going from a fantasy game to a cyberpunk game I doubt you would retain your gear and powers because they wouldn't make sense to cross over unless two developers specifically agreed upon a collaboration on that level. But you could retain your name and character appearance which would be pretty cool to see happen in a seamless transition like that.

    Also this could drastically reduce development times for games because a lot of the basic wheels, which are complicated, time consuming, and expensive to develop will already be invented. The development team could focus on building their game and not on how they're going to scale beyond 10 players in the same area, how they're going to prevent item duping, or avoid login queues. All of those are pretty complicated to solve in spite of people declaring "all you gotta do is..." Just ask New World.

    If Avalon can build a platform that has all these foundation level questions answered, it could be a really big deal for online games. However, more than likely they will either completely fail to deliver this Nirvana, or AWS or MS will buy them out once they get it to a point of minimal viability and bundle what they built into their cloud services.
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  • SeupsutSeupsut Newbie CommonPosts: 1
    edited November 2023
    Wow, that was a lot of hype words to say almost nothing about a product. Even the video is just buzz words without context.

    So, what, it's a new Second Life? So far it seems like a lot of smoke and no fire.
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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,403

    Seupsut said:

    Wow, that was a lot of hype words to say almost nothing about a product. Even the video is just buzz words without context.



    So, what, it's a new Second Life? So far it seems like a lot of smoke and no fire.



    Naw, just a better looking Roblox
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  • XanzoXanzo Member UncommonPosts: 137
    You have to pay 15 bucks for a 7 day pass or 60 for a 30 day pass. Have fun with that...
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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,774
    Xanzo said:
    You have to pay 15 bucks for a 7 day pass or 60 for a 30 day pass. Have fun with that...
    I agree. Gamepass is $18 a month in Canada. Not sure how to translate the value I would need to get for $60 a month? If I wanted to play with my wife thats $120 USD. Thats what D+ costs for the year. Just seems out or wack.  
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  • NeoyoshiNeoyoshi Member RarePosts: 1,388
    My outburst i had was a little bit of being tired oh hearing current and trending buzzwords; mixed in with my frustration of the presentation not being clear about what kind of product this is supposed to be.

    None of what i saw, heard, or read translated into 'this is a video game' let alone being something related to what my understanding of a mmorpg is.


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  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,636
    Not entirely sure why seeing this makes me think of Stadia
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,643
    How about making a handful of amazing mmorpg’s first and then we can talk metaverse.
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  • WargfootWargfoot Member EpicPosts: 1,262
    Sovrath said:
    How about making a handful of amazing mmorpg’s first and then we can talk metaverse.
    This.

    I'd dial it back to a one decent single player game.

    Do that, then try a MMROPG.


    Sovrath
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,022
    edited November 2023
    Wargfoot said:
    Sovrath said:
    How about making a handful of amazing mmorpg’s first and then we can talk metaverse.
    This.

    I'd dial it back to a one decent single player game.

    Do that, then try a MMROPG.


    But there are so many things I want to see before I play a great game; being part of the development process, great gambling gameplay, great metaverse, great crypto, great cosmetic outfits...just so many things I need to see before I play a great game.

    You know I am starting to ask myself, do we need a great game at all?
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  • ShinyFlygonShinyFlygon Member UncommonPosts: 562
    Jeffrey Butler is a world-class con artist who used his EQ cred to dupe fans into believing EQ Next could be a thing. Anyone with any industry experience could tell that they didn't have anywhere near the tech expertise or budget to create what they claimed they were creating.

    Do not believe a word any of these lying bastards has to say.
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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 9,926
    Just use bigger words like "metaverse" to make people thinkl they are getting something greater than they are and take more of their money.
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