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Amazon Games Is Making A New Lord Of The Rings MMORPG | MMORPG.com

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imageAmazon Games Is Making A New Lord Of The Rings MMORPG | MMORPG.com

Amazon Games and Middle-earth Enterprises announced this morning that the two have entered into a partnership to make a brand new Lord of the Rings-themed MMORPG. The upcoming MMO is in pre-production and is being made by the the Amazon Games Orange County team resposible for New World.

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  • SophusVir33SophusVir33 Member UncommonPosts: 68
    Didn't they already have one of these and end up canceling it? BTW. Why not feed all the lore books and info into ChatGPT and just let it come up with the game? Probably better than most current game designs.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,882
    edited May 2023
    So not being made by Smed's old San Diego team then.  

    Pre-production means a 2028 or beyond release date at best.....

    Wake me up in 2030 please...
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  • blackthornnblackthornn Member UncommonPosts: 617
    Was pretty sure amazon bungled this once already and bailed on it. I recall Smed might have been involved ir something?
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Good. Hopefully the Orange County team learned enough on the job working on New World to do better the second time around :)
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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,775
    edited May 2023


    Didn't they already have one of these and end up canceling it? BTW. Why not feed all the lore books and info into ChatGPT and just let it come up with the game? Probably better than most current game designs.



    Amazon and another Studio were working on it and had a falling out between the 2 studios. So all Amazon could do was to shut production down. I would be interested in Amazon is starting from the ground up, or if they have retained anything from the first game.
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  • DarkhawkeDarkhawke Member UncommonPosts: 212
    Do not have alot if faith in AGS  with there track record to deliver a good LOTR MMO
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  • ValdemarJValdemarJ Member RarePosts: 1,333
    Nanfoodle said:


    Didn't they already have one of these and end up canceling it? BTW. Why not feed all the lore books and info into ChatGPT and just let it come up with the game? Probably better than most current game designs.



    Amazon and another Studio were working on it and had a falling out between the 2 studios. So all Amazon could do was to shut production down. I would be interested in Amazon is starting from the ground up, or if they have retained anything from the first game.

    If I recall from some news articles, Amazon was partnering with a third party studio they don't own, so I would not expect them to keep any access to source or assets unless they bought them, or Embracer actually own the source/assets (based on whatever previous licensing deal they had with that studio) and then licensed them to Amazon. I doubt that too because licensing agreements with rights holders rarely ever encompass source and Embracer bought the rights from Saul Zantz after the project had started.

    It is somewhat interesting to me how much Embracer owns with no industry or government sabre rattling involved at all. They are so huge and own so much, it's hard to list them all without digging into their subsidiaries and all that they own.

    I'm just waiting for the CMA/UK to realize they don't even own their precious Lord of the Rings anymore and to issue an ultimatum to Embracer that they're no longer allowed to use the IP without prior approval from them. :lol:

    Wiki entry on Embracer. To get a good feel for the scope of their holdings you have to click down some of the companies to see what's been reshuffled under their umbrella.

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  • achesomaachesoma Member RarePosts: 1,762


    Was pretty sure amazon bungled this once already and bailed on it. I recall Smed might have been involved ir something?



    Try reading the article first.
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  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,916
    If it's anything like the RANGS OF POWA they might as well burn the money.
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    edited May 2023
    Nanfoodle said:


    Didn't they already have one of these and end up canceling it? BTW. Why not feed all the lore books and info into ChatGPT and just let it come up with the game? Probably better than most current game designs.



    Amazon and another Studio were working on it and had a falling out between the 2 studios. So all Amazon could do was to shut production down. I would be interested in Amazon is starting from the ground up, or if they have retained anything from the first game.
    Close. But actually...

    "Middle-earth Enterprises, the company owning the rights to The Lord of the Rings IP at the time, had a contract clause allowing it to terminate its deal with both Amazon and Leyou if either of its partners were acquired."

    https://gamerant.com/lord-of-the-rings-mmo-cancellation-reason-amazon/#:~:text=It seems that Tencent's purchasing,was acquired by the conglomerate.
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  • achesomaachesoma Member RarePosts: 1,762
    Nilden said:
    If it's anything like the RANGS OF POWA they might as well burn the money.

    Their game will be set in J.R.R. Tolkien’s Middle-earth, featuring the stories of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings literary trilogy.

    They were also very clear to add:

    Separately, Amazon Studios produces the hit series The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power for Prime Video, which takes place during Tolkien’s Second Age of Middle-earth and is unrelated to this upcoming MMO game in development with Amazon Games.


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  • Pher0ciousPher0cious Member RarePosts: 525


    Didn't they already have one of these and end up canceling it? BTW. Why not feed all the lore books and info into ChatGPT and just let it come up with the game? Probably better than most current game designs.



    Nah, they'll also add "maximize profit" command. Then it'll just be micro transaction galore.
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  • Davidoff85Davidoff85 Member UncommonPosts: 37
    Lord of the Ring made by Amazon euh ?? Well...it's gonna be the only game where you will be able to dupe the unique Ring!
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,408
    Of course I am irrationally excited by the news even though I know it likely ends poorly.
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  • KratierKratier Member RarePosts: 626
    as long as its f2p im sure everyone will try it out, like lost ark, and it will be million+ players eager for a new mmo day 1
  • ValdemarJValdemarJ Member RarePosts: 1,333
    I'm curious if they'll use Lumberyard, Unreal, a custom in house engine, or what they will choose. I'm also curious if MMORPG means just that or do they mean "mmo" and "rpg" as more marketing concepts than genre descriptions.
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  • RandomCasualtyRandomCasualty Member UncommonPosts: 327
    Hopefully designed for Western players from the ground up and not just dragged over from a Korean version
  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,011
    Amazon sucks at managing huge IPs (see Wheel of Time and Rings of Power). Like they really just create abominations. Add in clueless New World devs and the AGS that has no idea of how to manage Lost Ark?

    They are going to need a miracle of top end leads with enough freedom to do it right. I just don't see AGS giving developers much of a leash.
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  • CaldicotCaldicot Member UncommonPosts: 455
    Do kids these days know about LotR?

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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,775


    Of course I am irrationally excited by the news even though I know it likely ends poorly.



    I have yet been able to point at a game that had Amazons involvement that made me happy. More I see about Throne and Liberty makes me think the worse is yet to come.
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,775
    edited May 2023

    Caldicot said:

    Do kids these days know about LotR?



    Sure, its in Movies, they may have no clue it was a book first =-)
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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,775
    Just read the game will have the same Engine as New World =-\
  • nyxiumnyxium Member UncommonPosts: 1,345
    edited May 2023
    Lol there's already a Lords of the Rings Online MMO out. This is total monopolizing by Amazon who already have an MMO, New World, and now they want Standing Stone Games out of business, a typical example of Amazon Sauron trying to snuff out the SSG Shire. How is Amazon not being investigated for antitrust? Trolled by the big corporations again.
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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,043
    Nanfoodle said:
    Just read the game will have the same Engine as New World =-\
    I don’t really consider that a bad thing to be honest, for how good it looks New World runs extremely well. All the other stuff though? There is almost no way they can’t royally screw this one up.

    /Cheers,
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,023
    This had just better not effect Lotro, there will be hype beyond hype about this even if it launches as another shambles it could be a danger until then.
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