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Blue Protocol: Why People Are Hoping It Comes to The West
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They ruin them for you. But forgive "most" of us if we don't recognize you as the official spokesperson for the MMO genre.
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I agree with this sentiment, but for me it isn't the toxic nature that is the most important part. It is the fact that they are not going to waste a crap ton of resources and time on it. Instead that time is going to be spent making a great PVE experience.
Think of the resources not needed to re-balance skills over and over because they are to strong for PVP or under preforming in PVP. I know they will still balance skills over time, but devs have a tendency to go overboard when they are trying to balance between the two game modes.
One of the worst things in gaming is devs trying to do it all or bring in all the different types of players. When they stop doing that and make a game for a set of players instead the games tend to be better for those players.
Don't get me wrong I do enjoy the occasional PVP, but not every game has to have PVP or PVE. You can have a grate PVP game with no PVE and vice versus.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
people have a big hype for this game, and they know the game do not have pvp, so yes, most of us.
OTOH if the content is good enough, people won't mind repeating it. There's also the nature of the characters. In City of Heroes you could make a wide variety of characters so could attack a problem in different ways. Plus, the content in the game was varied and exciting. It still is when compared to other MMOs.
PvP also lets people relax in different ways. In EVE you always have to be looking over your shoulder while resource harvesting. In Earth & Beyond I remember going into a zen state just harvesting gas clouds and asteroids. Good times.
I was not interested in the game in the slightest until I read that they were leaving out the Excuse for every balance issue any mmo ever had and the cause of 50% of the drama (Elitism around high end PVE being the other half).
Theres enough gank boxes being made by lazy devs who succumbed to the "make the players the content" myth to satisfy the PVP audience.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
CoH was 8 years old when it was sundowned and still profitable even without major support from NCSoft. There's a legal fan-run sever that's been going on since 2018 which had a few updates too. So we we have a game running for 12 years. So I'd say the content and game is good enough to retain people.
Do you have any research to substantiate that claim? I'm dubious that's true. The shift to the F2P model was driven far more by the publishers, who figured out through scientific research that the F2P model was far more addictive and thus profitable than it was the players having a problem with the subscription.
The idea players somehow don't have the financial means to pay the sub, but they somehow DO have the means to pay for DLC and cash shop items is a bit far fetched as well.
I think you'll find the average customer who actually spends money on a F2P title spends on average WAY more than they would on a box price + sub for the same amount of play time. THAT is why so many games are F2P, not that players can't afford the sub.
I mean seriously, I literally just payed $65 to take my family out for dinner. ONE meal. We weren't there even an hour. You think I can't afford $15/mo sub?
FF14 proves you can have PVP and a non-toxix community. There is PVP the fact players are not that interested in it could play a part in that, ie; maybe the FF players are less toxic because we don't PVP as much...
The savage and even extreme scene can be pretty toxic though....lol
I recall playing bantum league baseball at 7 years old and they had us catcall our opponents whenever they came up to bat.
I still remember it to this day, "he can't hit, he can't hit, batta, batta, batta, he can't hit."
Only got worse as we grew older.
Meanwhile, I don't recall a batting cage machine ever calling me names.
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pvp also limits on the type of combat you can add since it has to be balanced if you try to shove in pvp.
having blue protocol be purely pve will let them use alot more resources in making pve good by making a good story, quests,world, dungeons, etc. and not having to worry about pvp will let them make and tune the combat for pve making it alot more immersive and fantastical like dragons dogma (casting classes would get fucked if it had pvp).