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Lost Ark Team Updates Top Issues, Addresses Bot and Economy Concerns, and More Support for Europe Se

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edited March 2022 in News & Features Discussion

imageLost Ark Team Updates Top Issues, Addresses Bot and Economy Concerns, and More Support for Europe Servers | MMORPG.com

After the huge March update went live in Lost Ark, the team updated the community on top issues, including ongoing bot bans, economy concerns, and Europe server improvements and support.

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  • ReaperUkReaperUk Member UncommonPosts: 760
    The chat filter that's really needed is one that can filter out any messages containing key text strings such as www, wvvw w-w-w etc.
    ScotMendel
  • evolgrinzevolgrinz Member UncommonPosts: 151
    The problem with the chat filter is that is blocks all chat from the regions you deselected, even if they are talking English.
    I discovered this last evening when I had a guy from Germany in my pug and I couldn't see his party chat even though he was talking English.
    Scot
  • KratierKratier Member RarePosts: 626
    the devs can say all they want, but they aren't perm banning gold buyers, just 24 hour temp ban. you can buy 100k gold, 1 million gold, take a day off, then progress 100x faster than any whale when you come back
  • Th3M3nT0rTh3M3nT0r Newbie CommonPosts: 10
    edited March 2022
    From last update it P2W game. Stop dreaming about end-game content as F2P player. It is totally different game then RU or KR server have (which is pay for convenience game). Amazon is number one in game killing industry. ;)
    Viper482Kyleran
  • TyemexTyemex Member CommonPosts: 3
    The experience i had with them, out of the gate, makes me happy they fouled up my founders pack order, tricked me into a refund to repurchase resolution, then not having a product to repurchase (Problem solved in their mind).

    That was my very first experience with Amazon games. Very first, and very last.
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,603

    Kratier said:

    the devs can say all they want, but they aren't perm banning gold buyers, just 24 hour temp ban. you can buy 100k gold, 1 million gold, take a day off, then progress 100x faster than any whale when you come back



    But wouldn't the ban also include removing that gold you are talking about?

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  • wytchen1wytchen1 Member UncommonPosts: 4
    game is not p2w doubt people that say game is p2w have even played it
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,001
    wytchen1 said:
    game is not p2w doubt people that say game is p2w have even played it
    If that were really true then there would be no bots, gold sellers and buyers.

    Clearly there's some advantage of decent value which makes this trading viable.


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  • BLNXBLNX Member UncommonPosts: 275
    Kyleran said:
    wytchen1 said:
    game is not p2w doubt people that say game is p2w have even played it
    If that were really true then there would be no bots, gold sellers and buyers.

    Clearly there's some advantage of decent value which makes this trading viable.


    The game is actually P2S.

    Makes me sleepy every time I play.
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  • MorbeousMorbeous Member UncommonPosts: 87

    Kyleran said:


    wytchen1 said:

    game is not p2w doubt people that say game is p2w have even played it


    If that were really true then there would be no bots, gold sellers and buyers.

    Clearly there's some advantage of decent value which makes this trading viable.





    The majority of mmos have gold sellers but that doesn’t make them p2w
    eoloe
  • WordsworthWordsworth Member UncommonPosts: 173

    Kyleran said:


    wytchen1 said:

    game is not p2w doubt people that say game is p2w have even played it


    If that were really true then there would be no bots, gold sellers and buyers.

    Clearly there's some advantage of decent value which makes this trading viable.





    Spending money just cuts the amount of days/weeks/months you need to do dailies more than anything. Arena PvP is normalized. Really, the only thing you could gain by being 1400+ faster is perhaps in guild wars when they come out, but I don't even know how they work yet. I understand the rush in games like Archeage where if you can stay ahead in power, you can control all the farming spots in PvP. It doesn't seem to get you much more than an empty wallet here.

    It's weird to see so many people in such a rush to progress in a game that's obviously heavily influenced by the slow, log in every day and get a little better loops in mobile games.
    Kyleran
  • WebbyGamingWebbyGaming Member UncommonPosts: 38
    edited March 2022

    wytchen1 said:

    game is not p2w doubt people that say game is p2w have even played it


    Lost Ark is 100% pay-to-win, right up there with the worst of them.

    People that say it's not P2W have either not played the game and just want to argue the point, or they have some weird emotional need to lie in order to defend a game. It is not a matter of subjective opinion or your personal definition of pay-to-win... Lost Ark is OBJECTIVELY and DEMONSTRABLY a full Pay-to-Win game.
  • haplo602haplo602 Member UncommonPosts: 254




    wytchen1 said:


    game is not p2w doubt people that say game is p2w have even played it




    Lost Ark is 100% pay-to-win, right up there with the worst of them.



    People that say it's not P2W have either not played the game and just want to argue the point, or they have some weird emotional need to lie in order to defend a game. It is not a matter of subjective opinion or your personal definition of pay-to-win... Lost Ark is OBJECTIVELY and DEMONSTRABLY a full Pay-to-Win game.



    How is a PvE game pay to win ? Please explain ... There is literally no endgame content here ... nothing you gain from getting there first etc ... You can do everything without spending a ccent ...

    This is like XP boosters in Single player games ... what's the point ? You just throwing money out the window for no benefit.
    eoloegrimal
  • emperorhades1emperorhades1 Member RarePosts: 417
    I am just surprised people are still playing this garbage after week 2.
    kikoodutroa8
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,001
    haplo602 said:




    wytchen1 said:


    game is not p2w doubt people that say game is p2w have even played it




    Lost Ark is 100% pay-to-win, right up there with the worst of them.



    People that say it's not P2W have either not played the game and just want to argue the point, or they have some weird emotional need to lie in order to defend a game. It is not a matter of subjective opinion or your personal definition of pay-to-win... Lost Ark is OBJECTIVELY and DEMONSTRABLY a full Pay-to-Win game.



    How is a PvE game pay to win ? Please explain ... There is literally no endgame content here ... nothing you gain from getting there first etc ... You can do everything without spending a ccent ...

    This is like XP boosters in Single player games ... what's the point ? You just throwing money out the window for no benefit.
    People have wildly differing opinions on what "winning" means in an online multiplayer game.

    To many paying for any advantage constitutes P2W but then they are diluting the meaning of the term into being largely  useless. 

    There really have been games historically (typically PVP focused) which you really could not "win" unless you buffed up your gear via the cash shop.

    Runes of Magic was very heavily P2W back when it first launched, not sure today though

    Pay for Advantage (PfA) would be a more accurate moniker but that's a battle I've been fighting for years with little success.

    The best concession I've seen gamers  agree to (a little) is P2W is a sliding scale, varying from the very benign, such as in Paths of Exiles, increasingly moving up the scale as more and more advantages can be purchased.

    Another point is a game's design may well mitigate the impact of PfA purchases, EVE Online does a good job in this regard.

    Despite being able to spend real world money to easily (not necessarily directly) purchase in game currency and skill training boosters, or even fully skilled out characters the impact of others doing such is rarely observed or felt by those who don't partake in the practice.



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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,463
    edited March 2022
    This game has one of the worst bot problems I've seen in a game in years, and I've played a lot of MMOS in my time, b2p and p2p and f2p. They are doing Islands Soul quests, they are in T3 chaos dungeons, gear honing, island sou quests literally everywhere, warping all over maps, getting in the way, kill stealing in lowby areas, and making their way into 50+ areas.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,001
    Tiller said:
    This game has one of the worst bot problems I've seen in a game in years, and I've played a lot of MMOS in my time, b2p and p2p and f2p. They are doing Islands Soul quests, they are in T3 chaos dungeons, gear honing, island sou quests literally everywhere, warping all over maps, getting in the way, kill stealing in lowby areas, and making their way into 50+ areas.
    Curious what region and server?

    I've still not really noticed any bots yet, but perhaps they aren't around where I travel.

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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,463
    Kyleran said:
    Tiller said:
    This game has one of the worst bot problems I've seen in a game in years, and I've played a lot of MMOS in my time, b2p and p2p and f2p. They are doing Islands Soul quests, they are in T3 chaos dungeons, gear honing, island sou quests literally everywhere, warping all over maps, getting in the way, kill stealing in lowby areas, and making their way into 50+ areas.
    Curious what region and server?

    I've still not really noticed any bots yet, but perhaps they aren't around where I travel.

    Might not be as bad on Euro servers. West coast is bad.
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  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Tiller said:
    Kyleran said:
    Tiller said:
    This game has one of the worst bot problems I've seen in a game in years, and I've played a lot of MMOS in my time, b2p and p2p and f2p. They are doing Islands Soul quests, they are in T3 chaos dungeons, gear honing, island sou quests literally everywhere, warping all over maps, getting in the way, kill stealing in lowby areas, and making their way into 50+ areas.
    Curious what region and server?

    I've still not really noticed any bots yet, but perhaps they aren't around where I travel.

    Might not be as bad on Euro servers. West coast is bad.

    So is East coast.



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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,001
    Mendel said:
    Tiller said:
    Kyleran said:
    Tiller said:
    This game has one of the worst bot problems I've seen in a game in years, and I've played a lot of MMOS in my time, b2p and p2p and f2p. They are doing Islands Soul quests, they are in T3 chaos dungeons, gear honing, island sou quests literally everywhere, warping all over maps, getting in the way, kill stealing in lowby areas, and making their way into 50+ areas.
    Curious what region and server?

    I've still not really noticed any bots yet, but perhaps they aren't around where I travel.

    Might not be as bad on Euro servers. West coast is bad.

    So is East coast.



    I'm going bot hunting tonight. US East.

    ;)
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  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Kyleran said:
    Mendel said:
    Tiller said:
    Kyleran said:
    Tiller said:
    This game has one of the worst bot problems I've seen in a game in years, and I've played a lot of MMOS in my time, b2p and p2p and f2p. They are doing Islands Soul quests, they are in T3 chaos dungeons, gear honing, island sou quests literally everywhere, warping all over maps, getting in the way, kill stealing in lowby areas, and making their way into 50+ areas.
    Curious what region and server?

    I've still not really noticed any bots yet, but perhaps they aren't around where I travel.

    Might not be as bad on Euro servers. West coast is bad.

    So is East coast.



    I'm going bot hunting tonight. US East.

    ;)

    I believe that's what is known as a "target rich environment".  B)



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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,463
    Kyleran said:
    Mendel said:
    Tiller said:
    Kyleran said:
    Tiller said:
    This game has one of the worst bot problems I've seen in a game in years, and I've played a lot of MMOS in my time, b2p and p2p and f2p. They are doing Islands Soul quests, they are in T3 chaos dungeons, gear honing, island sou quests literally everywhere, warping all over maps, getting in the way, kill stealing in lowby areas, and making their way into 50+ areas.
    Curious what region and server?

    I've still not really noticed any bots yet, but perhaps they aren't around where I travel.

    Might not be as bad on Euro servers. West coast is bad.

    So is East coast.



    I'm going bot hunting tonight. US East.

    ;)

    It will get old fast, I gave up reporting them. The spammers I just block or close chat. There are just too many.
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  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,390
    Tiller said:
    Kyleran said:
    Mendel said:
    Tiller said:
    Kyleran said:
    Tiller said:
    This game has one of the worst bot problems I've seen in a game in years, and I've played a lot of MMOS in my time, b2p and p2p and f2p. They are doing Islands Soul quests, they are in T3 chaos dungeons, gear honing, island sou quests literally everywhere, warping all over maps, getting in the way, kill stealing in lowby areas, and making their way into 50+ areas.
    Curious what region and server?

    I've still not really noticed any bots yet, but perhaps they aren't around where I travel.

    Might not be as bad on Euro servers. West coast is bad.

    So is East coast.



    I'm going bot hunting tonight. US East.

    ;)

    It will get old fast, I gave up reporting them. The spammers I just block or close chat. There are just too many.
    What is the point of playing an MMORPG when even the very basic thing you can do is hampered by people just shutting their chat window. You'll only be able to talk to bots.
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  • BLNXBLNX Member UncommonPosts: 275
    cheyane said:
    Tiller said:
    Kyleran said:
    Mendel said:
    Tiller said:
    Kyleran said:
    Tiller said:
    This game has one of the worst bot problems I've seen in a game in years, and I've played a lot of MMOS in my time, b2p and p2p and f2p. They are doing Islands Soul quests, they are in T3 chaos dungeons, gear honing, island sou quests literally everywhere, warping all over maps, getting in the way, kill stealing in lowby areas, and making their way into 50+ areas.
    Curious what region and server?

    I've still not really noticed any bots yet, but perhaps they aren't around where I travel.

    Might not be as bad on Euro servers. West coast is bad.

    So is East coast.



    I'm going bot hunting tonight. US East.

    ;)

    It will get old fast, I gave up reporting them. The spammers I just block or close chat. There are just too many.
    What is the point of playing an MMORPG when even the very basic thing you can do is hampered by people just shutting their chat window. You'll only be able to talk to bots.
    You guys don't talk to the bots? They are the only ones that talk to me  :(
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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,463
    cheyane said:
    Tiller said:
    Kyleran said:
    Mendel said:
    Tiller said:
    Kyleran said:
    Tiller said:
    This game has one of the worst bot problems I've seen in a game in years, and I've played a lot of MMOS in my time, b2p and p2p and f2p. They are doing Islands Soul quests, they are in T3 chaos dungeons, gear honing, island sou quests literally everywhere, warping all over maps, getting in the way, kill stealing in lowby areas, and making their way into 50+ areas.
    Curious what region and server?

    I've still not really noticed any bots yet, but perhaps they aren't around where I travel.

    Might not be as bad on Euro servers. West coast is bad.

    So is East coast.



    I'm going bot hunting tonight. US East.

    ;)

    It will get old fast, I gave up reporting them. The spammers I just block or close chat. There are just too many.
    What is the point of playing an MMORPG when even the very basic thing you can do is hampered by people just shutting their chat window. You'll only be able to talk to bots.

    Some people are saying that if you chat in local bots will sometimes start spamming you in IMs. As for chat in this game, minus the bots it's not too toxic when it's clear of spam. Mostly people helping each other, lfg ect. I think the bots are chasing the trolls away since it's harder to troll if no one can read what you said in between bot spam.
    Kyleran
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