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"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
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All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
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You may think that it's a stupid rule, and you may even say that it's a stupid rule. But if you try to claim that it's cheating without support from neither players nor organizers then you're just plain wrong because you're not in a position to set the rules for their game.
What can be lacking is any evidence the item was earned in game vs the cash shop and in some cases (looking at you, ESO) cash shops not only contain items unobtainable by game play, they also can't be bought and have to be gambled for.
The more I ponder this the angrier I become and when I do eventually walk away this will be a significant reason.
I'll also try very hard in the future to avoid playing any game with a similar gambling based mechanic.
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The reason tactics like these continue to exist is because people continue to support them. Its just like paying to enter a beta, its the normal thing now. It doesn't matter what a company tries to do, if people support it, it will exist. Just like boosts in TBC Classic and the cash shop....I'm sorry 'rumored' since Blizzard hasn't confirmed anything yet or whatever.
As I said, I hadn't really considered it in this light, but I think it has some merit as a comparison.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
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An Item shop, does not copy an original and sell you the created duplicate, they sell you an original item.
No different than if more than one player earned an item, by doing whatever task it took to earn said item, IE: No different than if the item was looted from a chest. In the case of a item shop, the task is simply "pay" but the item is a original, none the less, as it is not a duplicate of another item, is a directly generated item.
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So ride that fluorescent puce bear mount proudly, cowboy.. It will never (defined as next couple of years) be available in that shade of that color again!
(Yes I'm talking about ESO.)
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It's not cheating because they say it isn't.
It still exactly resembles when you could enter in cheat codes to get items, only now you give the company your credit card to spawn them.
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
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Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/However you are right and it is worse than duping for the reason you stated.
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
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The most popular being what MUDs have done with item databases.
There is no existing original item so to speak. It's code that generates it from an item database. So even the first item ever spawned in the game is a copy made from the code.
Basicly the game creates an item instance.
Here's a Unity Tutorial.
https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/[email protected]/manual/Tutorials/02-PlayingWithRuntimeItem.html
Here's how object files are handled in MUDs.
https://www.circlemud.org/cdp/building/building-5.html
Duping is just being able to make more of things. It could be gold or items.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duping_(video_games)
However as was pointed out this is even worse than duping as they will sell you items that are not even in the game and you don't even need an "original". IE Cash shop exclusives.
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer
Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/And regardless if you like it or not, everything in the cash shop is technically in the game as the cash shop is part of the game.
As for Cash shop being part of the game. You're right and it's why I avoid them like the plague. I'm not going to stop it. I want a game to not be about who throws the most money at it.
To me it's like typing in the cheat codes to spawn items only now you give the company a credit card to spawn the items. Get the gold, etc
Someone wants to be pro cash shop fill yur boots. It's not me.
The novelty of the Game Genie lasted for about a week with me as a kid.
And I paid for ALL the cheats with it. Not just a mount. LOL
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
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Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/Well good discussion.
The part that baffles me is how it flies over so many heads when studios say "only selling cosmetic".
So pick ANY item your character is wearing in a game that you earned,well these devs are taking that away and saying "if you want it back,you have to pay us" lmao.
This would be like shoe stores selling you shoes with no laces"give them time" this likely happens eventually.I mean we already get $2 in soles in our shoes and have to pay extra to actually have a mildly decent insole.
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