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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 21,129
    Iselin said:
    Gorwe said:
    Iselin said:
    Meanwhile in Diablo 3 land... Blizzard just had to hotfix an item that was causing anyone the uses it to disconnect randomly and frequently.

    Another item is causing horrible lag with the FOTD build, the new and improved Firebird set, but no fix in sight for that one. This one affected me.

    And some people have needed to resort to a drastic workaround of replacing a game sound file with an edited version of it that disables all game sound as the only guaranteed way for them to not have frequent game freezes that can last for up to 10 seconds before it resumes... deadly in HC mode. Luckily I haven't needed to do that one.

    That last Fmod.DLL problem has been going on for a full year.

    Be scared of D2 Resurrected. Be very scared :)

    AAA my ass. 

    But why? D3 is Blizz, D2:Remaster is Vicarious Visions. And VV has a good track record. Ofc, it's healthy to have a dose of skepticism. Just don't get consumed by paranoia.
    So you're putting faith in another studio owned by Activision for 16 years and merged into Blizzard earlier this year? OK then, glass half-full guy :)

    Because they aren't the same teams. You don't have to put faith in anything. I sure don't. Their results speak for the quality of their work potential. Tony Hawk fans have been very pleased at the recent remake. I don't need to be optimistic or pessimistic because I haven't given them any money. If it's at least decent enough I'll buy it. If not then I'll pass. For me, it's really that simple.
    Gorwe
    traveller, interloper, anomaly, iteration


  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 5,044
    Nilden said:
    Am I the only one who remembers?

    Warcraft 3: Refunded

    Among all the other crap that this company has pulled...


    That was done in house with tons of art outsourced to east Asia.  That classic team got themselves fired and vicarious Visions has been handed the reigns to classic.  VV's remasters have all been received quite well.

    VV is also keeping the underlying (logic) code and converting it to 3D with a renderer.  No one is telling you to buy it, but comparing it with WC3:Refunded makes you sound uneducated on the matter.
    UtinniTorvalGorwe
  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,217
    Utinni said:

    Nilden said:

    Am I the only one who remembers?

    Warcraft 3: Refunded

    Among all the other crap that this company has pulled...





    I can't tell if you don't know what happened with WC3:R or you haven't researched anything about D2:R. Both?
    https://www.warcraft3refunded.com/

    Also the most downvoted game ever on metacritic.



    They dropped the ball. It was horrible. Blizzard released this. 

    It's such an utter disrespect of the game and the fans. So much so that if I pirate an older version it works better and has more features.

    Don't worry I'm sure a lot of people are looking the other way for the D2:R hype train. I love Diablo 2 as well. The Blizzard that made D2 is long gone. Instead you got Bobby Kotick raking in millions while they fire people in record years of profit.

    Hey D2:R a 20 year old remaster from the guys that did Spyro and it was good and this looks great.

    Can't wait to fork over 40 bucks to the company that...



    Don't you have phones? You think you do but you don't. Blitzchung. etc etc...

    Yeah I did my research. I used to buy every Blizzard game day one and spent hundreds of hours playing these games. 

    You will have to excuse me if I am skeptical and unwilling to support them. Even if D2:R turns out to be amazing I still can't support a company that did what it did to WC:3. Among other things.

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  • GreenSage39GreenSage39 Member UncommonPosts: 121
    Another coin in the bucket that all millenial devs can do is rehash.

    *coughs*
  • GreenSage39GreenSage39 Member UncommonPosts: 121
    I hope they don't open this for modding. Far too many unicorn gamers as it is.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 15,396
    Torval said:
    Iselin said:
    Gorwe said:
    Iselin said:
    Meanwhile in Diablo 3 land... Blizzard just had to hotfix an item that was causing anyone the uses it to disconnect randomly and frequently.

    Another item is causing horrible lag with the FOTD build, the new and improved Firebird set, but no fix in sight for that one. This one affected me.

    And some people have needed to resort to a drastic workaround of replacing a game sound file with an edited version of it that disables all game sound as the only guaranteed way for them to not have frequent game freezes that can last for up to 10 seconds before it resumes... deadly in HC mode. Luckily I haven't needed to do that one.

    That last Fmod.DLL problem has been going on for a full year.

    Be scared of D2 Resurrected. Be very scared :)

    AAA my ass. 

    But why? D3 is Blizz, D2:Remaster is Vicarious Visions. And VV has a good track record. Ofc, it's healthy to have a dose of skepticism. Just don't get consumed by paranoia.
    So you're putting faith in another studio owned by Activision for 16 years and merged into Blizzard earlier this year? OK then, glass half-full guy :)

    Because they aren't the same teams. You don't have to put faith in anything. I sure don't. Their results speak for the quality of their work potential. Tony Hawk fans have been very pleased at the recent remake. I don't need to be optimistic or pessimistic because I haven't given them any money. If it's at least decent enough I'll buy it. If not then I'll pass. For me, it's really that simple.
    I hope you're right for the sake of those looking forward to this. I'm just salty because they have broken D3 with all kinds of weird performance glitches over the past year. It was fine before that.

    Those damn unsupervised interns!

    :)
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  • Mars_OMGMars_OMG Member EpicPosts: 3,311
    I feel blizzard has the ability to get back to their roots, i'm looking forward to D4, I played D1 but that's a secret between friends ...-_-
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  • shipcommandershipcommander Newbie CommonPosts: 12
    Probably one of the few games that can keep me interested and busy.
    Sovrath
  • GorweGorwe Member Posts: 506
    edited April 7
    Nilden said:
    Utinni said:

    Nilden said:

    Am I the only one who remembers?

    Warcraft 3: Refunded

    Among all the other crap that this company has pulled...





    I can't tell if you don't know what happened with WC3:R or you haven't researched anything about D2:R. Both?
    https://www.warcraft3refunded.com/

    Also the most downvoted game ever on metacritic.



    They dropped the ball. It was horrible. Blizzard released this. 

    It's such an utter disrespect of the game and the fans. So much so that if I pirate an older version it works better and has more features.

    Don't worry I'm sure a lot of people are looking the other way for the D2:R hype train. I love Diablo 2 as well. The Blizzard that made D2 is long gone. Instead you got Bobby Kotick raking in millions while they fire people in record years of profit.

    Hey D2:R a 20 year old remaster from the guys that did Spyro and it was good and this looks great.

    Can't wait to fork over 40 bucks to the company that...



    Don't you have phones? You think you do but you don't. Blitzchung. etc etc...

    Yeah I did my research. I used to buy every Blizzard game day one and spent hundreds of hours playing these games. 

    You will have to excuse me if I am skeptical and unwilling to support them. Even if D2:R turns out to be amazing I still can't support a company that did what it did to WC:3. Among other things.

    But this isn't Blizzard half assing it. It's Vicarious Visions and their legacy speaks for itself. Again, skepticism is good, but this borders on paranoia.

    For an example of them not halfassing it, look at character models. VV are willing to change them and admit mistake. Blizz would probably laugh it off. Or try to sell you alternate models.
  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 21,129
    Iselin said:
    Torval said:
    Iselin said:
    Gorwe said:
    Iselin said:
    Meanwhile in Diablo 3 land... Blizzard just had to hotfix an item that was causing anyone the uses it to disconnect randomly and frequently.

    Another item is causing horrible lag with the FOTD build, the new and improved Firebird set, but no fix in sight for that one. This one affected me.

    And some people have needed to resort to a drastic workaround of replacing a game sound file with an edited version of it that disables all game sound as the only guaranteed way for them to not have frequent game freezes that can last for up to 10 seconds before it resumes... deadly in HC mode. Luckily I haven't needed to do that one.

    That last Fmod.DLL problem has been going on for a full year.

    Be scared of D2 Resurrected. Be very scared :)

    AAA my ass. 

    But why? D3 is Blizz, D2:Remaster is Vicarious Visions. And VV has a good track record. Ofc, it's healthy to have a dose of skepticism. Just don't get consumed by paranoia.
    So you're putting faith in another studio owned by Activision for 16 years and merged into Blizzard earlier this year? OK then, glass half-full guy :)

    Because they aren't the same teams. You don't have to put faith in anything. I sure don't. Their results speak for the quality of their work potential. Tony Hawk fans have been very pleased at the recent remake. I don't need to be optimistic or pessimistic because I haven't given them any money. If it's at least decent enough I'll buy it. If not then I'll pass. For me, it's really that simple.
    I hope you're right for the sake of those looking forward to this. I'm just salty because they have broken D3 with all kinds of weird performance glitches over the past year. It was fine before that.

    Those damn unsupervised interns!

    :)

    I haven't given them money, and won't, until I see the results so I'm not too worried. If I really wanted a copy of the game I could dig out my old discs or torrent new files for them.

    My post kind of sounds like I don't have any issues with Blizzard and that isn't true. I just didn't want to digress, but I will here quickly. I have issues with the broken D3 and it makes me shake my head. I have some issues with WoW too, but mostly around some corner cutting designs in more recent expansions.

    It isn't just Blizzard either that seems okay with mediocre performance/quality. I have had no small issues with ESOs network and client performance lately. I have insanely long loading screens that often result in my getting kicked back to login. Then, I was doing the anniversary event and crashed to desktop when interacting with it. Frustrating to say the least.

    Maybe I'm selling out but everything seems fraught with some issue or another so I just take it as it comes and try and make better choices.
    traveller, interloper, anomaly, iteration


  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 15,396
    Torval said:
    Iselin said:
    Torval said:
    Iselin said:
    Gorwe said:
    Iselin said:
    Meanwhile in Diablo 3 land... Blizzard just had to hotfix an item that was causing anyone the uses it to disconnect randomly and frequently.

    Another item is causing horrible lag with the FOTD build, the new and improved Firebird set, but no fix in sight for that one. This one affected me.

    And some people have needed to resort to a drastic workaround of replacing a game sound file with an edited version of it that disables all game sound as the only guaranteed way for them to not have frequent game freezes that can last for up to 10 seconds before it resumes... deadly in HC mode. Luckily I haven't needed to do that one.

    That last Fmod.DLL problem has been going on for a full year.

    Be scared of D2 Resurrected. Be very scared :)

    AAA my ass. 

    But why? D3 is Blizz, D2:Remaster is Vicarious Visions. And VV has a good track record. Ofc, it's healthy to have a dose of skepticism. Just don't get consumed by paranoia.
    So you're putting faith in another studio owned by Activision for 16 years and merged into Blizzard earlier this year? OK then, glass half-full guy :)

    Because they aren't the same teams. You don't have to put faith in anything. I sure don't. Their results speak for the quality of their work potential. Tony Hawk fans have been very pleased at the recent remake. I don't need to be optimistic or pessimistic because I haven't given them any money. If it's at least decent enough I'll buy it. If not then I'll pass. For me, it's really that simple.
    I hope you're right for the sake of those looking forward to this. I'm just salty because they have broken D3 with all kinds of weird performance glitches over the past year. It was fine before that.

    Those damn unsupervised interns!

    :)

    I haven't given them money, and won't, until I see the results so I'm not too worried. If I really wanted a copy of the game I could dig out my old discs or torrent new files for them.

    My post kind of sounds like I don't have any issues with Blizzard and that isn't true. I just didn't want to digress, but I will here quickly. I have issues with the broken D3 and it makes me shake my head. I have some issues with WoW too, but mostly around some corner cutting designs in more recent expansions.

    It isn't just Blizzard either that seems okay with mediocre performance/quality. I have had no small issues with ESOs network and client performance lately. I have insanely long loading screens that often result in my getting kicked back to login. Then, I was doing the anniversary event and crashed to desktop when interacting with it. Frustrating to say the least.

    Maybe I'm selling out but everything seems fraught with some issue or another so I just take it as it comes and try and make better choices.
    No you're right and I get where you're coming from. I mean... we used to do the same thing with Bioware and EA "It's not EA developing this it's Bioware"... until we couldn't do that any more.

    I don't know how hands on or hands off Blizz is with VV in particular when entrusted to rework an iconic Blizz game. I'm not privy to inner corporate workings. I do wonder though why a company that has been under Activision but separate from Blizzard since 2005 was merged into Bizzard this past January. Surely that has to do with the inner reporting mechanisms for D2.

    Like I said, some are really excited about this D2 remake (I'm not) so I don't want to rain on their parade (even though I kind of did with my post lol.) I'm just not so sure this is VV still doing their VV thing when at the very least they are now reporting directly to Rod Ferguson (formerly of Gears of War fame and head of the Diablo Franchise as of early 2020) at Blizz.

    Torval
    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 4,222
    Talking about Warcraft 3: Reforged, did that thing ever get fixed? Its the only Blizz title I don’t own and it feels kinda weird.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
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    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...



    'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless. 

    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • AkulasAkulas Member RarePosts: 2,742
    People wanting personal loot and standardized levelling says the direction the game is likely to go.

    This isn't a signature, you just think it is.

  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,217
    lahnmir said:
    Talking about Warcraft 3: Reforged, did that thing ever get fixed? Its the only Blizz title I don’t own and it feels kinda weird.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    Short answer is no.


    lahnmir

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  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,480
    The real thing I'm more worried about is them essentially forcing you to take the remaster even if you own the original just like they did with WC3. There's always going to be that group that will never like a remaster regardless how good it is and I'm honestly tired of this 'all-or-nothing' approach companies keep trying to shoehorn. But people's standards continue to plummet so choices get fewer and fewer.
  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 5,044
    Albatroes said:
    The real thing I'm more worried about is them essentially forcing you to take the remaster even if you own the original just like they did with WC3. There's always going to be that group that will never like a remaster regardless how good it is and I'm honestly tired of this 'all-or-nothing' approach companies keep trying to shoehorn. But people's standards continue to plummet so choices get fewer and fewer.
    They've already addressed this. The remaster installs in an entirely different location.  Your classic mods and saves are perfectly safe.  No one is forced to download a modern client for classic D2, as that was an idiotic thing the old classic team did for WC3:Refunded.  Only D2R players need the new client.  They each have their own ladders though as D2:Classic won't run on modern BNET.

    Anyway, I managed to get into the alpha and it certainly looks great.  Load times are a bit slower than I'd like.  The underlying game engine is certainly dated but it's probably best that they didn't try to "improve" combat flow and such. 

    I'm not sure how much testing I'll do though.  The game is an instant purchase once I know the top mods will work for non ladder play.  I don't expect them to enable the /players command on the ladder and so I'm not really interested in ever returning to ladder without changes.

    The biggest thing I miss from mods is the charm inventory space.  The image below shows how the inventory can be expanded but only allow charms to work in the bottom rows.  

     


  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 21,129
    What makes it an instant purchase for you over just playing the classic version? If the game play isn't improved and the engine feels dated and load times are little bit longish, that doesn't inspire me much to be honest.
    traveller, interloper, anomaly, iteration


  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 5,044
    Torval said:
    What makes it an instant purchase for you over just playing the classic version? If the game play isn't improved and the engine feels dated and load times are little bit longish, that doesn't inspire me much to be honest.
    Because the dated graphics have become a big turnoff
    Torval
  • GorweGorwe Member Posts: 506
    The character models still seem very unlike their D2 counterparts. They need work imo.
  • coretex666coretex666 Member EpicPosts: 3,974


    Some early views by one of the D2 streamers.
  • GorweGorwe Member Posts: 506
    Yes, Rhykker has 5+ hours of Amazon play.
  • GreenSage39GreenSage39 Member UncommonPosts: 121
    Gorwe said:
    Yes, Rhykker has 5+ hours of Amazon play.

    Wonder Woman would like to see you in her office. NOW.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 15,396
    It seems to be getting rave reviews about changing the looks to what is 2021 standard without touching the soul/gameplay to such an extent that players are accepting it as the D2 they remember while looking totally different... that's voodoo!
    coretex666
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  • coretex666coretex666 Member EpicPosts: 3,974
    Iselin said:
    It seems to be getting rave reviews about changing the looks to what is 2021 standard without touching the soul/gameplay to such an extent that players are accepting it as the D2 they remember while looking totally different... that's voodoo!
    I think Blizz is doing the right thing aiming to keep the game as true to the original as possible.
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