just trying to catch up, but this is what I've taken away so far:
We don't know exactly what happened, but we "know" that whatever happened spells D-O-O-M!
We don't know how finances have been used, but we "know" they've been used in ways we don't like!
The game is dead, but the game is still in development!
I think the only concrete thing we've got is that (at least, so far) "shill" is a noun or verb though it's debatable what level English class that is taught in.
I've got no skin in the game on this one. I followed the sparse posts over the years and seen plenty of posts where @Renfail advised people to not buy in to the game until they were comfortable with the risks. As a result, I've held off and will continue to take a "wait and see" approach on this one.
Either way: I'm hopeful that those who are invested get a game they enjoy whether it gets rebranded as a new IP or not.
Yup, you've got it pretty much nailed.
Actually you both forgot an integral part of the evil scheme:
- We “know” that the discouraging of spending money on the project, by Renfail on these forums and the statement on their website, was actually a clever use of reverse psychology to trick poor customers.
Their wickedness truly knows no bounds.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
You say this in jest I assume. Ask yourself this question. Do you think Renfail was purposely trying to sabotage the games revenue stream when he said that? Do you think he was trying to steer people away from giving money, while at the same time were taking money?
Its a pretty classic sales technique. Sales person pretends their position is stronger then it is, the person walks away. Both people could actually want the sale but its all a game of who will flinch first.
just trying to catch up, but this is what I've taken away so far:
We don't know exactly what happened, but we "know" that whatever happened spells D-O-O-M!
We don't know how finances have been used, but we "know" they've been used in ways we don't like!
The game is dead, but the game is still in development!
I think the only concrete thing we've got is that (at least, so far) "shill" is a noun or verb though it's debatable what level English class that is taught in.
I've got no skin in the game on this one. I followed the sparse posts over the years and seen plenty of posts where @Renfail advised people to not buy in to the game until they were comfortable with the risks. As a result, I've held off and will continue to take a "wait and see" approach on this one.
Either way: I'm hopeful that those who are invested get a game they enjoy whether it gets rebranded as a new IP or not.
Yup, you've got it pretty much nailed.
Actually you both forgot an integral part of the evil scheme:
- We “know” that the discouraging of spending money on the project, by Renfail on these forums and the statement on their website, was actually a clever use of reverse psychology to trick poor customers.
Their wickedness truly knows no bounds.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
You say this in jest I assume. Ask yourself this question. Do you think Renfail was purposely trying to sabotage the games revenue stream when he said that? Do you think he was trying to steer people away from giving money, while at the same time were taking money?
Its a pretty classic sales technique. Sales person pretends their position is stronger then it is, the person walks away. Both people could actually want the sale but its all a game of who will flinch first.
Well, the jest is in the ‘knowing’ part, just like the post I replied too. All of it could be perfectly true, we just don’t have any evidence of it (yet). So I am jesting about taking a firm stance, which coincidentally always is an extremely negative one coated in faux outrage.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
What news were you expecting? They announced Renfail moved on, game development continues, apparently with a planned IP change.
What's still pending?
Well, to be fair, I think that around 3 weeks ago @elloa said she would answer any questions and I believe there were some that were asked. Perhaps she answered them in private but I haven't seen anything posted.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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Where these five CEO/Owners, have something like 10 min to listen to a pitch, and decide if they think this is legit or not?
and here gamers are fussing on if they think something is legit or not for years on end.
Hummmm..
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Its a pretty classic sales technique. Sales person pretends their position is stronger then it is, the person walks away. Both people could actually want the sale but its all a game of who will flinch first.
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
What's still pending?
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
Where these five CEO/Owners, have something like 10 min to listen to a pitch, and decide if they think this is legit or not?
and here gamers are fussing on if they think something is legit or not for years on end.
Hummmm..