@Quizzical What will this do for platforms like Staida? I remember awhile back during the initial stadia hype, you letting us know that latency would be a huge issue. That was platform breaking in my eyes. Do you think decentralized blockchain nodes could make these streaming platforms viable?
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Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Helluva a lot quicker than getting data from la or NYC when you live in Michigan.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
For file storage, Bittorrent is decentralized file storage and streaming. It works well enough.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
The problem for something like Stadia is that you need to be close to a node that can render the game for you. That requires fairly potent hardware, and far more so than a storage node that doesn't necessarily feature a powerful CPU and likely doesn't have a GPU at all.
It also requires that the game you want to play happen to already be installed the node that will run your game. In a data center, you can have a bunch of games installed on each of a bunch of nodes. Even if a given server only has 10% of the games that the service hosts installed, the data center can still pick a server that has your game as the one that you'll run it from.
If try to have just a single server be its own data center, then it has to have every single supported game already installed. Making you wait for it to download and install a game every time you want to play something is unacceptable. Cloud storage to download your files on the fly works fine if those files are a few megabytes. It does not work for a 50 GB game installation.
If game streaming is really going to take off, having the game data center built into the ISP's network is probably the optimal way to do it. That way, you could have both shorter physical distances and fewer hops, both of which help with both latency and reliability. ISPs haven't yet shown any real interest in doing so, however. At least for now, ISPs probably want for game streaming not to be popular, as it uses so much bandwidth.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
But the game would still not run on blockchain. At best blockchain could be used to provide some support services, but it's not a technique that could be used to run and stream games.
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Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
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Present day platforms allow companies to buy their own wholly controlled decentralized blockchain storage chunks. Those chunks are a faction of the cost of say a amazon cloud storage. From there how a company develops their ecosystem on top of that purchased chunk is in their company's hands. Think of the blockchains as open source development platforms, Unity.
There could conceivably be some clever role for blockchain elsewhere in the service. Connecting a gamer to a server, a gamer paying for access, or the "server" provider in a decentralized service getting paid all need to be secure, but don't need to happen so fast that a delay of a second or so would particularly matter.
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
As pieces of a game it makes far more sense, and is already utilized in some games. You could utilize blockchain for characters, currency, items, etc. Gameplay mechanics themselves, or a video can't run on blockchain.
When you go to play a game by streaming it from someone else's gaming desktop, you pick the game you want to play, and the service looks for a free computer that supports that game and is near you. Once it finds it, it launches the game on the other person's computer and starts streaming it from his to yours. Ideally, it finds something very near you, such as in the same town and using the same ISP.
So what does blockchain have to do with this? For the game streaming itself, nothing. Even for the matchmaking, probably still nothing. But why would you ever make your desktop available for someone else to stream games off of, rather than using it for mining or some such? Because you get paid to, of course. Could there be some role of blockchain in allowing the person playing the game to pay the person hosting it? I don't know, but it isn't immediately obvious that the answer is "no".
Running a game off of whoever has it installed has more to do with older torrents than blockchain, of course. But that might make it possible to mostly stream games off of a computer that is near you, rather than hundreds of miles and several extra server hops away. Or it might be completely impractical for one reason or another.
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Tulip bulbs and seashells aren't out of the realm of possibility either.
Once upon a time....
The real point is that it's not how they use it now, it's how it will be used in the future.
As an example, G. W. Bush passed the law that allowed tracking of everything because of 9-11.
And it was abused, laws broken, lies told, to spy on Donald Trump behind false accusations paid for by a political opponent.
What makes you think that this transaction system won't be evolved into THE SYSTEM of currency?
Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not against Blockchain technology, but against it not being restricted before it's too late. Same for Cryptocurrencies.
I just want people to be aware and for this issue to be resolved.
And no, I do not trust the tech giants.
Once upon a time....
But it didn't work because cryptocurrencies are actually a commodity, one that doesn't actually exist in the real world.
Once upon a time....
https://www.paymentsjournal.com/digital-yuan-china-introduces-the-anti-bitcoin/
Uses a centralized ledger backed by the government and definitely not anonymous.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon