[...] Let me put it this way,NOTHING he shows us is factual gameplay unless it is actual realistic GAME PLAY,with actual players and actual realistic scenes and not some prefabbed scene with a few repeated/duplicated assets.
I agree with you that they aren't showing enough gameplay to non-backers (in the forums we're seeing 1000+ ARCs videos, Cherry Keep sieges, backers' published in-game videos, etc.). The last gameplay video they've posted publicly was this one, which is 2 years old (starts at 19:00) :
Two years old?! This is why that huge question mark is there, players do not expect huge leaps every time they make a video, just a demonstration that work is being done. SC does this, too much in my opinion, but you do need at least couple of videos a year.
When the studio is satisfied with their forest biome I hope they'll showcase some PvP in this environment.
Can you give us examples of lies you accuse the studio of?
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Apparently, no one in the entire organization under Mark Jacobs was trustworthy enough to trust with refunds. What does that say about both MJ and CSE?
Can you give us examples of lies you accuse the studio of?
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Apparently, no one in the entire organization under Mark Jacobs was trustworthy enough to trust with refunds. What does that say about both MJ and CSE?
It has nothing to do with actual Trust. My job was a foreman on site, and while my boss trusted me to not only make, but also sign off on multi million dollar purchase orders, I never once had to process a refund or return, that was that the accountants did.
Sometimes it's just an issue of "Not your job"
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Can you give us examples of lies you accuse the studio of?
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Apparently, no one in the entire organization under Mark Jacobs was trustworthy enough to trust with refunds. What does that say about both MJ and CSE?
It has nothing to do with actual Trust. My job was a foreman on site, and while my boss trusted me to not only make, but also sign off on multi million dollar purchase orders, I never once had to process a refund or return, that was that the accountants did.
Sometimes it's just an issue of "Not your job"
I do have to chime in and say it is weird that the head of a studio is personally doing refunds. Of all the time management issues going on, is he validating employee parking too?
I'm just saying, that is just so confusing that it isn't delegated. Unless he doesn't contribute much day to day at this point?
When you read him on Massively threads... he says stuff like, sorry, couldn't get into the office to process more refunds. It's like a Mom and Pop business.
Can you give us examples of lies you accuse the studio of?
Pulling up a chair and grabbing some popcorn.
Puts out a couple of Cokes on the table to share and takes a bowl of that fine looking popcorn.
Waits for some good arguments why manually processing anything of this magnitude in a professional business project isn't worthy of scathing criticism and rebuke. Taking notes!
Apparently, no one in the entire organization under Mark Jacobs was trustworthy enough to trust with refunds. What does that say about both MJ and CSE?
It has nothing to do with actual Trust. My job was a foreman on site, and while my boss trusted me to not only make, but also sign off on multi million dollar purchase orders, I never once had to process a refund or return, that was that the accountants did.
Sometimes it's just an issue of "Not your job"
I do have to chime in and say it is weird that the head of a studio is personally doing refunds. Of all the time management issues going on, is he validating employee parking too?
I'm just saying, that is just so confusing that it isn't delegated. Unless he doesn't contribute much day to day at this point?
When you read him on Massively threads... he says stuff like, sorry, couldn't get into the office to process more refunds. It's like a Mom and Pop business.
Well I suppose if they just have devs and artists working on the game then MJ would by default be the best person to deal with shitty non-production related stuff like this.
Can you give us examples of lies you accuse the studio of?
Pulling up a chair and grabbing some popcorn.
Puts out a couple of Cokes on the table to share and takes a bowl of that fine looking popcorn.
Waits for some good arguments why manually processing anything of this magnitude in a professional business project isn't worthy of scathing criticism and rebuke. Taking notes!
Apparently, no one in the entire organization under Mark Jacobs was trustworthy enough to trust with refunds. What does that say about both MJ and CSE?
It has nothing to do with actual Trust. My job was a foreman on site, and while my boss trusted me to not only make, but also sign off on multi million dollar purchase orders, I never once had to process a refund or return, that was that the accountants did.
Sometimes it's just an issue of "Not your job"
I do have to chime in and say it is weird that the head of a studio is personally doing refunds. Of all the time management issues going on, is he validating employee parking too?
I'm just saying, that is just so confusing that it isn't delegated. Unless he doesn't contribute much day to day at this point?
When you read him on Massively threads... he says stuff like, sorry, couldn't get into the office to process more refunds. It's like a Mom and Pop business.
Well I suppose if they just have devs and artists working on the game then MJ would by default be the best person to deal with shitty non-production related stuff like this.
Can you give us examples of lies you accuse the studio of?
Pulling up a chair and grabbing some popcorn.
Puts out a couple of Cokes on the table to share and takes a bowl of that fine looking popcorn.
Waits for some good arguments why manually processing anything of this magnitude in a professional business project isn't worthy of scathing criticism and rebuke. Taking notes!
Apparently, no one in the entire organization under Mark Jacobs was trustworthy enough to trust with refunds. What does that say about both MJ and CSE?
It has nothing to do with actual Trust. My job was a foreman on site, and while my boss trusted me to not only make, but also sign off on multi million dollar purchase orders, I never once had to process a refund or return, that was that the accountants did.
Sometimes it's just an issue of "Not your job"
So the CEO of your construction company did the accountant work? What were you a 5 person mom and pop op? Because that is what is happening here. The accountants (if there are any) aren't doing that apparently. The CEO is doing it all. The above points by myself and Mighty Unclean stand.
Hey, MJ uses Taxpro... and manually enters every receipt... including employee taxi fare. I'm sure he is also the HR person too, and the janitor... spotless bowls
Can you give us examples of lies you accuse the studio of?
Pulling up a chair and grabbing some popcorn.
Puts out a couple of Cokes on the table to share and takes a bowl of that fine looking popcorn.
Waits for some good arguments why manually processing anything of this magnitude in a professional business project isn't worthy of scathing criticism and rebuke. Taking notes!
Apparently, no one in the entire organization under Mark Jacobs was trustworthy enough to trust with refunds. What does that say about both MJ and CSE?
It has nothing to do with actual Trust. My job was a foreman on site, and while my boss trusted me to not only make, but also sign off on multi million dollar purchase orders, I never once had to process a refund or return, that was that the accountants did.
Sometimes it's just an issue of "Not your job"
So the CEO of your construction company did the accountant work? What were you a 5 person mom and pop op? Because that is what is happening here. The accountants (if there are any) aren't doing that apparently. The CEO is doing it all. The above points by myself and Mighty Unclean stand.
Actually, I've worked for small businesses with 30 or so employees (CU doesn't have more than 50 I'm guessing) and it isn't unusual for the owners (stop calling them CEOs, that's a big corporate title) to keep a tight hand on who can sign the checks to actually spend money.
More than one business has taken it in the chin hard or even failed because they trusted the wrong person to handle to money.
I'm not surprised he has to be the one to "push the button" on giving refunds, after all, by all accounts he's put a large amount of his own money into this endeavor.
I recall a story a few years back where a company's CFO embezzled $4M from his employer, and quickly spent $2M on a mobile game. (That one Arnold S used to promote)
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Can you give us examples of lies you accuse the studio of?
Pulling up a chair and grabbing some popcorn.
Puts out a couple of Cokes on the table to share and takes a bowl of that fine looking popcorn.
Waits for some good arguments why manually processing anything of this magnitude in a professional business project isn't worthy of scathing criticism and rebuke. Taking notes!
Apparently, no one in the entire organization under Mark Jacobs was trustworthy enough to trust with refunds. What does that say about both MJ and CSE?
It has nothing to do with actual Trust. My job was a foreman on site, and while my boss trusted me to not only make, but also sign off on multi million dollar purchase orders, I never once had to process a refund or return, that was that the accountants did.
Sometimes it's just an issue of "Not your job"
So the CEO of your construction company did the accountant work? What were you a 5 person mom and pop op? Because that is what is happening here. The accountants (if there are any) aren't doing that apparently. The CEO is doing it all. The above points by myself and Mighty Unclean stand.
Actually, I've worked for small businesses with 30 or so employees (CU doesn't have more than 50 I'm guessing) and it isn't unusual for the owners (stop calling them CEOs, that's a big corporate title) to keep a tight hand on who can sign the checks to actually spend money.
More than one business has taken it in the chin hard or even failed because they trusted the wrong person to handle to money.
I'm not surprised he has to be the one to "push the button" on giving refunds, after all, by all accounts he's put a large amount of his own money into this endeavor.
I recall a story a few years back where a company's CFO embezzled $4M from his employer, and quickly spent $2M on a mobile game. (That one Arnold S used to promote)
Yes, it is not the personal authorisation that surprises me, it is the way he is doing that. Surely there is someone in accounts who presents a detailed list and he would sign of on that, not the CEO looking at every individual claimant, checking the banking details and pushing the button. Does he open the post as well?
I'm just saying, that is just so confusing that it isn't delegated. Unless he doesn't contribute much day to day at this point?
He does delegate many tasks but he still decide, at times, to produce, design, manage community, recruit new developers, etc. on top of being CEO and Creative Director.
Well I suppose if they just have devs and artists working on the game then MJ would by default be the best person to deal with shitty non-production related stuff like this.
They have a Director of HR (who helps with the refund requests), a community manager, an associate producer and a producer (who is also lead audio designer).
I'm not surprised he has to be the one to "push the button" on giving refunds, after all, by all accounts he's put a large amount of his own money into this endeavor.
Yea parts of the refund process (answering emails, asking for personal information and transaction ID, transmitting the info to Mark, etc.) are done by an employee, but the refund itself (which takes about 15 minutes) is done manually by Mark. They've refunded more than $400,000 since November 2019 so it's not small money and I can understand how he would like to keep control over that.
Can you give us examples of lies you accuse the studio of?
Pulling up a chair and grabbing some popcorn.
Puts out a couple of Cokes on the table to share and takes a bowl of that fine looking popcorn.
Waits for some good arguments why manually processing anything of this magnitude in a professional business project isn't worthy of scathing criticism and rebuke. Taking notes!
Apparently, no one in the entire organization under Mark Jacobs was trustworthy enough to trust with refunds. What does that say about both MJ and CSE?
It has nothing to do with actual Trust. My job was a foreman on site, and while my boss trusted me to not only make, but also sign off on multi million dollar purchase orders, I never once had to process a refund or return, that was that the accountants did.
Sometimes it's just an issue of "Not your job"
So the CEO of your construction company did the accountant work? What were you a 5 person mom and pop op? Because that is what is happening here. The accountants (if there are any) aren't doing that apparently. The CEO is doing it all. The above points by myself and Mighty Unclean stand.
Actually, I've worked for small businesses with 30 or so employees (CU doesn't have more than 50 I'm guessing) and it isn't unusual for the owners (stop calling them CEOs, that's a big corporate title) to keep a tight hand on who can sign the checks to actually spend money.
More than one business has taken it in the chin hard or even failed because they trusted the wrong person to handle to money.
I'm not surprised he has to be the one to "push the button" on giving refunds, after all, by all accounts he's put a large amount of his own money into this endeavor.
I recall a story a few years back where a company's CFO embezzled $4M from his employer, and quickly spent $2M on a mobile game. (That one Arnold S used to promote)
That is certainly a testament that many small businesses are poorly run and businesses of any size are subject to theft and fraud from poor oversight. No wonder so many fail.
But again, he's doing more than just supervising and approving, he's manually processing each one like this is 1944. It is definitely possible to run a tight ship while still delegating jobs and tasks to the appropriate people and providing executive oversight. Micro-management and inefficient management are likely why this project is closing in on being a decade overdue.
They took the payments electronically, where is the automation to refund the payments electronically? Even if you're going to use a single authority, don't neglect automation.
That has created a single point of failure.
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Apparently, no one in the entire organization under Mark Jacobs was trustworthy enough to trust with refunds. What does that say about both MJ and CSE?
Sometimes it's just an issue of "Not your job"
I'm just saying, that is just so confusing that it isn't delegated. Unless he doesn't contribute much day to day at this point?
When you read him on Massively threads... he says stuff like, sorry, couldn't get into the office to process more refunds. It's like a Mom and Pop business.
More than one business has taken it in the chin hard or even failed because they trusted the wrong person to handle to money.
I'm not surprised he has to be the one to "push the button" on giving refunds, after all, by all accounts he's put a large amount of his own money into this endeavor.
I recall a story a few years back where a company's CFO embezzled $4M from his employer, and quickly spent $2M on a mobile game. (That one Arnold S used to promote)
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They have a Director of HR (who helps with the refund requests), a community manager, an associate producer and a producer (who is also lead audio designer).
Yea parts of the refund process (answering emails, asking for personal information and transaction ID, transmitting the info to Mark, etc.) are done by an employee, but the refund itself (which takes about 15 minutes) is done manually by Mark. They've refunded more than $400,000 since November 2019 so it's not small money and I can understand how he would like to keep control over that.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.