In the immediate future, we plan to deliver the following communications:
1. Give an explanation of the goals of our new Roadmap and what to expect from it
2. Show a rough mockup of the proposed new Roadmap
3. Share a work in progress version of the Roadmap for at least one of our core teams
4. And then finally transition to this new Roadmap
We’ll approach them in the order above, and we’ll likely need a few
weeks between steps, so I don’t want to create the impression that this
is happening overnight. But we should be announcing step 1 pretty soon
if my meeting on Thursday about this is as good as I think it will be.
A delay due to feature creep on a roadmap to roadmap, you cant make this sh**t up rofl.
I summon thee white knights - please give me your elaborate explanation how this is completely normal phenomenom and why its actually good for SC etc. I really cant wait for your zealous excuses.
I think I actually spent way more time reading and theorycrafting about MMOs than playing them
IDK why i missed this before,i have watched this video 3x already but i got it this time.
The keywords in this video are PU...Persistent Universe.This was after Joe's press to get some kind of timeline,WHEN can we play this game.What this guy is basically saying is with PU there is NO finish date,the timelines will continue FOREVER.
Here is the problem,OTHER games do the EXACT same thing but THEY RELEASED their games as finished.Wow continues to grow,heck FFXi continues to grow,those games are not claiming to be a PU game that never gets finished.
This also repeats what jAngry Joe noticed in a lame ass reward system that would take you 230 days 24 hours a day to buy the ship.Then we can talk about LOSING ships and how that plays right into the cash shop.Your game shouldn't have the main ideas of a game directly pointing at the cash shop,that is really lame.
This is the problem area i mentioned from day 1,ships SHOULD be crafted and NOT bought.Once you introduce the cash shop it ruins the immersion 100%.Then about 10 minutes later in the video dude has the gall to talk immersion lol.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Chris may find out just like "Tommy" did the mob can quickly turn on one who fails to deliver on their expectations.
"We're not gonna take it Never did and never will Don't want no religion And as far as we can tell We ain't gonna take you Never did and never will We're not gonna take you We forsake you Gonna rape you Let's forget you better still"
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I do wonder if there is a parallel elsewhere in gaming for this? They are creating a game within a game, not like a stand alone BR, it seems more like a solo/group theme park game in a simulation game. Thats got to cause problems, not on the level of PvP and PvE but is it a good fit?
I do wonder if there is a parallel elsewhere in gaming for this? They are creating a game within a game, not like a stand alone BR, it seems more like a solo/group theme park game in a simulation game. Thats got to cause problems, not on the level of PvP and PvE but is it a good fit?
Ah but what about the roaring success that was Landmark in relation to Everquest Next?
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
I do wonder if there is a parallel elsewhere in gaming for this? They are creating a game within a game, not like a stand alone BR, it seems more like a solo/group theme park game in a simulation game. Thats got to cause problems, not on the level of PvP and PvE but is it a good fit?
The closest I can think of was a reasonable idea. 38 Studios released Kingdoms of Amalur before the MMO as a way to bring in cash.
I do wonder if there is a parallel elsewhere in gaming for this? They are creating a game within a game, not like a stand alone BR, it seems more like a solo/group theme park game in a simulation game. Thats got to cause problems, not on the level of PvP and PvE but is it a good fit?
The closest I can think of was a reasonable idea. 38 Studios released Kingdoms of Amalur before the MMO as a way to bring in cash.
They (38 Studios) got screwed by a really badly done contract with their publisher. The game would have had to be #1 with a bullet to get them what they needed.
For CIG, a poorly received product (lackluster SQ42) would directly impact their system of finances. Better to make a ludicrous roadmap excuse than endanger their funding. They still might be forced to make another round of investor funding. Enough of that, and they could lose control of the project. Which I think is the best chance for the Star Citizen.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
I said it last year or was it two years ago now? When the got the loan for the 'advertising' for SQ 42 THAT was th eline in the sand. Once they showed they couldnt release a single player game the wheels would fall off.
While you cant underestimate the stupidity of people I am hoping people are going to start waking up to this nonsense.
Have to watch that link. Its classic and the guy breaks it right down.
I mean they cant even get a road map developed how can they do a game?
Seriously the outline they gave is laughable. Theyre going to make a rough draft (pre alpha roadmap) and then theyre going to add to it but only a partial portion of it, then after an indeterminate amount of time they will then release a 'final' (but still PARTIAL) roadmap, that will undoubtedly be delayed over and over again itself.
I touched on it with the 3.1 release. A smoke and mirrors 'update' to hopefully divert backers attention.
SQ 42 was supposed to be in beta in a month or so, yet here they are trying to figure out a road map? And lets not forget the other Roberts brother claimed he had played every single mission of the story how many years ago?
Lies and more lies surrounded by incompetence. Sprinkled with a complete mismanagement of funds. Has there been a single positive thing that was absolutely positively undeniable in the 8 years since they started taking money? Other than the amount of money they have separated from unsuspecting suckers I would say no not at all.
I do wonder if there is a parallel elsewhere in gaming for this? They are creating a game within a game, not like a stand alone BR, it seems more like a solo/group theme park game in a simulation game. Thats got to cause problems, not on the level of PvP and PvE but is it a good fit?
The closest I can think of was a reasonable idea. 38 Studios released Kingdoms of Amalur before the MMO as a way to bring in cash.
They (38 Studios) got screwed by a really badly done contract with their publisher. The game would have had to be #1 with a bullet to get them what they needed.
For CIG, a poorly received product (lackluster SQ42) would directly impact their system of finances. Better to make a ludicrous roadmap excuse than endanger their funding. They still might be forced to make another round of investor funding. Enough of that, and they could lose control of the project. Which I think is the best chance for the Star Citizen.
That may be a good example, but do you think say SQ42 is separate enough to ever be released as a stand alone game? I agree that they would think its better to keep fobbing fans off, but if they did decided to do this say next year how practical would it even be to attempt?
I said it last year or was it two years ago now? When the got the loan for the 'advertising' for SQ 42 THAT was th eline in the sand. Once they showed they couldnt release a single player game the wheels would fall off.
While you cant underestimate the stupidity of people I am hoping people are going to start waking up to this nonsense.
My favorite is step 2: "Show a rough mockup of the proposed new Roadmap."
Second favorite "We'll likely need a few weeks between steps" LMAO
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In the meantime .... i go back to playing Star Citizen Alpha ;-)
according to Roberts brother it was done 4 years ago, at least he claims to have played the whole thing through....but apparently all those lies have been scrubbed but everyone remembers the lies.
The fans know the game is whack. The only part of the game that is fun for them is the mission where you have to defend it. Most of them play other games because they know it's too unfinished to enjoy as their main and only MMO, which I'm positive frustrates them from time to time, but they will never be the bigger people and admit that (like most of us would). I've played lots of MMOs and thought this will be the one, but I know when to admit it was a flop. This is some Jonestown level s***, sorry but it's true.
In the meantime .... i go back to playing Star Citizen Alpha ;-)
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“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
Comments
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
I think I actually spent way more time reading and theorycrafting about MMOs than playing them
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
The keywords in this video are PU...Persistent Universe.This was after Joe's press to get some kind of timeline,WHEN can we play this game.What this guy is basically saying is with PU there is NO finish date,the timelines will continue FOREVER.
Here is the problem,OTHER games do the EXACT same thing but THEY RELEASED their games as finished.Wow continues to grow,heck FFXi continues to grow,those games are not claiming to be a PU game that never gets finished.
This also repeats what jAngry Joe noticed in a lame ass reward system that would take you 230 days 24 hours a day to buy the ship.Then we can talk about LOSING ships and how that plays right into the cash shop.Your game shouldn't have the main ideas of a game directly pointing at the cash shop,that is really lame.
This is the problem area i mentioned from day 1,ships SHOULD be crafted and NOT bought.Once you introduce the cash shop it ruins the immersion 100%.Then about 10 minutes later in the video dude has the gall to talk immersion lol.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
"We're not gonna take it
Never did and never will
Don't want no religion
And as far as we can tell
We ain't gonna take you
Never did and never will
We're not gonna take you
We forsake you
Gonna rape you
Let's forget you better still"
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
The closest I can think of was a reasonable idea. 38 Studios released Kingdoms of Amalur before the MMO as a way to bring in cash.
For CIG, a poorly received product (lackluster SQ42) would directly impact their system of finances. Better to make a ludicrous roadmap excuse than endanger their funding. They still might be forced to make another round of investor funding. Enough of that, and they could lose control of the project. Which I think is the best chance for the Star Citizen.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
LMAO a roadmap for a roadmap.
I said it last year or was it two years ago now? When the got the loan for the 'advertising' for SQ 42 THAT was th eline in the sand. Once they showed they couldnt release a single player game the wheels would fall off.
While you cant underestimate the stupidity of people I am hoping people are going to start waking up to this nonsense.
I mean they cant even get a road map developed how can they do a game?
Seriously the outline they gave is laughable. Theyre going to make a rough draft (pre alpha roadmap) and then theyre going to add to it but only a partial portion of it, then after an indeterminate amount of time they will then release a 'final' (but still PARTIAL) roadmap, that will undoubtedly be delayed over and over again itself.
I touched on it with the 3.1 release. A smoke and mirrors 'update' to hopefully divert backers attention.
SQ 42 was supposed to be in beta in a month or so, yet here they are trying to figure out a road map? And lets not forget the other Roberts brother claimed he had played every single mission of the story how many years ago?
Lies and more lies surrounded by incompetence. Sprinkled with a complete mismanagement of funds. Has there been a single positive thing that was absolutely positively undeniable in the 8 years since they started taking money? Other than the amount of money they have separated from unsuspecting suckers I would say no not at all.
Second favorite "We'll likely need a few weeks between steps" LMAO
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Tech Demo, not Alpha. Alpha has a particular meaning in the software world. And what you are playing does not meet that definition.
Well, if you want to wait 5 more years and give them another 300 million, maybe the game will be done.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Many AAA Developers spend years on their roadmaps! You just don't understand roadmap development!
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.