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Old school games were clearly better

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  • tzervotzervo Member RarePosts: 314
    tzervo said:
    Funny how some things did not change that much since then.

    We also had cheaters, bugs and exploits (aka holes in the rules that allowed misinterpretation and drama following up), balancing issues etc back then :P
    Your acting like it was 40 years ago
    Heh. Well, me playing board games regularly was almost that long ago. But I am glad that the board game community is still alive and kicking :D

    I still set up board game sessions here and there with friends, but not that often. I have to admit I miss gathering with friends around the table and the tactile aspect of the board game. But I also came to appreciate not having to take care of the "logistical" aspect of setting up the game and keeping to the rules when playing MMORPGs.
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  • tzervotzervo Member RarePosts: 314
    Oh honest question, did your GMs abide by permadeath of your character sheet during sessions if there was a full wipe?
    Depends on how much players got on the GMs nerves at that day  >:) (I was the GM).

    Nah, the hallmark of a good GM is to be able to give the players the illusion of risk so they try their best but let them keep the characters they are attached to for as long as they want. Some "real" loss that stings helps reinforce that illusion, but not permadeath.
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  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 6,152
    tzervo said:
    Oh honest question, did your GMs abide by permadeath of your character sheet during sessions if there was a full wipe?
    Depends on how much players got on the GMs nerves at that day  >:) (I was the GM).

    Nah, the hallmark of a good GM is to be able to give the players the illusion of risk so they try their best but let them keep the characters they are attached to for as long as they want. Some "real" loss that stings helps reinforce that illusion, but not permadeath.

    Yes... My AD&D DMs ran the gamut of roll 3 characters, if one lives to level 3, name them to a DM who wanted to write a story about my character so there was no risk at all, even though I tried :)

    I was also lucky enough to play with 2 DMs who had just the right touch for me :)

    Never had a DM that took a character sheet and ripped it in half, thank goodness...
    tzervokitarad

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  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 2,696
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  • ArglebargleArglebargle Member RarePosts: 2,808
    AlBQuirky said:
    tzervo said:
    Oh honest question, did your GMs abide by permadeath of your character sheet during sessions if there was a full wipe?
    Depends on how much players got on the GMs nerves at that day  >:) (I was the GM).

    Nah, the hallmark of a good GM is to be able to give the players the illusion of risk so they try their best but let them keep the characters they are attached to for as long as they want. Some "real" loss that stings helps reinforce that illusion, but not permadeath.

    Yes... My AD&D DMs ran the gamut of roll 3 characters, if one lives to level 3, name them to a DM who wanted to write a story about my character so there was no risk at all, even though I tried :)

    I was also lucky enough to play with 2 DMs who had just the right touch for me :)

    Never had a DM that took a character sheet and ripped it in half, thank goodness...
    I would have used the Amulet Vs Chaotic GMs at that point.  
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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member EpicPosts: 7,551
    My favorite board game as a kid was Parcheesi, played it almost every day.
    I also played Chess and another one i forgot the name where the board forms a star shape with many holes..

    Chinese checkers?
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  • GorweGorwe Member Posts: 24
    Where's Warhammer or Magic? Kinda like, yeah, less known games. ;)
    tzervo
  • delete5230delete5230 Member EpicPosts: 6,447
    Gorwe said:
    Where's Warhammer or Magic? Kinda like, yeah, less known games. ;)
    Are you new here ?


    Only kidding :)
    tzervo
  • kitaradkitarad Member EpicPosts: 5,834
    Parcheesi plays like Ludo except Ludo has only one die. Interesting I guess these games are in different forms all over the world. It is a Native American game from what I read when I googled it.
    AlBQuirky

  • bonzoso21bonzoso21 Member UncommonPosts: 358
    edited August 2
    Tabletop gaming has really taken off in the last 10-15 years thanks to the success of Catan, Carcassonne, Ticket to Ride and the like. It seems like even those who were primarily videogamers have flocked to the hobby for the in-person social play that videogames lost with the proliferation of online multiplayer and the rarity of couch co-op these days, and the wide variety of experiences you can get in tabletop gaming reflects that.

    Rolling a die and moving along a track was fun as a kid, but I now have a collection of nearly 150 games with a wide variety of game mechanics, themes, and artistic styles that blow away what most of those old school games did. Even since the pandemic began, my most-played game is Tabletop Simulator on Steam, which allows our group to get together every weekend like usual and play a game or two. 
    AlBQuirkytzervo
  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Member RarePosts: 3,022
    As an avid boardgamer, I'm kinda bummed that I'm just now seeing this thread. 
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  • AdamantineAdamantine Member RarePosts: 4,428

    Monopoly was a grind fest.
    Monopoly is simply a bad game. Luck based, tedius, and the winning strategy is obvious.


    tzervoAlBQuirky
    Please set a sig so I can read your posting even if somebody "agreed" etc with it. Thanks.
  • AdamantineAdamantine Member RarePosts: 4,428
    Aeander said:
    I don't play bored games.

    Unfortunately that sums it about up ...

    Also, there is no board game one couldnt transport to the computer.

    This thread would actually be better if it WAS about old computer games.

    Please set a sig so I can read your posting even if somebody "agreed" etc with it. Thanks.
  • kitaradkitarad Member EpicPosts: 5,834
    edited August 4
    Aeander said:
    I don't play bored games.

    Unfortunately that sums it about up ...

    Also, there is no board game one couldnt transport to the computer.

    This thread would actually be better if it WAS about old computer games.

    Computers don't allow you to throw a pillow at your cousin or upset the board on purpose when you're losing. Going for a glass of water and keeping an eye out to see if anyone is changing their position or cheating.That simply does not happen when you're playing these games on a computer.

    They also don't give you any tactile responses. The wonderful feeling of the Mahjong tiles in your hands as you mix them. The clacking of the tiles as you gently move them around at 3 am hoping a new complaint from the neighbour does not come in the morning. You miss all that so no they are not 'bored' games they are far from that and playing with family members is such a treat and  an experience I would never cheapen by calling the time I spent with them as boring.

    My best memories of my cousins were when we were playing games and even at this old age we still get together every few years or so to play something and all the memories come flooding back make making my chest tight.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 36,135

    Monopoly was a grind fest.
    Monopoly is simply a bad game. Luck based, tedius, and the winning strategy is obvious.


    Always be the banker and steal from the till when no one is looking?

     ;) 
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  • tzervotzervo Member RarePosts: 314
    edited August 4
    Kyleran said:

    Monopoly was a grind fest.
    Monopoly is simply a bad game. Luck based, tedius, and the winning strategy is obvious.


    Always be the banker and steal from the till when no one is looking?

     ;) 
    You don't need to be a banker for that! :P
    AlBQuirky
  • kitaradkitarad Member EpicPosts: 5,834
    edited August 4
    Kyleran said:

    Monopoly was a grind fest.
    Monopoly is simply a bad game. Luck based, tedius, and the winning strategy is obvious.


    Always be the banker and steal from the till when no one is looking?

     ;) 
    Good thing you weren't our banker. My cousin was the most honest banker and she often lost at Monopoly so definitely not a thieving player.
    Post edited by kitarad on
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  • botrytisbotrytis Member RarePosts: 3,179
    WOW, this thread is kind of like some of the Audiophile threads on certain forums where they say, 'Young people don't want good sounding music.' Remember back in the days when. Memory is a dangerous and fickle thing as it is tied into our emotions so much that, it is hard to divorce one from the other.

    Let us just say, just because things are different, doesn't mean they are bad.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 36,135
    edited August 4
    Naw, we’re mostly reminiscing and having some fun, few are taking this as any sort of serious point of view.   

    Just as I prefer newer music (hey, last 10 years in newer for me) I prefer newer games, you won’t see me playing Axis and Allies much these days even,  and would play board games but I don’t have anyone in my friends circle who would be interested.

    Wait, I don’t really have a friends circle either, perhaps that’s the problem?  

    :)
    tzervoAlBQuirky

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    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing FO76 at the moment.

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  • NyghthowlerNyghthowler Member UncommonPosts: 348
    Chess
    3D Chess
    Backgammon
    And my all time favorite:
    Cribbage

    My grandfather and I would play cribbage for hours on long winter nights, when the snow was piled feet deep. I miss those days.
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