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An example of how Mark Jacobs interacts with those who don't agree with him
MightyUnclean
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Thanks OC for once again, doing that lying thing you do so well.
You’ve been saying for years, when you are going to livestream and we did. And yet, even though we showed what are engine can do and Eliot got to play it live himself (and he commented on it), you’re ignoring that just to shitpost me and CU and our engine.
I hope you’re getting paid to do this, at least part of my job is to talk to the community. You spend a lot of your time shitposting me, other games, and anybody who dares to question SC. At least I’m making two game and an engine. What are you contributing to the world OC?
Oh yeah, I almost forgot, you’re WKing SC, attacking anybody who disagrees with on their threads and me/CU here.
Yeah, big accomplishment. You must be so proud.
Cya!
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His responses in general have been a bit snippy.
That said, there were 2-3 guys on the forums or especially MassivelyOP that were a bit excessive and he kind of dumped on them. Now, I more than most know that when you get a Developer to lose his shit and drag him into the mud with you... well... that's bad for the Developer.
MJ should know this and avoid it but for some reason he feels compelled to respond to each and every post.
That said, the vast majority of responses to people who disagree with this news has been along the lines of:
I hope you give us a chance to prove this is for the best.
Or
I understand and accept what you are saying. Have you read my response to XYZ?
But yeah... letting people goad him into calling them trolls is a bad look and he should know better by now.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
But my first thought was "Well this OC person ought stop shit posting on every game out there and do something productive"
Not like i follow this game much anyhow, but i have not heard this is a ongoing thing.
Dev's today need to have a really thick skin, especially those that are doing this crowd funding stuff.
You invite everyone and their dog into your house...and you are gonna get all kinds and some shit too...
With all the up-close-and-personal KS projects these days that just seems normal now but it wasn't back then. He probably misses Sanja running interference for him although she could get pretty snippy herself countering what she considered unfair criticism or lies.
The most interesting part out of all this for me though is that it's happening at Massively and not here. This would have been here even as recently as 2 years ago. This site feels to me like it's going into maintenance mode or may be already there.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Maybe someone should email the staff and let them know there is big news about an actual MMORPG in development. They simply may not know unless you tell them...
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
They are allowing refunds. Get your refund and move on with your life.
Also, you should probably look up the definition of "slander." What in the title or body of my post was false? Maybe you meant libel? Also refers to false statements.
An MMORPG news site that doesn't know what's going on with MMORPGs unless their userbase tells them. It makes me giggle (in a sad way).
But yeah, since Bill walked away to head his new venture, this place has gone downhill. I've seen tons of spam showing up in the threads (outbound links to get-rich spam posts), and it seems to be mostly coverage of the latest sponsored post for a gaming-related item (chair, headset, microphone, etc.), or a ton of single-player titles.
Where are the deep-dives with developers of MMORPGs? Interviews with team members on the various MMORPGs in development? Coverage of the latest development news, or newsletters, or blog posts, or YouTube/Twitch videos that the companies put out?
/shrug
@ShankTheTank See you get a 2 for 1 here. Write an article about Camelot Unchained/Colossus and then interview Renfail.
Happy to help!
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
That's one of the beautiful aspects of Discord, is that I can quickly and easily answer people on a daily basis. And yeah, games are our life (hell, I'm playing WoW Classic like 5 nights a week with our community, even), so it just makes sense that we immerse ourselves in all aspects.
I've got that Dark Crystal tactical game on pre-order for Feb 4th, even, and then there's the FF7 remake in April, then Last of Us II, and then Cyberpunk 2077, and I'm getting ready to pick up the alpha for Dual Universe in May (time-willing).....
But yeah, it's kind of silly how our community members often have to reach out to the "MMORPG news" outlets to let them know about updates, when you would think the staff of said news outlets would have RSS feeds set up, Google alerts set up, and would be scouring the Internet on a daily basis for MMORPG-related news, especially regarding in-development titles /wink wink
It's a good time for one, with Stage Three of our alpha around the corner in April.
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I do not have anything against mark but i do feel he has no game worth talking about,at least not yet.
I feel he has every right to react to comments just as regular folk react to comments.If he doesn't like what is being said he is allowed to respond,i mean why wouldn't he be allowed?
In that snippet,he did not blatantly attack back with a vague statement,he responded to not showing the game live and mentions that he did stream the game and still took the same flack.
I still remember like it was yesterday when Brad was willingly talking to the community and all people did was flame him on everything.Anyone can disagree with another,why not,if you don't like something,say it but don't outright flame someone for TRYING to communicate.
The sad reality is that this will likely not go good for Mark and his game and imo both need LOADS of help.One idea i will comment on is the notion of "contributing".IDK if there is any contributing yet or just PR moves and a internal move towards a fast cash grab,we won't know until a few months from now as we get closer.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
NOBODY gets a free pass in this world and nobody is giving you their honest effort in the game industry.
You can look at developers EXACTLY like you see Twitch Streamers,the vast majority are out there to make money and NOT to simply SHARE the love of gaming.
If there are 500 in a row crap games or all looking like some weekend warrior made them,why should anyone give them credit when all they are doing is trying to scam us by trying to sell us crap?
I'll tell you how it works,devs make a great game that warrant our money,they are trying to SELL us a product,you do that with good effort and a good product.You do not simply sell us something and expect accolades for nothing.A business MUST earn respect and EARN it's money,nothing is for free,not money or accolades.
Go build a house,your tradesman all do a crap job,what do you do praise them for trying?Your likely going to complain,tell them to get it right or they don't get paid,that is how the REAL world works and that is how the gaming business works.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.