It is a big deal, and China does need to be watched. All you need to do is look at what China is doing in their own county and Hong Kong. Then look at their affect on the rest of the world. They are twisting the arms of corporations and sometimes governements in other countries. It's going to bite us in the ass before we know it.
It is a big deal, and China does need to be watched. All you need to do is look at what China is doing in their own county and Hong Kong. Then look at their affect on the rest of the world. They are twisting the arms of corporations and sometimes governements in other countries. It's going to bite us in the ass before we know it.
Then again, so are our own giant tech companies. 1984 is the new world war. Who are you putting your money on?
In ancient and not so ancient warfare, when a victor conquered a land they'd destroy all thing from farming to industry so that the people were controlled by being totally reliant on their conquerors for basic survival. What's the difference? It's social controls.
It is a big deal, and China does need to be watched. All you need to do is look at what China is doing in their own county and Hong Kong. Then look at their affect on the rest of the world. They are twisting the arms of corporations and sometimes governements in other countries. It's going to bite us in the ass before we know it.
Every major corporation is doing this, regardless of nationality.
It is a big deal, and China does need to be watched. All you need to do is look at what China is doing in their own county and Hong Kong. Then look at their affect on the rest of the world. They are twisting the arms of corporations and sometimes governements in other countries. It's going to bite us in the ass before we know it.
Every major corporation is doing this, regardless of nationality.
China is orchestrating its corporations into giving it a say on the world stage through economic power. It even wants to rewrite history, if your country recognises Taiwan as an independent state, China closes diplomacy to your country and investment dries up. Individual corporations do not do this, this is different league.
Every country is going to do what is advantageous for itself. Until recent times, the US has been the un-disputed king of enriching itself through other countries' resources, and WE ALL that live here have the opportunity to live our dreams, and still do. Whether you know it or not, you have benefited immensely from the misery of others.
That's the nature of competition. Until somebody wins and the planet is under one nation, it will be that way (even then it will be the same with different demarcations).
I'm not against fighting China, but your argument based on moral high ground is laughable and makes you look unimaginably uneducated. Our country has been using those same tactics and enriching you for over a century, and you have no idea.
It is a big deal, and China does need to be watched. All you need to do is look at what China is doing in their own county and Hong Kong. Then look at their affect on the rest of the world. They are twisting the arms of corporations and sometimes governements in other countries. It's going to bite us in the ass before we know it.
Every major corporation is doing this, regardless of nationality.
China is orchestrating its corporations into giving it a say on the world stage through economic power. It even wants to rewrite history, if your country recognises Taiwan as an independent state, China closes diplomacy to your country and investment dries up. Individual corporations do not do this, this is different league.
Maybe they're more overt and maybe they do it for lesser reasons but the US has been using tariffs and slapping trade embargos on countries it doesn't like forever.
The difference is just perception: when people think a country has the moral high ground to do it no one bats an eye, they cheer it in fact. It's only a "problem" when people think the country doesn't have that moral high ground.
If you think that large corporations everywhere don't work hand in hand with governments and their political agendas you're dreaming.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
For those saying every corporation in every country is doing this, not every country is funding their chosen corporation(s) to do this. China is using its corporations to place their tentacles into every other country and manipulate it to benefit CHINA.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I do not wear a tinfoil hat, but this scares me.
It is a big deal, and China does need to be watched. All you need to do is look at what China is doing in their own county and Hong Kong. Then look at their affect on the rest of the world. They are twisting the arms of corporations and sometimes governements in other countries. It's going to bite us in the ass before we know it.
Every major corporation is doing this, regardless of nationality.
China is orchestrating its corporations into giving it a say on the world stage through economic power. It even wants to rewrite history, if your country recognises Taiwan as an independent state, China closes diplomacy to your country and investment dries up. Individual corporations do not do this, this is different league.
Maybe they're more overt and maybe they do it for lesser reasons but the US has been using tariffs and slapping trade embargos on countries it doesn't like forever.
The difference is just perception: when people think a country has the moral high ground to do it no one bats an eye, they cheer it in fact. It's only a "problem" when people think the country doesn't have that moral high ground.
If you think that large corporations everywhere don't work hand in hand with governments and their political agendas you're dreaming.
If that's true, then just whose political agenda are these American corporations working for?
But it's not true. In America and most of the west, the corporations are pretty much free to do what they see as their own business. That's how this happened in the first place. And we as free people are free to react as we wish. To say what we wish.
And when those lines are crossed, it's time to take a strong stance against it.
It is a big deal, and China does need to be watched. All you need to do is look at what China is doing in their own county and Hong Kong. Then look at their affect on the rest of the world. They are twisting the arms of corporations and sometimes governements in other countries. It's going to bite us in the ass before we know it.
Every major corporation is doing this, regardless of nationality.
China is orchestrating its corporations into giving it a say on the world stage through economic power. It even wants to rewrite history, if your country recognises Taiwan as an independent state, China closes diplomacy to your country and investment dries up. Individual corporations do not do this, this is different league.
Maybe they're more overt and maybe they do it for lesser reasons but the US has been using tariffs and slapping trade embargos on countries it doesn't like forever.
The difference is just perception: when people think a country has the moral high ground to do it no one bats an eye, they cheer it in fact. It's only a "problem" when people think the country doesn't have that moral high ground.
If you think that large corporations everywhere don't work hand in hand with governments and their political agendas you're dreaming.
If that's true, then just whose political agenda are these American corporations working for?
But it's not true. In America and most of the west, the corporations are pretty much free to do what they see as their own business. That's how this happened in the first place. And we as free people are free to react as we wish. To say what we wish.
And when those lines are crossed, it's time to take a strong stance against it.
The incentives have always been money and power, whether you link a government to it or not. The powerful prey on the weak and always have been. It could be orchestrated by a president, a king or a CEO, the masses always suffer.
Look at all the colonies in the past, English ones, Dutch ones etc. Look at the strong arming of the USA economically or its role in Vietnam. And now China. It has been happening since forever, the difference today is that we are on the receiving end, and now its no fun anymore.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
It is a big deal, and China does need to be watched. All you need to do is look at what China is doing in their own county and Hong Kong. Then look at their affect on the rest of the world. They are twisting the arms of corporations and sometimes governements in other countries. It's going to bite us in the ass before we know it.
Every major corporation is doing this, regardless of nationality.
China is orchestrating its corporations into giving it a say on the world stage through economic power. It even wants to rewrite history, if your country recognises Taiwan as an independent state, China closes diplomacy to your country and investment dries up. Individual corporations do not do this, this is different league.
Maybe they're more overt and maybe they do it for lesser reasons but the US has been using tariffs and slapping trade embargos on countries it doesn't like forever.
The difference is just perception: when people think a country has the moral high ground to do it no one bats an eye, they cheer it in fact. It's only a "problem" when people think the country doesn't have that moral high ground.
If you think that large corporations everywhere don't work hand in hand with governments and their political agendas you're dreaming.
If that's true, then just whose political agenda are these American corporations working for?
But it's not true. In America and most of the west, the corporations are pretty much free to do what they see as their own business. That's how this happened in the first place. And we as free people are free to react as we wish. To say what we wish.
And when those lines are crossed, it's time to take a strong stance against it.
America has been around since 1776. Almost 250 years. England has been around MUCH longer and had colonies all over the known world. Egypt was a dynasty in its time and so was Rome. Alexander the Great controlled much of the area around the Mediterranean.
This practice is nothing new. Whose "political agenda" do corporations follow? The one that is present and allows them to make the most money. In other words, they don't care. They support countries that allow cheap labor, sometimes children. Why? More money for them.
I realize that people "with good intentions" want to stomp out all "unapproved" ways, but is that wise?
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
It is a big deal, and China does need to be watched. All you need to do is look at what China is doing in their own county and Hong Kong. Then look at their affect on the rest of the world. They are twisting the arms of corporations and sometimes governements in other countries. It's going to bite us in the ass before we know it.
Every major corporation is doing this, regardless of nationality.
China is orchestrating its corporations into giving it a say on the world stage through economic power. It even wants to rewrite history, if your country recognises Taiwan as an independent state, China closes diplomacy to your country and investment dries up. Individual corporations do not do this, this is different league.
Maybe they're more overt and maybe they do it for lesser reasons but the US has been using tariffs and slapping trade embargos on countries it doesn't like forever.
The difference is just perception: when people think a country has the moral high ground to do it no one bats an eye, they cheer it in fact. It's only a "problem" when people think the country doesn't have that moral high ground.
If you think that large corporations everywhere don't work hand in hand with governments and their political agendas you're dreaming.
If that's true, then just whose political agenda are these American corporations working for?
But it's not true. In America and most of the west, the corporations are pretty much free to do what they see as their own business. That's how this happened in the first place. And we as free people are free to react as we wish. To say what we wish.
And when those lines are crossed, it's time to take a strong stance against it.
America has been around since 1776. Almost 250 years. England has been around MUCH longer and had colonies all over the known world. Egypt was a dynasty in its time and so was Rome. Alexander the Great controlled much of the area around the Mediterranean.
This practice is nothing new. Whose "political agenda" do corporations follow? The one that is present and allows them to make the most money. In other words, they don't care. They support countries that allow cheap labor, sometimes children. Why? More money for them.
I realize that people "with good intentions" want to stomp out all "unapproved" ways, but is that wise?
No, because Capitalism would not be sustainable otherwise. There is a finite amount of money and power, where one group or person gains it another loses it. The perfect example? Amazon. look at the difference between the average worker and Bezos, the money, the working conditions. How do people think he got that wealthy?
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
It is a big deal, and China does need to be watched. All you need to do is look at what China is doing in their own county and Hong Kong. Then look at their affect on the rest of the world. They are twisting the arms of corporations and sometimes governements in other countries. It's going to bite us in the ass before we know it.
Every major corporation is doing this, regardless of nationality.
China is orchestrating its corporations into giving it a say on the world stage through economic power. It even wants to rewrite history, if your country recognises Taiwan as an independent state, China closes diplomacy to your country and investment dries up. Individual corporations do not do this, this is different league.
Maybe they're more overt and maybe they do it for lesser reasons but the US has been using tariffs and slapping trade embargos on countries it doesn't like forever.
The difference is just perception: when people think a country has the moral high ground to do it no one bats an eye, they cheer it in fact. It's only a "problem" when people think the country doesn't have that moral high ground.
If you think that large corporations everywhere don't work hand in hand with governments and their political agendas you're dreaming.
If that's true, then just whose political agenda are these American corporations working for?
But it's not true. In America and most of the west, the corporations are pretty much free to do what they see as their own business. That's how this happened in the first place. And we as free people are free to react as we wish. To say what we wish.
And when those lines are crossed, it's time to take a strong stance against it.
The incentives have always been money and power, whether you link a government to it or not. The powerful prey on the weak and always have been. It could be orchestrated by a president, a king or a CEO, the masses always suffer.
Look at all the colonies in the past, English ones, Dutch ones etc. Look at the strong arming of the USA economically or its role in Vietnam. And now China. It has been happening since forever, the difference today is that we are on the receiving end, and now its no fun anymore.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
By "the West", I'm talking about the current "West." That's post-WWII, because there was a major change in "Western" policies due to how (what was done after) WWI created a situation where a guy like Hitler could rise to power.
So this talk of the old colonies, while that has some merit, is from another time, another world.
I don't want to get into Vietnam. That's much too complicated, and this isn't a place for even the politics we're getting into now. Suffice it to say that I agree we should have never gotten into it, but the fear of the spread of communism is understandable to some extent. Not enough, but just saying.
The reason for the trade sanctions on China is because of their massive cheating of the system. Trump is absolutely right that previous presidents and politicians should have done something a long time ago. Everyone knew this before Trump came along, but no one was willing to take on such a tough job.
It is a big deal, and China does need to be watched. All you need to do is look at what China is doing in their own county and Hong Kong. Then look at their affect on the rest of the world. They are twisting the arms of corporations and sometimes governements in other countries. It's going to bite us in the ass before we know it.
Every major corporation is doing this, regardless of nationality.
China is orchestrating its corporations into giving it a say on the world stage through economic power. It even wants to rewrite history, if your country recognises Taiwan as an independent state, China closes diplomacy to your country and investment dries up. Individual corporations do not do this, this is different league.
Maybe they're more overt and maybe they do it for lesser reasons but the US has been using tariffs and slapping trade embargos on countries it doesn't like forever.
The difference is just perception: when people think a country has the moral high ground to do it no one bats an eye, they cheer it in fact. It's only a "problem" when people think the country doesn't have that moral high ground.
If you think that large corporations everywhere don't work hand in hand with governments and their political agendas you're dreaming.
If that's true, then just whose political agenda are these American corporations working for?
But it's not true. In America and most of the west, the corporations are pretty much free to do what they see as their own business. That's how this happened in the first place. And we as free people are free to react as we wish. To say what we wish.
And when those lines are crossed, it's time to take a strong stance against it.
America has been around since 1776. Almost 250 years. England has been around MUCH longer and had colonies all over the known world. Egypt was a dynasty in its time and so was Rome. Alexander the Great controlled much of the area around the Mediterranean.
This practice is nothing new. Whose "political agenda" do corporations follow? The one that is present and allows them to make the most money. In other words, they don't care. They support countries that allow cheap labor, sometimes children. Why? More money for them.
I realize that people "with good intentions" want to stomp out all "unapproved" ways, but is that wise?
No, because Capitalism would not be sustainable otherwise. There is a finite amount of money and power, where one group or person gains it another loses it. The perfect example? Amazon. look at the difference between the average worker and Bezos, the money, the working conditions. How do people think he got that wealthy?
/Cheers, Lahnmir
Lahnmir, let me point out a couple of things here. First off, according to that statement, no economic system could possibly grow without preying on the weak. But you aren't considering economic growth. And that's why true capitalism works, because it's all about growth while keeping prices in check through competition. And this is considering growth beyond population increase, which is a wash without real growth.
Now, about Bezos. You're right in the point about wages and working conditions. That's about Amazon's cheap prices. No wonder when they treat their employees so poorly.
But Bezos doesn't make much from the business of Amazon to mean anything. He makes all his money from the stock value, and the rapid growth. Which comes from the low prices, and thus from the poor working conditions, so that still applies.
So Bezos' share from the company business equates to a mere $2.58 per employee, per YEAR.
I see that Amazon employees are trying to unionize. (For both good and bad, in my opinion.) They really need a union.
But as far as the big picture, Amazon is not typical. They were a new idea, they didn't have an existing pay scale, and came in with an economy with high unemployment. So they could get away with lower wages. I'm not happy with the changes that allowed the overtime without pay, either.
Things have sucked, world wide, for years. And that's another thing I blame on China (there's some other issues too) who has cheated the system to prop up their otherwise failed system. That important growth factor has gone to them, when there's no way it should have in a fair trade world. And something like Amazon happens, and we all get hurt, except for the few.
I guess my point is this. This isn't true Capitalism. And the problem is in the world wide scale. Much needs fixed.
It is a big deal, and China does need to be watched. All you need to do is look at what China is doing in their own county and Hong Kong. Then look at their affect on the rest of the world. They are twisting the arms of corporations and sometimes governements in other countries. It's going to bite us in the ass before we know it.
Every major corporation is doing this, regardless of nationality.
China is orchestrating its corporations into giving it a say on the world stage through economic power. It even wants to rewrite history, if your country recognises Taiwan as an independent state, China closes diplomacy to your country and investment dries up. Individual corporations do not do this, this is different league.
Maybe they're more overt and maybe they do it for lesser reasons but the US has been using tariffs and slapping trade embargos on countries it doesn't like forever.
The difference is just perception: when people think a country has the moral high ground to do it no one bats an eye, they cheer it in fact. It's only a "problem" when people think the country doesn't have that moral high ground.
If you think that large corporations everywhere don't work hand in hand with governments and their political agendas you're dreaming.
When rising manufacturing costs in your country (whatever it may be) led to manufacturers looking elsewhere, did the people in your country hold street protests and boycott products from the home country of those businesses?
Is your government encouraging its companies to conduct widespread industrial and technical espionage?
Has your country banned all tourism to another country? Has it followed that up with state media orchestrated boycotts of products from that country?
Is your country ignoring internationally agreed sea borders and building artificial islands to increase its territorial aims?
Partly too, we must judge China on what they will do aboard from what they have done at home. Has the leader of your country replaced the ten commandments in Christian churches with his own doctrinal sayings? Or sent a soldier to live with every family in a Muslim province, while detaining thousands of others to ensure their obedience?
Yes, corporations work with governments, not hand in hand as you seem to think, but closely, though perhaps we mean the same thing there? China though is in its own league, we have been slow to wake up to this.
I am breaking my own rule of not talking about politics on this forum, so I will leave it there, by all means have the last say.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
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1984 is the new world war. Who are you putting your money on?
In ancient and not so ancient warfare, when a victor conquered a land they'd destroy all thing from farming to industry so that the people were controlled by being totally reliant on their conquerors for basic survival.
What's the difference? It's social controls.
Once upon a time....
The difference is just perception: when people think a country has the moral high ground to do it no one bats an eye, they cheer it in fact. It's only a "problem" when people think the country doesn't have that moral high ground.
If you think that large corporations everywhere don't work hand in hand with governments and their political agendas you're dreaming.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
But it's not true. In America and most of the west, the corporations are pretty much free to do what they see as their own business. That's how this happened in the first place. And we as free people are free to react as we wish. To say what we wish.
And when those lines are crossed, it's time to take a strong stance against it.
Once upon a time....
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
This practice is nothing new. Whose "political agenda" do corporations follow? The one that is present and allows them to make the most money. In other words, they don't care. They support countries that allow cheap labor, sometimes children. Why? More money for them.
I realize that people "with good intentions" want to stomp out all "unapproved" ways, but is that wise?
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
So this talk of the old colonies, while that has some merit, is from another time, another world.
I don't want to get into Vietnam. That's much too complicated, and this isn't a place for even the politics we're getting into now.
Suffice it to say that I agree we should have never gotten into it, but the fear of the spread of communism is understandable to some extent. Not enough, but just saying.
The reason for the trade sanctions on China is because of their massive cheating of the system. Trump is absolutely right that previous presidents and politicians should have done something a long time ago. Everyone knew this before Trump came along, but no one was willing to take on such a tough job.
Once upon a time....
insane amounts of Migration happening from china to all parts of the world hahaha, and Most Countries allow it to happen
what happens when 300/500 million chinese migrate to other parts of the world, how long until that happens ?
First off, according to that statement, no economic system could possibly grow without preying on the weak.
But you aren't considering economic growth. And that's why true capitalism works, because it's all about growth while keeping prices in check through competition.
And this is considering growth beyond population increase, which is a wash without real growth.
Now, about Bezos.
You're right in the point about wages and working conditions. That's about Amazon's cheap prices. No wonder when they treat their employees so poorly.
But Bezos doesn't make much from the business of Amazon to mean anything. He makes all his money from the stock value, and the rapid growth. Which comes from the low prices, and thus from the poor working conditions, so that still applies.
Bezos makes a salary of $81,840. per year.
He gets an additional allowance for security and travel of $1,600,000 per year.
That's a total of $1, 681,840 per year.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/11/tech/jeff-bezos-pay/index.html
Amazon had about 650,000 employees in 2018.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/234488/number-of-amazon-employees/http://
So Bezos' share from the company business equates to a mere $2.58 per employee, per YEAR.
I see that Amazon employees are trying to unionize. (For both good and bad, in my opinion.)
They really need a union.
But as far as the big picture, Amazon is not typical. They were a new idea, they didn't have an existing pay scale, and came in with an economy with high unemployment. So they could get away with lower wages.
I'm not happy with the changes that allowed the overtime without pay, either.
Things have sucked, world wide, for years. And that's another thing I blame on China (there's some other issues too) who has cheated the system to prop up their otherwise failed system. That important growth factor has gone to them, when there's no way it should have in a fair trade world. And something like Amazon happens, and we all get hurt, except for the few.
I guess my point is this.
This isn't true Capitalism. And the problem is in the world wide scale. Much needs fixed.
Once upon a time....
Is your government encouraging its companies to conduct widespread industrial and technical espionage?
Has your country banned all tourism to another country? Has it followed that up with state media orchestrated boycotts of products from that country?
Is your country ignoring internationally agreed sea borders and building artificial islands to increase its territorial aims?
Partly too, we must judge China on what they will do aboard from what they have done at home. Has the leader of your country replaced the ten commandments in Christian churches with his own doctrinal sayings? Or sent a soldier to live with every family in a Muslim province, while detaining thousands of others to ensure their obedience?
Yes, corporations work with governments, not hand in hand as you seem to think, but closely, though perhaps we mean the same thing there? China though is in its own league, we have been slow to wake up to this.
I am breaking my own rule of not talking about politics on this forum, so I will leave it there, by all means have the last say.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED