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  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member EpicPosts: 7,275
    edited November 2019
    Tiller said:
    MaxBacon said:
    NorseGod said:
    Your only choices at that point is either pay more money to get out of that ship or cut your loses and walk away, because you're not getting a refund.

    Sorry to break into the "only haters allowed" thread, but lies are lies.
    See and there you go with the intentional jab. You just couldn't correct what you call misinformation without making a personal jab and calling people liars. I'm gonna ask if you could please just keep things civil in this discussion, and not make things personal with attacks, unless your real intention is start a flame war again to get the thread shut down; which BTW is against TOS. This is a game discussion and not place to grind your axe with people personally. Thanks in advance.

    You are welcome to file a report. I did quickly edited the post (not quick nuf for your quote) for misinformation wording because there is some chance he doesn't know about the melting system, awareness of it would make it a lie (as it is logical and calling it wouldn't be against rules).

    I do not have intentions of discussing here, countering that misinformation and that about it
    rpmcmurphy
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 14,425
    I'm more used to seeing funny but outlandish bits on Cracked. This just reads like objective reporting :)
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  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy Member EpicPosts: 3,497
    edited November 2019
    MaxBacon said:
    Sorry to break into this "only haters allowed" thread, but you can very well hate SC without rando misinformation

    Civil discourse = hating? For real? Please keep your misinformation for your whiteknight only threads, thanks!

    All the things listed in the article are actually facts, unflattering as they may be.
    NorseGod
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member EpicPosts: 7,275
    edited November 2019
    MaxBacon said:
    Sorry to break into this "only haters allowed" thread, but you can very well hate SC without rando misinformation

    Civil discourse = hating? For real? Please keep your misinformation for your whiteknight only threads, thanks!

    All the things listed in the article are actually facts, unflattering as the may be.
    Context: OP. "Just don’t post and let’s see if we can contain all the “haters” to this thread." "All haters please do not respond to the fans and simply report"

    Don't mind me, feel free to have such a discussion, you're yet to make your first post about it (well tbf you kinda just did, the rest was just about other posters)
  • NorseGodNorseGod Member EpicPosts: 2,634
    Tiller said:
    MaxBacon said:
    NorseGod said:


    He called me a liar?

    Melting ships down isn't even a refund, it's store credit. You still lose money either by a remaining balance of store credit or pay additional cost to upgrade.

    It's no different than buying a $5 pair of socks on a $100 gift card. You're going to lose $95 or spend more than the original $100 trying to use up the remaining balance.

    That's the point of store credit.
    TillerGdemami
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  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy Member EpicPosts: 3,497
    Stir that pot MaxyBoy, stir it hard...
  • TillerTiller Member EpicPosts: 8,880
    NorseGod said:
    Tiller said:
    MaxBacon said:
    NorseGod said:


    He called me a liar?

    Melting ships down isn't even a refund, it's store credit. You still lose money either by a remaining balance of store credit or pay additional cost to upgrade.

    It's no different than buying a $5 pair of socks on a $100 gift card. You're going to lose $95 or spend more than the original $100 trying to use up the remaining balance.

    That's the point of store credit.
    Yeah and how many folks like it when you go to return something to a store that is misleading, broken or not what was advertised and they say "we can only give you instore credit, sorry". Most consumers would be pissed. I guess they are OK with that, whatever. I know I would not be.
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  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member EpicPosts: 7,275
    edited November 2019
    NorseGod said:
    Tiller said:
    MaxBacon said:
    NorseGod said:


    He called me a liar?

    Melting ships down isn't even a refund, it's store credit. You still lose money either by a remaining balance of store credit or pay additional cost to upgrade.

    It's no different than buying a $5 pair of socks on a $100 gift card. You're going to lose $95 or spend more than the original $100 trying to use up the remaining balance.

    That's the point of store credit.

    You said:

    "Your only choices at that point is either pay more money to get out of that ship or cut your loses and walk away, because you're not getting a refund."


    You can melt that ship into credit, and buy another ship without any extra cost, unless that pledge costs more. You do not lose what you do not spend either, you can also use it to buy low-cost stuff as UEC.

    The end of the day, there is an option in that scenario without extra cost.
  • NorseGodNorseGod Member EpicPosts: 2,634
    edited November 2019
    Tiller said:
    NorseGod said:
    Tiller said:
    MaxBacon said:
    NorseGod said:



    Yeah and how many folks like it when you go to return something to a store that is misleading, broken or not what was advertised and they say "we can only give you instore credit, sorry". Most consumers would be pissed. I guess they are OK with that, whatever. I know I would not be.
    You just don't understand store credit development.
    Tiller
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  • MendelMendel Member EpicPosts: 3,913
    NorseGod said:
    Tiller said:
    NorseGod said:
    Tiller said:
    MaxBacon said:
    NorseGod said:



    Yeah and how many folks like it when you go to return something to a store that is misleading, broken or not what was advertised and they say "we can only give you instore credit, sorry". Most consumers would be pissed. I guess they are OK with that, whatever. I know I would not be.
    You just don't understand store credit development.
    Store credit is only valuable if that store sells something different that the customer wants to buy.  That doesn't include concepts like value or product.  If a company was refunding me $1000 because the goods I purchased weren't delivered, what suggests that the next item in the shop will be delivered?

    The company has the money, they aren't giving it back no matter how unsatisfied the customer.



    NorseGodKefo

    Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.

  • MendelMendel Member EpicPosts: 3,913
    MaxBacon said:
    NorseGod said:
    Tiller said:
    MaxBacon said:
    NorseGod said:


    He called me a liar?

    Melting ships down isn't even a refund, it's store credit. You still lose money either by a remaining balance of store credit or pay additional cost to upgrade.

    It's no different than buying a $5 pair of socks on a $100 gift card. You're going to lose $95 or spend more than the original $100 trying to use up the remaining balance.

    That's the point of store credit.

    You said:

    "Your only choices at that point is either pay more money to get out of that ship or cut your loses and walk away, because you're not getting a refund."


    You can melt that ship into credit, and buy another ship without any extra cost, unless that pledge costs more. You do not lose what you do not spend either, you can also use it to buy low-cost stuff as UEC.

    The end of the day, there is an option in that scenario without extra cost.
    Question:  Does the melt operation return the full value of money paid?



    Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.

  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    edited November 2019
    NorseGod said:
    Tiller said:
    <snip>
    <snip>. However, many of the ships still don't have their game loop/gimmick that they were sold upon.

    <snip>
    Did you mean to say that?
    Post edited by gervaise1 on
    Torval
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member EpicPosts: 7,275
    edited November 2019
    Mendel said:
    Question:  Does the melt operation return the full value of money paid?

    It is based on how much you paid yes (not tax if applied). The pledge made towards the game is the core, the ship is the reward for whatever you decided to buy, the melt exists so people can change that reward for some other based on the total they've spent.

    This is not meant to be a cash refund, people use it to change their own hangar, especially when a new ship is released, a lot of people just melt and spend credit.
  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy Member EpicPosts: 3,497
    The ship is not a "reward".

    The ship is the purchase and the funds from the purchase are put towards development. There is no pledge, there is no reward. It is a simple transaction like going to Amazon or your local grocer.
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member EpicPosts: 7,275
    edited November 2019
    The ship is not a "reward".

    The ship is the purchase and the funds from the purchase are put towards development. There is no pledge, there is no reward. It is a simple transaction like going to Amazon or your local grocer.
    It's not that different from Kickstarter reward tiers, pledge X get Y. Every time you pledge for a ship there is a clear disclaimer about this, it's a crowdfunding pledge used on the dev of the game.


    But this is one of those pointless discussions I was on a another discussion recently seeing how some even see kickstarter as a pre-order platform for example.
  • VrikaVrika Member EpicPosts: 6,434
    edited November 2019
    MaxBacon said:
    The ship is not a "reward".

    The ship is the purchase and the funds from the purchase are put towards development. There is no pledge, there is no reward. It is a simple transaction like going to Amazon or your local grocer.
    It's not that different from Kickstarter reward tiers, pledge X get Y. Every time you pledge for a ship there is a clear disclaimer about this, it's a crowdfunding pledge used on the dev of the game.


    But this is one of those pointless discussions I was on a another discussion recently seeing how some even see kickstarter as a pre-order platform for example.
    Back when Star Citizen ran their kickstarter campaign they agreed to either fulfill all rewards or refund. I'm not sure what Kickstarter counts as under its current terms, but back then Kickstarter was a pre-order platform and all those purchases were pre-orders.


    EDIT: I guess current Kickstarter purchases would still be pre-orders, except now it's a conditional where you either receive your promised rewards or the project creator takes the agreed-upon actions should he fail to deliver them
     
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