D4 looks amazing and it will get a lot better since we are looking at 2+ years release date.
They failed to match Project TLs gameplay shown a year ago.
The textures look straight out if PoE.
Not saying it looks bad, but it is not amazing.
The graphics look dated already.
TL I thought looked amazing - Blizzard has time ri fix it but right now TL has D4 beaten hands down in terms of graphics
When have ARPGs ever been graphically impressive? Even the ones that impress on reveal (Lost Ark) look long outdated by the time they launch. The rest of the genre looks at least 5 years behind the times on reveal, because graphics aren't the emphasis with these games; quantity of character models and performance are.
Well PCgamer just confirmed. Blizzard says the game is going to be a "Shared open world game with a non-linear story." With the only thing being instanced is, maybe, dungeons. That is neither confirmed nor denied however.
Dungeons are definitely instanced and randomly generated. The open world zones seem to be static and possibly shared but the shared part is not 100% confirmed cause they were talking about meeting people in towns so it might be that the towns within the open world are shared but the open world itself is not unless you choose to group with people.
Shared world is def confirmed. Lots of videos hitting the internet of people playing the game and they show dozens of people running around the open world and even fighting a world boss.
That twitch streamer someone posted above too talks about 100 players per zone and he entered a dungeon and he could see that 5 people were in the dungeon in various floors. He invited someone to group up with him in everything.
I still hope you can opt-out of this. When playing aRPGs I like to explore everything and a bunch of people messing around just kills it for me.
Hmmm. According to IGN Blizzard says they are developing the game for Xbox One, Ps4, and PC for a same day release. Curious they didn't say next gen consoles. Wonder if this game is coming next fall.
Also in IGN's write up it says that their will be PVP areas of the map so does sound like a destiny style game maybe.
Hmm I think calling D4 destiny style game is a stretch
Not more of a ..stretch then calling D4 , a PoE "clone" in terms of graphics.
Except I never called it a clone of PoE in terms of graphics
You know who called it that - you did.
Lol
See the "" . You were close to call it a clone.
Anyway, educate yourself a bit more about the game you hate please
See it at least until 2:42 . Multiple players are seen which are clearly not in the same party.
What is the max players per map?
Do shared maps have respawning mobs?
They said 100 could be on the same screen, fighting a world boss.
About respawning mobs, I can't tell yet, but if anything, they pretty much need to exist, else it wouldn't make sense for ..10-20-30-50-100 players fighting a world boss only.
If there are respawning mobs - I am out
Channeling your inner Wizardry?
No just can't stand ARPGs with respawning mobs.
It's one mechanic that is a literal - immediate uninstall for me.
Respawning mobs in a single player game is one thing but how the hell would you handle it in an shared world? "So sorry, no mobs for you. DMKano already killed them all 15 minutes ago."
You're basically just saying you don't like shared worlds lol.
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Well PCgamer just confirmed. Blizzard says the game is going to be a "Shared open world game with a non-linear story." With the only thing being instanced is, maybe, dungeons. That is neither confirmed nor denied however.
Dungeons are definitely instanced and randomly generated. The open world zones seem to be static and possibly shared but the shared part is not 100% confirmed cause they were talking about meeting people in towns so it might be that the towns within the open world are shared but the open world itself is not unless you choose to group with people.
Shared world is def confirmed. Lots of videos hitting the internet of people playing the game and they show dozens of people running around the open world and even fighting a world boss.
That twitch streamer someone posted above too talks about 100 players per zone and he entered a dungeon and he could see that 5 people were in the dungeon in various floors. He invited someone to group up with him in everything.
I still hope you can opt-out of this. When playing aRPGs I like to explore everything and a bunch of people messing around just kills it for me.
Confirmed in the opening event, that you can also play solo, with no players around you ( or maybe just in town? ).
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I played Diablo 1 and 2 when I was a kid. I didn't like Diablo 3 although I did play it for like 100 hours.
I feel that although the cinematic is really nice, the gameplay looks like it uses very outdated graphics and feels simply like those rehashes of FIFA every year but with some new features.
Visually, it doesn't look better than Lost Ark and that game is being developed for years. This one has just been announced so we are talking maybe 2 years more of development.
By that time, you would expect to see games, making full use of unreal engine 4 and ray tracing. This will look like playing solitaire in 2 years from now.
Also, don't compare it with the cinematic from Project TL either cause that is cinematic as well. I've seen the gameplay and that is worse than a mobile game graphics.
Well PCgamer just confirmed. Blizzard says the game is going to be a "Shared open world game with a non-linear story." With the only thing being instanced is, maybe, dungeons. That is neither confirmed nor denied however.
Dungeons are definitely instanced and randomly generated. The open world zones seem to be static and possibly shared but the shared part is not 100% confirmed cause they were talking about meeting people in towns so it might be that the towns within the open world are shared but the open world itself is not unless you choose to group with people.
Shared world is def confirmed. Lots of videos hitting the internet of people playing the game and they show dozens of people running around the open world and even fighting a world boss.
That twitch streamer someone posted above too talks about 100 players per zone and he entered a dungeon and he could see that 5 people were in the dungeon in various floors. He invited someone to group up with him in everything.
I still hope you can opt-out of this. When playing aRPGs I like to explore everything and a bunch of people messing around just kills it for me.
Confirmed in the opening event, that you can also play solo, with no players around you ( or maybe just in town? ).
That is fantastic news. Means that if I choose to play solo I can
Here is a list with what they announced it in the opening event. Does not include the presentation after that.
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I don't care so much what it looks like right now, If I can't make or join a game public or private and name that game, have at least 8 players in the game and go hostile/into town etc. I wont' touch it.
All I saw was diablo 3.5, its almost 2020 why cant we use a game engine that isn't a potato to make the game? Also the minute I saw mounts my mind instantly went to lets see how monetization looks..
After looking between d4 and TL , NcSoft has the bettrer game simply because TL is an mmorpg like Lineage 1.
Indeed, Project TL is a mmorpg regarding what..others are saying it in here.
Plus, let's not forget for how long Project TL , Lineage Eternal or whatever the name will be, have been in production and how many times they "remake" it in this time.
If D4 follows the D3 release ..timeline, then it will release in around 4 years from now on. So D4 has plenty of time to get graphics, interface, skills , etc updates. I'm not worried about this. Blizzard always delivered in terms of polish, including graphics.
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That's the real deal right there IMO - not this Diablo 3.5 thing they showed.
So you complain that the D4 videos look "boring" and the graphics meh, but you are all in for a D2 remaster, which I highly suspect wouldn't get a full graphics make over, or engine. Most likely some updated shaders, textures, few UI modifications, but it would still have the same older, clunky combat feel (which in 2000 felt great for its time, not so much today)
I'd rather have completely new classes tbh. Things like Witch Doctor or Demon Hunter, let's break some new ground. Maybe even an Iron Wolf of sorts? So much potential, but we'll most likely get nostalgia pandering /meh.
This is exactly why I want both D4 AND D2:Remaster. So that old stays old(just spiffed up) and new stays new, without any need to pointlessly pander to nostalgia. Take the Barb Arsenal system. Wouldn't it be cooler if we played as an Iron Wolf who seemlessly changed between magic, hand crossbows and melee(or some martial artist from Wizard land)? /meh what do I know?
Look. I'm a simple man. I want to punch demons and gods in the face. Call it a monk, brawler, ninja, pugilist, whatever. I don't care whether it's "new" or not. It's awesome.
The gameplay looks neat, but it has to be seen if it's better than POE. You really have to create something special in order to beat a good and FREE game like POE.
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You're basically just saying you don't like shared worlds lol.
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I feel that although the cinematic is really nice, the gameplay looks like it uses very outdated graphics and feels simply like those rehashes of FIFA every year but with some new features.
Visually, it doesn't look better than Lost Ark and that game is being developed for years. This one has just been announced so we are talking maybe 2 years more of development.
By that time, you would expect to see games, making full use of unreal engine 4 and ray tracing. This will look like playing solitaire in 2 years from now.
Also, don't compare it with the cinematic from Project TL either cause that is cinematic as well. I've seen the gameplay and that is worse than a mobile game graphics.
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I am uncertain whether I will like shared world. It all depends on how much others can impact my fun. If they ruin it then no.
Indeed, Project TL is a mmorpg regarding what..others are saying it in here.
Plus, let's not forget for how long Project TL , Lineage Eternal or whatever the name will be, have been in production and how many times they "remake" it in this time.
If D4 follows the D3 release ..timeline, then it will release in around 4 years from now on. So D4 has plenty of time to get graphics, interface, skills , etc updates. I'm not worried about this. Blizzard always delivered in terms of polish, including graphics.
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
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the continues moving the easy route.
i would love to see wow in a new engine. for example.
thank god for indi companies... that try new shit
Guess they were proud of that engine and they had to frontline it.
You really have to create something special in order to beat a good and FREE game like POE.
We need more info before we can make a judgement.
all those styles are very different, and I cant see them being blended in. Witch Doctor nobody will miss, as Druid is worlds better