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ArcheAge Unchained in-game economy already destroyed by exploits

yonpachiyonpachi Member UncommonPosts: 155
edited October 2019 in ArcheAge
If you don't know what's happening lately with ArcheAge Unchained, there's currently a bug in their ArchePass system, allowing you to gain 800gold easily everyday. People are already racking up thousands of golds on their bank, more golds than you could ever farm for months.

How could this bug ever make it on launch despite weeks long PTS server, and half month delays is beyond me.

So far, Gamigo haven't "act" , only "acknowledging" it. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/archeage/comments/djp9lq/exploit_archepass_world_boss_quest_abuse/
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  • RobokappRobokapp Member RarePosts: 6,208
    this game is fun to follow...every time it releases.
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  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    edited October 2019
    It's not even an exploit. The ArchePass quests give crazy amounts of gold when you are at ancestral level. It probably needs lowering or they need to add more variation to the quests you are given because it makes everything else you can do to earn gold pointless but it's not an 'exploit'. Everybody can earn that much when they are higher level.
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  • XiaokiXiaoki Member RarePosts: 3,358
    edited October 2019
    It's not even an exploit. The ArchePass quests give crazy amounts of gold when you are at ancestral level. It probably needs lowering or they need to add more variation to the quests you are given because it makes everything else you can do to earn gold pointless but it's not an 'exploit'. Everybody can earn that much when they are higher level.
    It is an exploit.

    These ArchePass daily quests are supposed to be random.

    Killing a world boss gives the most gold and people have found a way to get the world boss daily for all ArchePass quests.

    It explains the exploit in the link, did you read it?
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  • yonpachiyonpachi Member UncommonPosts: 155
    It's not even an exploit. The ArchePass quests give crazy amounts of gold when you are at ancestral level. It probably needs lowering or they need to add more variation to the quests you are given because it makes everything else you can do to earn gold pointless but it's not an 'exploit'. Everybody can earn that much when they are higher level.
    You realise the game is balanced around gold right? There is NO WAY getting 800 gold per day without breaking a sweat without consuming single labor points is not game breaking.
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  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,124
    LOL R.I.P guess we don't even need Pay 2 Win to break a game :P...

    It does suck because Arche Age was the bomb back in the day but Trion and non responsible developers / publishers have ruined one of the best games in my eyes.
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  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,817
    So... Players who purchased it with credit card, the bill is not even paid and the game is already ruined?

    Well, that was quick.
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  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,272
    I honestly wouldn't put the sole blame on Gamigo for this (not defending them, trust me). Sounds like this is equally XL's fault as well. Either way, the fall out from this is worth the money watching and I haven't even given them a cent.
  • xD_GamingxD_Gaming Member EpicPosts: 2,673
    Hold the phone, you mean oold exploits still work ?

























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  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,825
    DMKano said:
    Renoaku said:
    LOL R.I.P guess we don't even need Pay 2 Win to break a game :P...

    It does suck because Arche Age was the bomb back in the day but Trion and non responsible developers / publishers have ruined one of the best games in my eyes.

    Yep Trion signed a shit contract with super greedy XL and totally ruined their reputation. 

    There was no recovery as they just got way too greedy - both companies got what they deserved. Trion failing the way they did 100% deserved.

    All the people thinking that Gamigo will be better - lol - nope, just wait and see how fast they buckle and faceplant
    I still don't get how people seem to think that somehow Gamigo isn't going to be pushed into the same arrangement.

    Once those package sales dry up, they are going to push the P2W right on back in IMO.
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  • NephethNepheth Member RarePosts: 449
    Well Blizzard literally screwed the in game economy in WoW Classic with the layering bug aaaaand nobody talked about it in this forum until Blizzard took action and finally gave an explanation. Gamigo did a mistake with the new battlepass system, which as far as I read that's not even a big one, and same members as always like they're doing for WEEKS started to act like everything is ruined, the game is dead and like they won some kind of a war or something I guess. You're really pathetic.

    It's like literally the same people every single time. I have never seen something like this before. Why would someone wants a game to die so desperately and follow every single shit about it nonstop is beyond me. Some people here only enjoys drama, failure and feed from negativity. This website started to feel like a social experiment at this point. I can't believe I enjoy r/MMORPG a lot more than here these days. I hated that place before. But that subreddit feels like a safe haven compered to this forum at this point...
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 36,357

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  • XiaokiXiaoki Member RarePosts: 3,358
    Kyleran said:
    Super mega LOL

    Hey @TheDarkrayne I guess Gamigo are part of the camp of low IQ idiots that believe this exploit exists.
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  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    edited October 2019
    LOL, they are nerfing the gold and that is literally all they are going to do. Just like I said they should. You will still be able to cycle your quests because it's an intended feature and costs Gilda, which is much more valuable than gold. They're only labelling it an exploit to stop people doing it until they apply the nerf. You don't nerf an exploit, you remove it.
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  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    DMKano said:
    LOL, they are nerfing the gold and that is literally all they are going to do. Just like I said they should. You will still be able to cycle your quests because it's an intended feature and costs Gilda, which is much more valuable than gold. They're only labelling it an exploit to stop people doing it until they apply the nerf. You don't nerf an exploit, you remove it.

    Still not an exploit though right?
    They balanced the rewards wrong, nothing more. I know you're intelligent enough that you already know that.
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  • RhoklawRhoklaw Member EpicPosts: 7,138
    I'm sure this will all be cleared up, patched and hot fixed by the time they roll out Gamigo's version of Fresh Start Servers.


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  • TEKK3NTEKK3N Member RarePosts: 1,115
    The same exploits of 5 years ago which were the cause of me quitting?
    Great job!!!!!
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  • iixviiiixiixviiiix Member RarePosts: 2,131
    They should just remove the daily quests from start and forcus on trading system for making gold instead .

    I don't understand Jake Song , is he turn in to plushie after all of what happen ?

    If i understand right , this is B2P server , right ? why the even bored to keep all the f2P mechanic from legacy servers ?

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 36,357
    iixviiiix said:
    They should just remove the daily quests from start and forcus on trading system for making gold instead .

    I don't understand Jake Song , is he turn in to plushie after all of what happen ?

    If i understand right , this is B2P server , right ? why the even bored to keep all the f2P mechanic from legacy servers ?

    It is challenging to maintain multiple versions of any software with some systems so heavily integrated it's not always easy or even possible to disable them.

    Not saying this is the situation,  perhaps they just couldn't be bothered.

     :D

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  • HarikenHariken Member EpicPosts: 2,510
    It's funny watching all this. 
  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,383
    This raises an interesting question about exploits.

    Let's say a company means to make the reward for a quest 10 gold, and accidently makes it 10,000 gold instead. In the context, let's say it is obvious that it is a mistake. Taking that gold I feel would be an exploit.

    But let's say instead that the company actually means to make it 10,000 gold. There is no mistake. Only it turns out that such design is STUPID. Later the company, realizing it did something stupid, calls it an exploit instead and puts the blame on the players. Is that really an exploit? Or is that a game company with no accountability?

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 28,620
    Amathe said:
    This raises an interesting question about exploits.

    Let's say a company means to make the reward for a quest 10 gold, and accidently makes it 10,000 gold instead. In the context, let's say it is obvious that it is a mistake. Taking that gold I feel would be an exploit.

    But let's say instead that the company actually means to make it 10,000 gold. There is no mistake. Only it turns out that such design is STUPID. Later the company, realizing it did something stupid, calls it an exploit instead and puts the blame on the players. Is that really an exploit? Or is that a game company with no accountability?
    That's a little tin foil hat to me.

    It's assuming that they are always going to try to cover their butt at the expense of their customers. Maybe this happens but I bet that a good amount of companies would catch that mistake and fess up. 
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  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,383
    Sovrath said:
    That's a little tin foil hat to me.

    I think it sounds silly to place that much confidence in people's willingness to admit their own errors in judgment. Especially when it concerns their livelihood.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 36,357
    Sovrath said:
    Amathe said:
    This raises an interesting question about exploits.

    Let's say a company means to make the reward for a quest 10 gold, and accidently makes it 10,000 gold instead. In the context, let's say it is obvious that it is a mistake. Taking that gold I feel would be an exploit.

    But let's say instead that the company actually means to make it 10,000 gold. There is no mistake. Only it turns out that such design is STUPID. Later the company, realizing it did something stupid, calls it an exploit instead and puts the blame on the players. Is that really an exploit? Or is that a game company with no accountability?
    That's a little tin foil hat to me.

    It's assuming that they are always going to try to cover their butt at the expense of their customers. Maybe this happens but I bet that a good amount of companies would catch that mistake and fess up. 
    Well of course,  unless we're talking about Bethesda.

    ;)

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  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member EpicPosts: 3,379


    damn and I was betting something would broke in 3 months

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