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Fallout 76 Private Worlds May Not Be New Worlds, May Not Actually Be Private - MMORPG.com

SystemSystem Member UncommonPosts: 12,599
edited October 2019 in News & Features Discussion

imageFallout 76 Private Worlds May Not Be New Worlds, May Not Actually Be Private - MMORPG.com

It looks like the advertised private worlds as part of Bethesda's $100 a year Fallout 76 subscription, Fallout 1st, may not be private after all.

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  • MooncubusMooncubus Member UncommonPosts: 22
    You're essentially saying people on your friends list can join your private world. No shit, that's the point.
    As for clipboards magically spawning or disappearing that's part of the normal game generation.
    You're conflating non issues just to try and find problems because it's popular to hate on this game.
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  • BrotherMaynardBrotherMaynard Member RarePosts: 630
    Bethesda forgets to register the domain name: visit the official Fallout 76 subscription website http://www.falloutfirst.com for more info.

    Or have a read with your morning coffee or afternoon beer:



    Full resolution: https://postimg.cc/9zKDK7MX


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  • foppoteefoppotee Member RarePosts: 533
    I figure if this even goes halfway decent for Bethesda they'll try this or something similar down the road with Elder Scrolls 6 &/or Starfield. I wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot pole.
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 7,990
    Hahahahahahahahahaha!

    BETHESDA!
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  • RedMachine72RedMachine72 Member UncommonPosts: 154
    BETHESDA.....screwing the consumer over $1- $100 at a time.
  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 7,990
    New Bethesda is like Activision, if they were staffed entirely by drunken lemmings!
  • SkeeterslintSkeeterslint Member UncommonPosts: 71
    After the way this game launched is this a shock?
  • ShankTheTankShankTheTank Associate Editor / News ManagerMMORPG.COM Staff, Member RarePosts: 229

    You're conflating non issues just to try and find problems because it's popular to hate on this game.


    Ok.
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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,559
    edited October 2019
    Haha new this was gonna be just more big fails.....lmao They really need to rename this to Failout 76!
    Gorwe

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  • AsheramAsheram Member EpicPosts: 5,072

    Mooncubus said:

    You're essentially saying people on your friends list can join your private world. No shit, that's the point.

    As for clipboards magically spawning or disappearing that's part of the normal game generation.

    You're conflating non issues just to try and find problems because it's popular to hate on this game.



    So how do you explain the players that have logged into their "private " servers with mobs already dead and looted?

    Seems they need to figure out how to reset the server before you enter it.
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671

    Mooncubus said:

    You're essentially saying people on your friends list can join your private world. No shit, that's the point.

    As for clipboards magically spawning or disappearing that's part of the normal game generation.

    You're conflating non issues just to try and find problems because it's popular to hate on this game.



    I always love it when company employees have time to come here and tell us about their projects. It makes this site feel special. Keep up the good work Bethesda!
    bartoni33TacticalZombehThe_Kodell
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,403

    Torval said:

    That's sort of the big joke with this game, you're not really renting a server. Users are renting a private instance on their server. When you really rent a private persistent server for Minecraft, ARK, or other games you have control over the configs, rules, and mods.

    Bethesda is charging solo players an annual subscription fee that includes a little extra storage and some game cash. It's like an MMO without the content or the MMO part. :lol:


    Yeah I would have paid $15 a month for a true private server that was persistent and configurable. The more I hear about this the worse it gets.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,879

    Torval said:

    That's sort of the big joke with this game, you're not really renting a server. Users are renting a private instance on their server. When you really rent a private persistent server for Minecraft, ARK, or other games you have control over the configs, rules, and mods.

    Bethesda is charging solo players an annual subscription fee that includes a little extra storage and some game cash. It's like an MMO without the content or the MMO part. :lol:



    Hmm, you mean sort of like how ESO does it?

    Weird.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,879

    Arterius said:


    Mooncubus said:

    You're essentially saying people on your friends list can join your private world. No shit, that's the point.

    As for clipboards magically spawning or disappearing that's part of the normal game generation.

    You're conflating non issues just to try and find problems because it's popular to hate on this game.


    As someone who supports Fallout 76 and bought into this program. Its is not a non-issue and they are not conflating the issue. They promised something and they lied. Thats a big deal



    Bethedsa lied about something...go figure...

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  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    edited October 2019
    I think Bethesda is a bit late to the party with their $100 pre-alpha access...




  • AlverantAlverant Member RarePosts: 1,340
    How soon before people start demanding refunds? Didn't Bethesda promise all this stuff would be free back when the game first released?
    Scot
  • BC_AnimusBC_Animus Member UncommonPosts: 115
    @Bethesda it's too early for April Fool's!
  • xybedoutxybedout Member UncommonPosts: 58

    Mooncubus said:

    You're essentially saying people on your friends list can join your private world. No shit, that's the point.

    As for clipboards magically spawning or disappearing that's part of the normal game generation.

    You're conflating non issues just to try and find problems because it's popular to hate on this game.



    They can jump in without invite. Not all people on a friends list are always friends. Sometimes players keep contacts for trading with. Besides, I should have the option to play ALONE without my friends, whether they be real or not, jumping in as they please.

    Clipboards is one test case (there were other shown) to show the problem that server hoppers can loot a server and you get spawned into something that was messed with. The idea behind private servers should be that you get a clean instance when you start and it state reflects only what you, and those you invite to it, do in it.

    These are not non-issues. We need to call out Beth on this crap else it will get worse. Seriously, most of the features in Fallout 1st should have been free and available at release. But I guess you are what one would call "fanboy" so no way you will be able to see clearly from other perspective.
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  • VolenibbletsVolenibblets Member UncommonPosts: 246
    Don't worry, the plot I have on the moon for sale for 100 dollars will be entirely private. It's a bit buggy what with the lack of air but a bargain none the less.
    Scot
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,023
    edited October 2019
    The likes of EA and Activision must be sitting there furious at the one-upmanship of Bethesda beating them at their own game of dodgy business practice. Their directors must be looking over now at the trophies they got for being the worst gaming company from the likes of the Levelskip awards. They must be thinking what chance have we got in 2019 with Bethesda on such a roll?

    https://levelskip.com/misc/Worst-Video-Game-Companies
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    edited October 2019
    1. There's no excuse for implementing this cash grab in a way that anyone on your friends list can just join. It should require a one-time active permission or at least a permission toggle whether you're on the list or not. Just being that guy that you traded with 6 months ago and haven't spoken to since shouldn't automatically do the trick. But I guess that required extra development so they cheaped out... again.

    2. The other "not a fresh instance" bit I'll give them some rope and let them explain. It's possible that there is something at work here to prevent exploiting the resources in a private instance and then using those resources in the public game. If they are doing something like that then those private instances may be keeping track of what you do in public instances and adjusting the private one's log-in state accordingly. Given their history of incompetence I may be giving them too much credit but it's possible that this is what's happening here.

    3. People actually bought into this? lol <Insert the only meme @Rhoklaw knows here>

    4. @Kyleran Yes Zenimax has also done some really shitty things with ESO monetization (loot crates, the yearly-DLC-that-shall-not-be-called-a-DLC, some sub perks that should be base game, etc.) but Bethesda when it comes to live service games, is like their buggier, idiot cousin. If ESO were to sell you a private instance so you could solo without seeing anyone, that would be a closer equivalent. But of course they don't because the idea of doing that in an honest to goodness MMO is ridiculous and no one wants that. FO76 is a single player game shoehorned into a live service for no reason other than profit - it's not an MMO - so the players there obviously do want to be able to play solo or with just a handful of friends. Apples and oranges. I guess providing an off-line mode for free would have been just too difficult for their minimum wage interns to implement.
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  • ThaneThane Member EpicPosts: 3,534

    DMKano said:

    I have 3 words for Bethesda



    Class action lawsuit



    or as bathesda would phrase it "you deserve it" <3

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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 7,990
    DMKano said:
    I have 3 words for Bethesda

    Class action lawsuit
    Bethesda has 3 words for you:

    It just works!
  • ElsaboltsElsabolts Member RarePosts: 3,476
    Im not sure this is gonna work long term, I think im just gonna wait abit before I get this deal.
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  • DaceDace Member UncommonPosts: 8
    After selling and rebooting skyrim for like 20 times people should expect from them nothing but greed. Sadly people keep supporting pos companies like this and it will only get worse.
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