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Astellia Review In Progress - Part 2

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  • NanbinoNanbino Member UncommonPosts: 114
    I'd rather spend money and time ordering korean bbq.
    KyleranDMKanoPhry
  • gunklackergunklacker Member UncommonPosts: 247

    doomex said:

    Well, i will give Astellia a 6/10 because they know how to bait people into purchasing a mediocre b2p product. Game is not that bad but not good either. There are far more better games for that price. Now GuildWars2 is 30$ with both expansions.

    The devs are good bunch tho. They tried to change a p2w game into b2p without p2w elements. It's challenging because the game is bland one also.

    So if you like the game and like to spend money on every game that appears no matter how bad is it. Go for it.



    I payed 9$ for 1 month of play, so it dont have to be b2p
  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,640
    Nanbino said:
    I'd rather spend money and time ordering korean bbq.
    Money well spent
    Albatroes
  • NeoyoshiNeoyoshi Member UncommonPosts: 134
    edited October 6
    I feel like i may have given Astellia an unfair personal impression due to still working through my "Bless PTSD"

    In the past i've experienced korean mmorpg titles go through various stages of it's lifespan, and the one's that always filled me with little bits of pessimism, were the one's that shut down completely before they had a chance to really flourish.

    Bless Online shutting down was just part of a long line of mmo's I've witness shutdowns in my life, so i think when Astellia came along; mentally i just wasn't ready to give it any of my attention, because at that point- i had already guarded myself from the prospect of yet another game shutdown.

    That's not a great mental habit to get into, and i realized it was putting blinders on me and keeping me from experiencing the joys of discovery in yet another virtual realm.

    Yes, on the surface it may appear mediocre, it's certainly repeating things we've all seen many times before; but there is an odd charm to the Astal aspects- so... there is that.

    I've told myself i'll give it a month, so i'm playing it for a month. I want to give it a fair shake.

    MikehaTacticalZombeh

  • yonpachiyonpachi Member UncommonPosts: 132
    Excuse me but why the fuck do I need to pay 10$ to try your game and then buy it for full price?
    https://www.astellia-mmo.com/shop/subscription

    It's 2019, either give free trial up to a certain level or play time or if you are going greedy and charging 10$ per month, at least make the game 10$ cheaper afterwards. You can limit this to maximum 1 month of discount (10$) but don't get greedy as fuck and try to milk your customers. This just screams that you are not confident your game is good enough and you are trying to milk as much money as possible before going f2p and full p2w.

    Personally, because of this change and "listening to your playerbase" bullshit, I am not touching the game. If you really listened to the players, and that's what you came up with, then you are clearly the next Bless or Revelation Online
    doomex
  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,640
    yonpachi said:
    Excuse me but why the fuck do I need to pay 10$ to try your game and then buy it for full price?
    https://www.astellia-mmo.com/shop/subscription

    It's 2019, either give free trial up to a certain level or play time or if you are going greedy and charging 10$ per month, at least make the game 10$ cheaper afterwards. You can limit this to maximum 1 month of discount (10$) but don't get greedy as fuck and try to milk your customers. This just screams that you are not confident your game is good enough and you are trying to milk as much money as possible before going f2p and full p2w.

    Personally, because of this change and "listening to your playerbase" bullshit, I am not touching the game. If you really listened to the players, and that's what you came up with, then you are clearly the next Bless or Revelation Online
    It's a cash grab.

    The game failed in Korea- it's in maint mode there - western launch is just pure $ grab
    Ozmodan
  • DhampirDhampir Member UncommonPosts: 65
    Im actually enjoying the game...yes its not perfect...but it has different elements in it than others. Ill get my money worth out of it.
    KyleranMikeha
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  • titanofdoomtitanofdoom Member UncommonPosts: 207
    I don't wish to be wicked, but that was a execrably written synopsis, I cringed whilst pouring over parts...unless English isn't your native argot of course, then I beg your pardon!
    Kyleran
    Perennially extricating the extraneous
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 21,255
    yonpachi said:
    Excuse me but why the fuck do I need to pay 10$ to try your game and then buy it for full price?
    https://www.astellia-mmo.com/shop/subscription

    It's 2019, either give free trial up to a certain level or play time or if you are going greedy and charging 10$ per month, at least make the game 10$ cheaper afterwards. You can limit this to maximum 1 month of discount (10$) but don't get greedy as fuck and try to milk your customers. This just screams that you are not confident your game is good enough and you are trying to milk as much money as possible before going f2p and full p2w.

    Personally, because of this change and "listening to your playerbase" bullshit, I am not touching the game. If you really listened to the players, and that's what you came up with, then you are clearly the next Bless or Revelation Online
    Think of it as a subscription game with a $10/month subscription and an option to buy a lifetime subscription for $30.  Most games with a lifetime subscription option charge a lot more than $30, and I'm not aware of any that count months subscribed as a deduction toward the cost of the lifetime subscription.

    I expect that if they stay with this business model (admittedly, a huge "if"), they'll eventually offer a free trial.  But you don't offer the free trials on launch day.  You offer them substantially later as a way to boost a sagging playerbase.
    Iselin
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 21,255
    Neoyoshi said:
    I feel like i may have given Astellia an unfair personal impression due to still working through my "Bless PTSD"

    In the past i've experienced korean mmorpg titles go through various stages of it's lifespan, and the one's that always filled me with little bits of pessimism, were the one's that shut down completely before they had a chance to really flourish.

    Bless Online shutting down was just part of a long line of mmo's I've witness shutdowns in my life, so i think when Astellia came along; mentally i just wasn't ready to give it any of my attention, because at that point- i had already guarded myself from the prospect of yet another game shutdown.

    That's not a great mental habit to get into, and i realized it was putting blinders on me and keeping me from experiencing the joys of discovery in yet another virtual realm.

    Yes, on the surface it may appear mediocre, it's certainly repeating things we've all seen many times before; but there is an odd charm to the Astal aspects- so... there is that.

    I've told myself i'll give it a month, so i'm playing it for a month. I want to give it a fair shake.

    Don't be afraid of playing a game just because it seems likely to shut down someday.  All MMORPGs will shut down someday, and it's only a question of when.  Plenty of games can be fun in the meantime.

    I don't regret my time playing Kritika Online, even though I picked it up late in the game's lifetime and it would shut down not long after, and even though I'm probably the only regular on this site who liked the game at all.  The combat was really good, and I had fun there.

    Rather, what you should fear is wasting your time on a game that isn't fun.  If it becomes clear that a game just isn't fun and isn't going to get better, then it's time to quit, whether you've given the game an hour or a week or a year.  That's true regardless of how much money you've already sunk into the game, and how much time is left on a subscription.

    Play the games that you find fun, not the ones that random other people whom you'll never even meet think are fun.  Reward the developers who make games that you like, not the ones who do things that random other people like.
    MikehagunklackerKylerandoomex
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 21,255
    DMKano said:
    yonpachi said:
    Excuse me but why the fuck do I need to pay 10$ to try your game and then buy it for full price?
    https://www.astellia-mmo.com/shop/subscription

    It's 2019, either give free trial up to a certain level or play time or if you are going greedy and charging 10$ per month, at least make the game 10$ cheaper afterwards. You can limit this to maximum 1 month of discount (10$) but don't get greedy as fuck and try to milk your customers. This just screams that you are not confident your game is good enough and you are trying to milk as much money as possible before going f2p and full p2w.

    Personally, because of this change and "listening to your playerbase" bullshit, I am not touching the game. If you really listened to the players, and that's what you came up with, then you are clearly the next Bless or Revelation Online
    It's a cash grab.

    The game failed in Korea- it's in maint mode there - western launch is just pure $ grab
    If your choice of a subscription or buy to play is a "cash grab", is there any business model that can't be described as that?  Aren't all commercial companies that make games trying to make money off of them?
  • NorseGodNorseGod Member EpicPosts: 2,455
    Iselin said:
    Cynehild said:

    I don't speak for everyone else but yes, I do like most of the MMOs that don't have sexualized little girls in them,

    Any male adults who like this should have to explain very clearly why they're OK with that and then get registered with the local police department... I kid... no I don't.
    I customized a main character, want me to send it to you?
    Kyleran
    To talk about games without the censorship, check out https://www.reddit.com/r/MMORPG/
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