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My opinion on delay.
delete5230
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The world is barely started. Like everyone here, I'm thinking whats the hold up ?
Brads big selling point seem to be in heavy class design,
He likes to offer many choices for character building. This allows the player to build themselves up how they see fit, so they can bring something valuable to a group. This can potently make every group a different experience.
In my opinion Vanguard classes had NOTHING similar to each other. Every mmorpg tries, but Brad seems to be the master of it. Visionary Realms is trying to out do Vanguard in this respect.
Maybe it's my imagination running wild, but it also seems the player has to find abilities in the world. More things to make themselves unique...... Adding such abilities is as simple as plop the item on the ground. The harder part is to make them work and balance, all 400 of them. You don't need the world for that !
This is a "very complicated puzzle" and more time needs spent than any other mmorpg.
People are making assumptions of what the "Vision" is. They think the vision is easy. They think they already know !!!..... Maybe I'm wrong too, I'm not Brad !!!!
Lets hope building the world comes easy when it's time,
MAYBE the world is out sourced to another team, and is 10%,20%, 30%, 70% done and is kept secret. MAYBE Brad put his reliance and faith in others to do so, and doesn't even care.... who knows ?
My friend has a bat shit crazy sister.... It's impossible to out guess her.
Brads big selling point seem to be in heavy class design,
He likes to offer many choices for character building. This allows the player to build themselves up how they see fit, so they can bring something valuable to a group. This can potently make every group a different experience.
In my opinion Vanguard classes had NOTHING similar to each other. Every mmorpg tries, but Brad seems to be the master of it. Visionary Realms is trying to out do Vanguard in this respect.
Maybe it's my imagination running wild, but it also seems the player has to find abilities in the world. More things to make themselves unique...... Adding such abilities is as simple as plop the item on the ground. The harder part is to make them work and balance, all 400 of them. You don't need the world for that !
This is a "very complicated puzzle" and more time needs spent than any other mmorpg.
People are making assumptions of what the "Vision" is. They think the vision is easy. They think they already know !!!..... Maybe I'm wrong too, I'm not Brad !!!!
Lets hope building the world comes easy when it's time,
MAYBE the world is out sourced to another team, and is 10%,20%, 30%, 70% done and is kept secret. MAYBE Brad put his reliance and faith in others to do so, and doesn't even care.... who knows ?
My friend has a bat shit crazy sister.... It's impossible to out guess her.
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The Pantheon team (along with most other indie studios) lack the financial resources to bring such games quickly (or if ever) to market, at least not as promised.
Even when there's plenty of money to go around (i.e. SC) most of these teams are trying to deliver features that IMO outstretch their current resource capabilities.
Hence they become "the song that never ends."
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"They" maybe over stretching themselves.
Like your saying expensive and difficult to make, that's a given.
However that's true for any mmorpg endeavor that will happen in the future.
This is our best shot, maybe our last shot... the more expensive the less chance of a Triple A.
Better yet they maybe on or ahead of target...many of us are assuming all kinds of stuff.
Let them work.
Or perhaps not thinking?
Okay....err, what was the question again?
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
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have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?"
- Pink Floyd
Sorry that somehow reminded me of that. Carry on. Nothing to see. Amathe has low blood sugar.
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Cheers.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
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I'll go now.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
As much as I agree that MMO's are in a depressing state at this point in time, I sincerely doubt it will remain that way.. And if you build this game up in your mind the way you are you are very likely to be disappointed.
This is an indie team trying to bring back "The golden age" of MMO's, community, adventure, teamwork all the stuff that we are supposedly missing in our modern MMO's. But can they really deliver?
You think they are putting all this effort into highly unique classes with deep customization..
They are launching with 12 classes, do you think that is within the realm of possibilities for them?
Do you think they are capable of balancing 12 classes at all? They have there work cut out for them.
I would dial down my expectations. I also hope the game is great, I am just not pinning all my hopes and dreams on an indie development team.
could he keep it up until the game launches?
The world may never know Mr. Owl.
Forums are for discussing things, whatever people like, but require a pretty thick skin sometimes.
Doesn't excuse that fact sometime folks overstep their bounds, including me. He wasn't wrong, I was acting like one.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
You are WAY over thinking Pantheon.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
Hopefully it will be for only a short time.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon