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Players can now get three pets for free!

Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,744
Never thought I'd see the day, but starting with maintenance tomorrow, players will be able to get three pets through one time in game quests!

https://community.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?threads/maintenance-regular-maintenance-october-2nd-2019.485578/

It's always been one of the top complaints that BDO pretty much forces new players to buy pets, with the alternative being them suffering through having to manually loot every mob (which gets tedious fast, since you kill more mobs a second than in a damned Dynasty Warriors game).

Definitely a step in the right direction IMO :smile:

Good job, Pearl Abyss!

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Comments

  • kitaradkitarad Member EpicPosts: 5,276
    I enjoyed BDO a lot. I never used more than one pet but for many this is a good thing.

  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,737
    Reality- you want all your pets to be tier 4


    So while nice - 3 pets won't get you to t4
    Mikeha
  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    DMKano said:
    Reality- you want all your pets to be tier 4


    So while nice - 3 pets won't get you to t4
    What is so good about Tier 4 pets that you need even one of them, just having 3 tier 1 pets at level 10, which doesn't take that long is more than enough to handle loot drops. Fairy's give better abilities after all, the one i have gives autopotions +15 secs underwater and a light if i need it along with the usual luck bonus. :/
    Mikeha
  • yonpachiyonpachi Member UncommonPosts: 132
    Wish they would do more of these https://www.sea.playblackdesert.com/Community/Detail?topicNo=25834&topicType=1 

    The game has the most "pay to convenience" I've ever seen on mmos.
  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,737
    edited October 2
    Phry said:
    DMKano said:
    Reality- you want all your pets to be tier 4


    So while nice - 3 pets won't get you to t4
    What is so good about Tier 4 pets that you need even one of them, just having 3 tier 1 pets at level 10, which doesn't take that long is more than enough to handle loot drops. Fairy's give better abilities after all, the one i have gives autopotions +15 secs underwater and a light if i need it along with the usual luck bonus. :/

    This is not correct at high kill speed PvE for classes that can clear super fast - like musa at 250+ AP

    Even at all pets at t4 - you will still clear faster than pets can loot, pets at t1 are garbage - they run slower and loot slower by 1 second

    Here's the actual info from a guy who did an extensive study on pets in BDO:

    "Hi, I'm the guy who made the spreadsheet smashing a shit ton of pets. To answer your question you need to consider birds vs ground and NA vs KR pets.

    The short answer is : as stated by a guy below. T4 pets loot roughly 33% faster. HOWEVER, they can improve looting amount by up to 2x the amount of loot in some areas."

    The reason for this is, T4 pets in addition to having faster loot time of about 1 second, they have faster movespeed so they are always by your side as well as no animation pickup. This means if you are a fast grinder/ fast moving class that goes to an area that has a long travel time in btw packs you benefit from T4 pets alot more.

    T4 pets also give you an additional pet skill which can give 3% exp/+1 luck/gathering etc. Though you can have them on T3.

    T4 pets if using Fox/Polar bear also give higher unique skill values ie 5% durability reduction with fox or +50 LT with polar bear.

    Agile mode decreases the cooldown in which your pet can loot another another item at the cost of depleting the hunger bar faster.

    T1 pets are absolutely garbage in comparison and you should just probably lifeskill instead. T3 pet is suitable for most players, but T4 pets are the best.

    The profit difference depends on the area in which you grind in the end and your GS. But the tests, which I will put out when done (need a larger sample size), of grinding fogans with T1 vs T4 killing the exact same number of mobs (250,000, found out with marni stones), is the difference between 5mill and 18mill avg so far. With T3 pets on agile vs T4 the difference is 12mill vs 18mill.

    In terms of trash drops only (no scrolls/seraphs) it's T1 = 2135.6 T3 = 4832.7 T4= 7652.9 in the data I have collected so far.

    edit: note final data is not even close to done, this is only over the course of 3 runs on each tier pet. (though I'm getting demotivated each time I do it due to the HUGE profit loss from T1 pets)



    Bottom line - t1 pets are garbage as you are losing a ton of loot because they just wont be able to keep up with you


    Remember that BDO rewards players that spend money - so spending about $300 to get decent t4 pets (more if you are unlucky) will put you head and shoulders above those running around with t1 pets

    KyleranScotMikeha
  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    DMKano said:
    Phry said:
    DMKano said:
    Reality- you want all your pets to be tier 4


    So while nice - 3 pets won't get you to t4
    What is so good about Tier 4 pets that you need even one of them, just having 3 tier 1 pets at level 10, which doesn't take that long is more than enough to handle loot drops. Fairy's give better abilities after all, the one i have gives autopotions +15 secs underwater and a light if i need it along with the usual luck bonus. :/

    This is not correct at high kill speed PvE for classes that can clear super fast - like musa at 250+ AP

    Even at all pets at t4 - you will still clear faster than pets can loot, pets at t1 are garbage - they run slower and loot slower by 1 second

    Here's the actual info from a guy who did an extensive study on pets in BDO:

    "Hi, I'm the guy who made the spreadsheet smashing a shit ton of pets. To answer your question you need to consider birds vs ground and NA vs KR pets.

    The short answer is : as stated by a guy below. T4 pets loot roughly 33% faster. HOWEVER, they can improve looting amount by up to 2x the amount of loot in some areas."

    The reason for this is, T4 pets in addition to having faster loot time of about 1 second, they have faster movespeed so they are always by your side as well as no animation pickup. This means if you are a fast grinder/ fast moving class that goes to an area that has a long travel time in btw packs you benefit from T4 pets alot more.

    T4 pets also give you an additional pet skill which can give 3% exp/+1 luck/gathering etc. Though you can have them on T3.

    T4 pets if using Fox/Polar bear also give higher unique skill values ie 5% durability reduction with fox or +50 LT with polar bear.

    Agile mode decreases the cooldown in which your pet can loot another another item at the cost of depleting the hunger bar faster.

    T1 pets are absolutely garbage in comparison and you should just probably lifeskill instead. T3 pet is suitable for most players, but T4 pets are the best.

    The profit difference depends on the area in which you grind in the end and your GS. But the tests, which I will put out when done (need a larger sample size), of grinding fogans with T1 vs T4 killing the exact same number of mobs (250,000, found out with marni stones), is the difference between 5mill and 18mill avg so far. With T3 pets on agile vs T4 the difference is 12mill vs 18mill.

    In terms of trash drops only (no scrolls/seraphs) it's T1 = 2135.6 T3 = 4832.7 T4= 7652.9 in the data I have collected so far.

    edit: note final data is not even close to done, this is only over the course of 3 runs on each tier pet. (though I'm getting demotivated each time I do it due to the HUGE profit loss from T1 pets)



    Bottom line - t1 pets are garbage as you are losing a ton of loot because they just wont be able to keep up with you


    Remember that BDO rewards players that spend money - so spending about $300 to get decent t4 pets (more if you are unlucky) will put you head and shoulders above those running around with t1 pets

    Well, with a level 62 witch with only T1 pets, though all at level 10, i can assure you they are more than capable of keeping up with the loot drops, the only reason to get higher tier pets is because they give slightly more bonuses either to processing xp or gathering xp etc. when it comes to picking up loot, there is no real benefit to be gained. Of course i am only speaking as someone who actually plays the game rather than someone who studies statistics. :p
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 34,580
    I suspect if one is a min / maxer the need for Tier 4 pets becomes more obvious.


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  • RemaliRemali Member UncommonPosts: 325
    DMKano said:
    Phry said:
    DMKano said:
    Reality- you want all your pets to be tier 4


    So while nice - 3 pets won't get you to t4
    What is so good about Tier 4 pets that you need even one of them, just having 3 tier 1 pets at level 10, which doesn't take that long is more than enough to handle loot drops. Fairy's give better abilities after all, the one i have gives autopotions +15 secs underwater and a light if i need it along with the usual luck bonus. :/

    This is not correct at high kill speed PvE for classes that can clear super fast - like musa at 250+ AP

    Even at all pets at t4 - you will still clear faster than pets can loot, pets at t1 are garbage - they run slower and loot slower by 1 second

    Here's the actual info from a guy who did an extensive study on pets in BDO:

    "Hi, I'm the guy who made the spreadsheet smashing a shit ton of pets. To answer your question you need to consider birds vs ground and NA vs KR pets.

    The short answer is : as stated by a guy below. T4 pets loot roughly 33% faster. HOWEVER, they can improve looting amount by up to 2x the amount of loot in some areas."

    The reason for this is, T4 pets in addition to having faster loot time of about 1 second, they have faster movespeed so they are always by your side as well as no animation pickup. This means if you are a fast grinder/ fast moving class that goes to an area that has a long travel time in btw packs you benefit from T4 pets alot more.

    T4 pets also give you an additional pet skill which can give 3% exp/+1 luck/gathering etc. Though you can have them on T3.

    T4 pets if using Fox/Polar bear also give higher unique skill values ie 5% durability reduction with fox or +50 LT with polar bear.

    Agile mode decreases the cooldown in which your pet can loot another another item at the cost of depleting the hunger bar faster.

    T1 pets are absolutely garbage in comparison and you should just probably lifeskill instead. T3 pet is suitable for most players, but T4 pets are the best.

    The profit difference depends on the area in which you grind in the end and your GS. But the tests, which I will put out when done (need a larger sample size), of grinding fogans with T1 vs T4 killing the exact same number of mobs (250,000, found out with marni stones), is the difference between 5mill and 18mill avg so far. With T3 pets on agile vs T4 the difference is 12mill vs 18mill.

    In terms of trash drops only (no scrolls/seraphs) it's T1 = 2135.6 T3 = 4832.7 T4= 7652.9 in the data I have collected so far.

    edit: note final data is not even close to done, this is only over the course of 3 runs on each tier pet. (though I'm getting demotivated each time I do it due to the HUGE profit loss from T1 pets)



    Bottom line - t1 pets are garbage as you are losing a ton of loot because they just wont be able to keep up with you


    Remember that BDO rewards players that spend money - so spending about $300 to get decent t4 pets (more if you are unlucky) will put you head and shoulders above those running around with t1 pets




    Are you still at gahaz? high lvl mobs are tanky and don't drop that fast 275ap musa main here ;)


    PhryMikeha
  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Remali said:
    DMKano said:
    Phry said:
    DMKano said:
    Reality- you want all your pets to be tier 4


    So while nice - 3 pets won't get you to t4
    What is so good about Tier 4 pets that you need even one of them, just having 3 tier 1 pets at level 10, which doesn't take that long is more than enough to handle loot drops. Fairy's give better abilities after all, the one i have gives autopotions +15 secs underwater and a light if i need it along with the usual luck bonus. :/

    This is not correct at high kill speed PvE for classes that can clear super fast - like musa at 250+ AP

    Even at all pets at t4 - you will still clear faster than pets can loot, pets at t1 are garbage - they run slower and loot slower by 1 second

    Here's the actual info from a guy who did an extensive study on pets in BDO:

    "Hi, I'm the guy who made the spreadsheet smashing a shit ton of pets. To answer your question you need to consider birds vs ground and NA vs KR pets.

    The short answer is : as stated by a guy below. T4 pets loot roughly 33% faster. HOWEVER, they can improve looting amount by up to 2x the amount of loot in some areas."

    The reason for this is, T4 pets in addition to having faster loot time of about 1 second, they have faster movespeed so they are always by your side as well as no animation pickup. This means if you are a fast grinder/ fast moving class that goes to an area that has a long travel time in btw packs you benefit from T4 pets alot more.

    T4 pets also give you an additional pet skill which can give 3% exp/+1 luck/gathering etc. Though you can have them on T3.

    T4 pets if using Fox/Polar bear also give higher unique skill values ie 5% durability reduction with fox or +50 LT with polar bear.

    Agile mode decreases the cooldown in which your pet can loot another another item at the cost of depleting the hunger bar faster.

    T1 pets are absolutely garbage in comparison and you should just probably lifeskill instead. T3 pet is suitable for most players, but T4 pets are the best.

    The profit difference depends on the area in which you grind in the end and your GS. But the tests, which I will put out when done (need a larger sample size), of grinding fogans with T1 vs T4 killing the exact same number of mobs (250,000, found out with marni stones), is the difference between 5mill and 18mill avg so far. With T3 pets on agile vs T4 the difference is 12mill vs 18mill.

    In terms of trash drops only (no scrolls/seraphs) it's T1 = 2135.6 T3 = 4832.7 T4= 7652.9 in the data I have collected so far.

    edit: note final data is not even close to done, this is only over the course of 3 runs on each tier pet. (though I'm getting demotivated each time I do it due to the HUGE profit loss from T1 pets)



    Bottom line - t1 pets are garbage as you are losing a ton of loot because they just wont be able to keep up with you


    Remember that BDO rewards players that spend money - so spending about $300 to get decent t4 pets (more if you are unlucky) will put you head and shoulders above those running around with t1 pets




    Are you still at gahaz? high lvl mobs are tanky and don't drop that fast 275ap musa main here ;)


    Nice AP! All i can say is that despite only having t1 pets, i have never managed to kill so many things so fast that they couldn't pick everything up, 62 Witch, 58 Wizard, 58 Ranger, 56 in virtually all the others except the Zerker, and thats just using pets at normal speed, not in agility mode!
  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,737
    edited October 2
    Phry said:
    Remali said:
    DMKano said:
    Phry said:
    DMKano said:
    Reality- you want all your pets to be tier 4


    So while nice - 3 pets won't get you to t4
    What is so good about Tier 4 pets that you need even one of them, just having 3 tier 1 pets at level 10, which doesn't take that long is more than enough to handle loot drops. Fairy's give better abilities after all, the one i have gives autopotions +15 secs underwater and a light if i need it along with the usual luck bonus. :/

    This is not correct at high kill speed PvE for classes that can clear super fast - like musa at 250+ AP

    Even at all pets at t4 - you will still clear faster than pets can loot, pets at t1 are garbage - they run slower and loot slower by 1 second

    Here's the actual info from a guy who did an extensive study on pets in BDO:

    "Hi, I'm the guy who made the spreadsheet smashing a shit ton of pets. To answer your question you need to consider birds vs ground and NA vs KR pets.

    The short answer is : as stated by a guy below. T4 pets loot roughly 33% faster. HOWEVER, they can improve looting amount by up to 2x the amount of loot in some areas."

    The reason for this is, T4 pets in addition to having faster loot time of about 1 second, they have faster movespeed so they are always by your side as well as no animation pickup. This means if you are a fast grinder/ fast moving class that goes to an area that has a long travel time in btw packs you benefit from T4 pets alot more.

    T4 pets also give you an additional pet skill which can give 3% exp/+1 luck/gathering etc. Though you can have them on T3.

    T4 pets if using Fox/Polar bear also give higher unique skill values ie 5% durability reduction with fox or +50 LT with polar bear.

    Agile mode decreases the cooldown in which your pet can loot another another item at the cost of depleting the hunger bar faster.

    T1 pets are absolutely garbage in comparison and you should just probably lifeskill instead. T3 pet is suitable for most players, but T4 pets are the best.

    The profit difference depends on the area in which you grind in the end and your GS. But the tests, which I will put out when done (need a larger sample size), of grinding fogans with T1 vs T4 killing the exact same number of mobs (250,000, found out with marni stones), is the difference between 5mill and 18mill avg so far. With T3 pets on agile vs T4 the difference is 12mill vs 18mill.

    In terms of trash drops only (no scrolls/seraphs) it's T1 = 2135.6 T3 = 4832.7 T4= 7652.9 in the data I have collected so far.

    edit: note final data is not even close to done, this is only over the course of 3 runs on each tier pet. (though I'm getting demotivated each time I do it due to the HUGE profit loss from T1 pets)



    Bottom line - t1 pets are garbage as you are losing a ton of loot because they just wont be able to keep up with you


    Remember that BDO rewards players that spend money - so spending about $300 to get decent t4 pets (more if you are unlucky) will put you head and shoulders above those running around with t1 pets




    Are you still at gahaz? high lvl mobs are tanky and don't drop that fast 275ap musa main here ;)


    Nice AP! All i can say is that despite only having t1 pets, i have never managed to kill so many things so fast that they couldn't pick everything up, 62 Witch, 58 Wizard, 58 Ranger, 56 in virtually all the others except the Zerker, and thats just using pets at normal speed, not in agility mode!

    Go farm fogans with a fast clearing class at high ap.

    You will lose loot.

    Again you can ignore test that clearly show how t1 pets cant keep up at high clear speed 

    But whatever .... I mean no matter what i say and what actual data I show you - you still wont hear me out

    So its completely pointless for me to say anything hehe

  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member RarePosts: 4,157
    DMKano said:
    Phry said:
    Remali said:
    DMKano said:
    Phry said:
    DMKano said:
    Reality- you want all your pets to be tier 4


    So while nice - 3 pets won't get you to t4
    What is so good about Tier 4 pets that you need even one of them, just having 3 tier 1 pets at level 10, which doesn't take that long is more than enough to handle loot drops. Fairy's give better abilities after all, the one i have gives autopotions +15 secs underwater and a light if i need it along with the usual luck bonus. :/

    This is not correct at high kill speed PvE for classes that can clear super fast - like musa at 250+ AP

    Even at all pets at t4 - you will still clear faster than pets can loot, pets at t1 are garbage - they run slower and loot slower by 1 second

    Here's the actual info from a guy who did an extensive study on pets in BDO:

    "Hi, I'm the guy who made the spreadsheet smashing a shit ton of pets. To answer your question you need to consider birds vs ground and NA vs KR pets.

    The short answer is : as stated by a guy below. T4 pets loot roughly 33% faster. HOWEVER, they can improve looting amount by up to 2x the amount of loot in some areas."

    The reason for this is, T4 pets in addition to having faster loot time of about 1 second, they have faster movespeed so they are always by your side as well as no animation pickup. This means if you are a fast grinder/ fast moving class that goes to an area that has a long travel time in btw packs you benefit from T4 pets alot more.

    T4 pets also give you an additional pet skill which can give 3% exp/+1 luck/gathering etc. Though you can have them on T3.

    T4 pets if using Fox/Polar bear also give higher unique skill values ie 5% durability reduction with fox or +50 LT with polar bear.

    Agile mode decreases the cooldown in which your pet can loot another another item at the cost of depleting the hunger bar faster.

    T1 pets are absolutely garbage in comparison and you should just probably lifeskill instead. T3 pet is suitable for most players, but T4 pets are the best.

    The profit difference depends on the area in which you grind in the end and your GS. But the tests, which I will put out when done (need a larger sample size), of grinding fogans with T1 vs T4 killing the exact same number of mobs (250,000, found out with marni stones), is the difference between 5mill and 18mill avg so far. With T3 pets on agile vs T4 the difference is 12mill vs 18mill.

    In terms of trash drops only (no scrolls/seraphs) it's T1 = 2135.6 T3 = 4832.7 T4= 7652.9 in the data I have collected so far.

    edit: note final data is not even close to done, this is only over the course of 3 runs on each tier pet. (though I'm getting demotivated each time I do it due to the HUGE profit loss from T1 pets)



    Bottom line - t1 pets are garbage as you are losing a ton of loot because they just wont be able to keep up with you


    Remember that BDO rewards players that spend money - so spending about $300 to get decent t4 pets (more if you are unlucky) will put you head and shoulders above those running around with t1 pets




    Are you still at gahaz? high lvl mobs are tanky and don't drop that fast 275ap musa main here ;)


    Nice AP! All i can say is that despite only having t1 pets, i have never managed to kill so many things so fast that they couldn't pick everything up, 62 Witch, 58 Wizard, 58 Ranger, 56 in virtually all the others except the Zerker, and thats just using pets at normal speed, not in agility mode!

    Go farm fogans with a fast clearing class at high ap.

    You will lose loot.

    Again you can ignore test that clearly show how t1 pets cant keep up at high clear speed 

    But whatever .... I mean no matter what i say and what actual data I show you - you still wont hear me out

    So its completely pointless for me to say anything hehe

    I mean you disregard anyone's playstyle but yours.

    Not everyone plays to min-max everything they can. Some people play to have fun you know?
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  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    DMKano said:
    Phry said:
    Remali said:
    DMKano said:
    Phry said:
    DMKano said:
    Reality- you want all your pets to be tier 4


    So while nice - 3 pets won't get you to t4
    What is so good about Tier 4 pets that you need even one of them, just having 3 tier 1 pets at level 10, which doesn't take that long is more than enough to handle loot drops. Fairy's give better abilities after all, the one i have gives autopotions +15 secs underwater and a light if i need it along with the usual luck bonus. :/

    This is not correct at high kill speed PvE for classes that can clear super fast - like musa at 250+ AP

    Even at all pets at t4 - you will still clear faster than pets can loot, pets at t1 are garbage - they run slower and loot slower by 1 second

    Here's the actual info from a guy who did an extensive study on pets in BDO:

    "Hi, I'm the guy who made the spreadsheet smashing a shit ton of pets. To answer your question you need to consider birds vs ground and NA vs KR pets.

    The short answer is : as stated by a guy below. T4 pets loot roughly 33% faster. HOWEVER, they can improve looting amount by up to 2x the amount of loot in some areas."

    The reason for this is, T4 pets in addition to having faster loot time of about 1 second, they have faster movespeed so they are always by your side as well as no animation pickup. This means if you are a fast grinder/ fast moving class that goes to an area that has a long travel time in btw packs you benefit from T4 pets alot more.

    T4 pets also give you an additional pet skill which can give 3% exp/+1 luck/gathering etc. Though you can have them on T3.

    T4 pets if using Fox/Polar bear also give higher unique skill values ie 5% durability reduction with fox or +50 LT with polar bear.

    Agile mode decreases the cooldown in which your pet can loot another another item at the cost of depleting the hunger bar faster.

    T1 pets are absolutely garbage in comparison and you should just probably lifeskill instead. T3 pet is suitable for most players, but T4 pets are the best.

    The profit difference depends on the area in which you grind in the end and your GS. But the tests, which I will put out when done (need a larger sample size), of grinding fogans with T1 vs T4 killing the exact same number of mobs (250,000, found out with marni stones), is the difference between 5mill and 18mill avg so far. With T3 pets on agile vs T4 the difference is 12mill vs 18mill.

    In terms of trash drops only (no scrolls/seraphs) it's T1 = 2135.6 T3 = 4832.7 T4= 7652.9 in the data I have collected so far.

    edit: note final data is not even close to done, this is only over the course of 3 runs on each tier pet. (though I'm getting demotivated each time I do it due to the HUGE profit loss from T1 pets)



    Bottom line - t1 pets are garbage as you are losing a ton of loot because they just wont be able to keep up with you


    Remember that BDO rewards players that spend money - so spending about $300 to get decent t4 pets (more if you are unlucky) will put you head and shoulders above those running around with t1 pets




    Are you still at gahaz? high lvl mobs are tanky and don't drop that fast 275ap musa main here ;)


    Nice AP! All i can say is that despite only having t1 pets, i have never managed to kill so many things so fast that they couldn't pick everything up, 62 Witch, 58 Wizard, 58 Ranger, 56 in virtually all the others except the Zerker, and thats just using pets at normal speed, not in agility mode!

    Go farm fogans with a fast clearing class at high ap.

    You will lose loot.

    Again you can ignore test that clearly show how t1 pets cant keep up at high clear speed 

    But whatever .... I mean no matter what i say and what actual data I show you - you still wont hear me out

    So its completely pointless for me to say anything hehe

    If you mean desert fogans, then been there done that, didn't lose any loot, usually go there with 5 crystals, not a lot of xp but i have maxed out on weight carried and usually have at least 70 inventory slots free for loot, clearing mobs is as fast as i can manage, but AP is only 240 even so kill speed is pretty fast and the circuit is an easy one, only at 62.4 so a long way to go to 63 and as you know its a very slow process. Picking up loot however is not a problem. ;)
  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,737
    edited October 2
    Bloodaxes said:
    DMKano said:
    Phry said:
    Remali said:
    DMKano said:
    Phry said:
    DMKano said:
    Reality- you want all your pets to be tier 4


    So while nice - 3 pets won't get you to t4
    What is so good about Tier 4 pets that you need even one of them, just having 3 tier 1 pets at level 10, which doesn't take that long is more than enough to handle loot drops. Fairy's give better abilities after all, the one i have gives autopotions +15 secs underwater and a light if i need it along with the usual luck bonus. :/

    This is not correct at high kill speed PvE for classes that can clear super fast - like musa at 250+ AP

    Even at all pets at t4 - you will still clear faster than pets can loot, pets at t1 are garbage - they run slower and loot slower by 1 second

    Here's the actual info from a guy who did an extensive study on pets in BDO:

    "Hi, I'm the guy who made the spreadsheet smashing a shit ton of pets. To answer your question you need to consider birds vs ground and NA vs KR pets.

    The short answer is : as stated by a guy below. T4 pets loot roughly 33% faster. HOWEVER, they can improve looting amount by up to 2x the amount of loot in some areas."

    The reason for this is, T4 pets in addition to having faster loot time of about 1 second, they have faster movespeed so they are always by your side as well as no animation pickup. This means if you are a fast grinder/ fast moving class that goes to an area that has a long travel time in btw packs you benefit from T4 pets alot more.

    T4 pets also give you an additional pet skill which can give 3% exp/+1 luck/gathering etc. Though you can have them on T3.

    T4 pets if using Fox/Polar bear also give higher unique skill values ie 5% durability reduction with fox or +50 LT with polar bear.

    Agile mode decreases the cooldown in which your pet can loot another another item at the cost of depleting the hunger bar faster.

    T1 pets are absolutely garbage in comparison and you should just probably lifeskill instead. T3 pet is suitable for most players, but T4 pets are the best.

    The profit difference depends on the area in which you grind in the end and your GS. But the tests, which I will put out when done (need a larger sample size), of grinding fogans with T1 vs T4 killing the exact same number of mobs (250,000, found out with marni stones), is the difference between 5mill and 18mill avg so far. With T3 pets on agile vs T4 the difference is 12mill vs 18mill.

    In terms of trash drops only (no scrolls/seraphs) it's T1 = 2135.6 T3 = 4832.7 T4= 7652.9 in the data I have collected so far.

    edit: note final data is not even close to done, this is only over the course of 3 runs on each tier pet. (though I'm getting demotivated each time I do it due to the HUGE profit loss from T1 pets)



    Bottom line - t1 pets are garbage as you are losing a ton of loot because they just wont be able to keep up with you


    Remember that BDO rewards players that spend money - so spending about $300 to get decent t4 pets (more if you are unlucky) will put you head and shoulders above those running around with t1 pets




    Are you still at gahaz? high lvl mobs are tanky and don't drop that fast 275ap musa main here ;)


    Nice AP! All i can say is that despite only having t1 pets, i have never managed to kill so many things so fast that they couldn't pick everything up, 62 Witch, 58 Wizard, 58 Ranger, 56 in virtually all the others except the Zerker, and thats just using pets at normal speed, not in agility mode!

    Go farm fogans with a fast clearing class at high ap.

    You will lose loot.

    Again you can ignore test that clearly show how t1 pets cant keep up at high clear speed 

    But whatever .... I mean no matter what i say and what actual data I show you - you still wont hear me out

    So its completely pointless for me to say anything hehe

    I mean you disregard anyone's playstyle but yours.

    Not everyone plays to min-max everything they can. Some people play to have fun you know?

    No disregard for other play styles was intended on my part. 

    If you dont kill fast obviously any pets will work.

    I am simply saying that at high clear speed with a good farming class t1 pets wont cut it

    This has been proven by other players and extensive testing.

    Just want to dispel the myth that t4 pet loot speed is not important in terms of trash/hour at high clear speed 

    One good example is maehva at gahaz - considered top class for that spot at around 220ap, but needs t4 pets for max loot/hour


  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member RarePosts: 4,157
    DMKano said:
    Bloodaxes said:
    DMKano said:
    Phry said:
    Remali said:
    DMKano said:
    Phry said:
    DMKano said:
    Reality- you want all your pets to be tier 4


    So while nice - 3 pets won't get you to t4
    What is so good about Tier 4 pets that you need even one of them, just having 3 tier 1 pets at level 10, which doesn't take that long is more than enough to handle loot drops. Fairy's give better abilities after all, the one i have gives autopotions +15 secs underwater and a light if i need it along with the usual luck bonus. :/

    This is not correct at high kill speed PvE for classes that can clear super fast - like musa at 250+ AP

    Even at all pets at t4 - you will still clear faster than pets can loot, pets at t1 are garbage - they run slower and loot slower by 1 second

    Here's the actual info from a guy who did an extensive study on pets in BDO:

    "Hi, I'm the guy who made the spreadsheet smashing a shit ton of pets. To answer your question you need to consider birds vs ground and NA vs KR pets.

    The short answer is : as stated by a guy below. T4 pets loot roughly 33% faster. HOWEVER, they can improve looting amount by up to 2x the amount of loot in some areas."

    The reason for this is, T4 pets in addition to having faster loot time of about 1 second, they have faster movespeed so they are always by your side as well as no animation pickup. This means if you are a fast grinder/ fast moving class that goes to an area that has a long travel time in btw packs you benefit from T4 pets alot more.

    T4 pets also give you an additional pet skill which can give 3% exp/+1 luck/gathering etc. Though you can have them on T3.

    T4 pets if using Fox/Polar bear also give higher unique skill values ie 5% durability reduction with fox or +50 LT with polar bear.

    Agile mode decreases the cooldown in which your pet can loot another another item at the cost of depleting the hunger bar faster.

    T1 pets are absolutely garbage in comparison and you should just probably lifeskill instead. T3 pet is suitable for most players, but T4 pets are the best.

    The profit difference depends on the area in which you grind in the end and your GS. But the tests, which I will put out when done (need a larger sample size), of grinding fogans with T1 vs T4 killing the exact same number of mobs (250,000, found out with marni stones), is the difference between 5mill and 18mill avg so far. With T3 pets on agile vs T4 the difference is 12mill vs 18mill.

    In terms of trash drops only (no scrolls/seraphs) it's T1 = 2135.6 T3 = 4832.7 T4= 7652.9 in the data I have collected so far.

    edit: note final data is not even close to done, this is only over the course of 3 runs on each tier pet. (though I'm getting demotivated each time I do it due to the HUGE profit loss from T1 pets)



    Bottom line - t1 pets are garbage as you are losing a ton of loot because they just wont be able to keep up with you


    Remember that BDO rewards players that spend money - so spending about $300 to get decent t4 pets (more if you are unlucky) will put you head and shoulders above those running around with t1 pets




    Are you still at gahaz? high lvl mobs are tanky and don't drop that fast 275ap musa main here ;)


    Nice AP! All i can say is that despite only having t1 pets, i have never managed to kill so many things so fast that they couldn't pick everything up, 62 Witch, 58 Wizard, 58 Ranger, 56 in virtually all the others except the Zerker, and thats just using pets at normal speed, not in agility mode!

    Go farm fogans with a fast clearing class at high ap.

    You will lose loot.

    Again you can ignore test that clearly show how t1 pets cant keep up at high clear speed 

    But whatever .... I mean no matter what i say and what actual data I show you - you still wont hear me out

    So its completely pointless for me to say anything hehe

    I mean you disregard anyone's playstyle but yours.

    Not everyone plays to min-max everything they can. Some people play to have fun you know?

    No disregard for other play styles was intended on my part. 

    If you dont kill fast obviously any pets will work.

    I am simply saying that at high clear speed with a good farming class t1 pets wont cut it

    This has been proven by other players and extensive testing.
    Well, the way you word your posts sometimes it looks that way. Like your word means more than others. 

  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,737
    edited October 2
    Bloodaxes said:
    DMKano said:
    Bloodaxes said:
    DMKano said:
    Phry said:
    Remali said:
    DMKano said:
    Phry said:
    DMKano said:
    Reality- you want all your pets to be tier 4


    So while nice - 3 pets won't get you to t4
    What is so good about Tier 4 pets that you need even one of them, just having 3 tier 1 pets at level 10, which doesn't take that long is more than enough to handle loot drops. Fairy's give better abilities after all, the one i have gives autopotions +15 secs underwater and a light if i need it along with the usual luck bonus. :/

    This is not correct at high kill speed PvE for classes that can clear super fast - like musa at 250+ AP

    Even at all pets at t4 - you will still clear faster than pets can loot, pets at t1 are garbage - they run slower and loot slower by 1 second

    Here's the actual info from a guy who did an extensive study on pets in BDO:

    "Hi, I'm the guy who made the spreadsheet smashing a shit ton of pets. To answer your question you need to consider birds vs ground and NA vs KR pets.

    The short answer is : as stated by a guy below. T4 pets loot roughly 33% faster. HOWEVER, they can improve looting amount by up to 2x the amount of loot in some areas."

    The reason for this is, T4 pets in addition to having faster loot time of about 1 second, they have faster movespeed so they are always by your side as well as no animation pickup. This means if you are a fast grinder/ fast moving class that goes to an area that has a long travel time in btw packs you benefit from T4 pets alot more.

    T4 pets also give you an additional pet skill which can give 3% exp/+1 luck/gathering etc. Though you can have them on T3.

    T4 pets if using Fox/Polar bear also give higher unique skill values ie 5% durability reduction with fox or +50 LT with polar bear.

    Agile mode decreases the cooldown in which your pet can loot another another item at the cost of depleting the hunger bar faster.

    T1 pets are absolutely garbage in comparison and you should just probably lifeskill instead. T3 pet is suitable for most players, but T4 pets are the best.

    The profit difference depends on the area in which you grind in the end and your GS. But the tests, which I will put out when done (need a larger sample size), of grinding fogans with T1 vs T4 killing the exact same number of mobs (250,000, found out with marni stones), is the difference between 5mill and 18mill avg so far. With T3 pets on agile vs T4 the difference is 12mill vs 18mill.

    In terms of trash drops only (no scrolls/seraphs) it's T1 = 2135.6 T3 = 4832.7 T4= 7652.9 in the data I have collected so far.

    edit: note final data is not even close to done, this is only over the course of 3 runs on each tier pet. (though I'm getting demotivated each time I do it due to the HUGE profit loss from T1 pets)



    Bottom line - t1 pets are garbage as you are losing a ton of loot because they just wont be able to keep up with you


    Remember that BDO rewards players that spend money - so spending about $300 to get decent t4 pets (more if you are unlucky) will put you head and shoulders above those running around with t1 pets




    Are you still at gahaz? high lvl mobs are tanky and don't drop that fast 275ap musa main here ;)


    Nice AP! All i can say is that despite only having t1 pets, i have never managed to kill so many things so fast that they couldn't pick everything up, 62 Witch, 58 Wizard, 58 Ranger, 56 in virtually all the others except the Zerker, and thats just using pets at normal speed, not in agility mode!

    Go farm fogans with a fast clearing class at high ap.

    You will lose loot.

    Again you can ignore test that clearly show how t1 pets cant keep up at high clear speed 

    But whatever .... I mean no matter what i say and what actual data I show you - you still wont hear me out

    So its completely pointless for me to say anything hehe

    I mean you disregard anyone's playstyle but yours.

    Not everyone plays to min-max everything they can. Some people play to have fun you know?

    No disregard for other play styles was intended on my part. 

    If you dont kill fast obviously any pets will work.

    I am simply saying that at high clear speed with a good farming class t1 pets wont cut it

    This has been proven by other players and extensive testing.
    Well, the way you word your posts sometimes it looks that way. Like your word means more than others. 

    By all means never take my word to mean anything than anyone elses.

    Because it doesnt. 

    I hope everyone is mature enough to know this.

    My default playstyle is min/max - so I post from that perspective. 

    For me it's always about max gains per time invested be it xp/loot whatever

    Obviously not everyone plays like this, and that's fine. 

  • RemaliRemali Member UncommonPosts: 325
    @DMKano ; why would someone with my ap which is average at this state of the game(ppl are pushing close to 300) farm at fogans? The bdo map is pretty big and there is s spot for every ap bracket.Have you tried farming at the new zones at all? stars end underwater etc or did you last play bdo when pirates were a hot spot and have a false view of the game as it is now
  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 8,972
    This is good and will help out new players. 
    alkarionlogNyctelios
  • yonpachiyonpachi Member UncommonPosts: 132
    Remali said:
    @DMKano ; why would someone with my ap which is average at this state of the game(ppl are pushing close to 300) farm at fogans? The bdo map is pretty big and there is s spot for every ap bracket.Have you tried farming at the new zones at all? stars end underwater etc or did you last play bdo when pirates were a hot spot and have a false view of the game as it is now
    I want to know as well why people with 300AP want to farms at fogans
  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member EpicPosts: 2,938
    yonpachi said:
    Remali said:
    @DMKano ; why would someone with my ap which is average at this state of the game(ppl are pushing close to 300) farm at fogans? The bdo map is pretty big and there is s spot for every ap bracket.Have you tried farming at the new zones at all? stars end underwater etc or did you last play bdo when pirates were a hot spot and have a false view of the game as it is now
    I want to know as well why people with 300AP want to farms at fogans
    didn't bother to play bdo, but as rule for farming

    there is a reason, if you want loot for gold, you want to do the kill per mim and gold per mob, normally, mobs who can be killed in mass fast, with a lot of then close give better return, remember is all RGN, so the more you force these numbers to happen better the outcome, sometimes killing a higher grade mob even if they CAN drop better quality loot, is offset but teh low killing, if you are sniping for a expecific drop then that don't matter much, you will be killing the add who drop said item, but if you want a drop who is know fro droping from several mobs, you go for the weaker, to faster killing, extra loot, and better chance to get your drop
    FOR HONOR, FOR FREEDOM.... and for some money.
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