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ArcheAge Teleport Exploit Remains Unpatched

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  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Xatsh said:
    Exploits and hackers exist in any game.

    WoW (Classic and current), ESO, BDO, FFXIV, FFXI, Archeage, SWToR, GW2. They all have the exact same hacks in this article. Each police them differently. Most have a hack detection of some kind. FFXIV and AA are the big ones without it that I know of.

    I have a screen shot of around 40 characters all of the same model in a line on FFXIV running in an out of bounds area following each other as well from earlier in the week.

    This article makes it sound like Archeage is overrun with hackers and cheaters. It is not really never was, each server had a handfull of them and rmt did it all time. But it is a mmo there is a 100% chance of people cheating. And any game with an economy will have RMT doing it to make money to sell. I will gladly give anyone my months paycheck if they can name a major mmo that does not have people using 3rd party tools to cheat the system.

    I will agree that AA deserves critisism for gross missmangement by trion and xlgames. But this could of been wrote about any game. And the way the article is written this is basically a hit peice. Sorta funny it was released about an hour after the live stream that addressed this very topic.
    Unfortunately i have seen the hackers in FFXIV myself, groups of bards/black mages all identical with random letter generated names, magically appear out of nowhere kill something and then disappear again. :/
  • VrikaVrika Member EpicPosts: 5,851
    It doesn't work in Unchained version because of new hack shield. The people gonna use it or download are going to get banned right away.
    More likely they manage to do one ban wave of users who are hacking before the hack gets changed.

    They could fix teleport hacks completely with a server side detection of illegal movement, but as long as they don't have any detection they're just striking against individual hacks and leaving hackers with ability to make new ones.
    PhryKyleran
     
  • hyllyhhyllyh Member UncommonPosts: 247
    edited September 28
    i laught loudly when i saw this and ppl thinking AAU will be better...
    hack, bots etc will be the same thing and i'm waiting for a flow of tears cause of this
  • HerithiusHerithius Member UncommonPosts: 186
    So... Archeage has a hack in it? Is that supposed to be huge news? Every mmorpg out there has hacks, exploits, etc. People are piling on Archeage like its never been in an mmo before, unreal.

    Did hacks in UO, EQ or SWG qualify those games as disasters? Hacks happen. They are unfortunate and hopefully they will be limited to the best of the devs ability. You can post this article about any mmorpg on the market highlighting a hack. Hacks are especially prevalent in competitive sandbox experiences. Its part of the territory.

    Show me a mmorpg with no hacks.
    Kyleran
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 6,625
    edited September 28
    Phry said:
    Xatsh said:
    Exploits and hackers exist in any game.

    WoW (Classic and current), ESO, BDO, FFXIV, FFXI, Archeage, SWToR, GW2. They all have the exact same hacks in this article. Each police them differently. Most have a hack detection of some kind. FFXIV and AA are the big ones without it that I know of.

    I have a screen shot of around 40 characters all of the same model in a line on FFXIV running in an out of bounds area following each other as well from earlier in the week.

    This article makes it sound like Archeage is overrun with hackers and cheaters. It is not really never was, each server had a handfull of them and rmt did it all time. But it is a mmo there is a 100% chance of people cheating. And any game with an economy will have RMT doing it to make money to sell. I will gladly give anyone my months paycheck if they can name a major mmo that does not have people using 3rd party tools to cheat the system.

    I will agree that AA deserves critisism for gross missmangement by trion and xlgames. But this could of been wrote about any game. And the way the article is written this is basically a hit peice. Sorta funny it was released about an hour after the live stream that addressed this very topic.
    Unfortunately i have seen the hackers in FFXIV myself, groups of bards/black mages all identical with random letter generated names, magically appear out of nowhere kill something and then disappear again. :/




     
    Pretty much. Hacks/botting in FFXIV's ARR zones make it look like child's play in other games by comparison. Most servers you can create toons on (since some have creation lockouts) usually have Gridania/Ul'dah flooded with them, teleporting/'flying' (ARR zones dont have flight, so you get the idea)/as well as hoards of them under floors in several areas. Anyone can make a trial account to see all this for themselves. What is funnier is that GMs aren't allowed to do anything about them as mandated by SE, only their 'special task force' can which you have to go through an arbitrary process to report them on their main site. AAA quality at its finest....at least they can keep the cash shop updated on a monthly basis...



  • yonpachiyonpachi Member UncommonPosts: 132
    This or Astellia Online?
  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,562
    yonpachi said:
    This or Astellia Online?

    Clearly neither.
    Kyleran
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 34,372
    DMKano said:
    yonpachi said:
    This or Astellia Online?

    Clearly neither.
    Question like that is much like asking if one should crush either their left or right hand with a hammer.

    Clearly neither.

     ;) 


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  • AngryElfAngryElf Member UncommonPosts: 135
    Ha
    Haha
    Hahaha
    Hahaha haha

    Judging by some of the past comments from the posters here, even the fanbois are pissed. Glad I stayed on my side of the fence through all this "revival" bullshit.
  • DeyirnDeyirn Member UncommonPosts: 462

    DMKano said:


    Xatsh said:

    They addressed this in today live stream. They are adding anti cheat detection to the game for the upcoming launch of 6.0 to attempt to prevent this kind of stuff.



    I will say this. It is not really an exploit of game though people are using 3rd party tools to hack the game client more or less and the server lacks the ability to detect the cheats. Still bad but not raelly an exploit with the game itself more or less less people modifying the memory and packets to do things normally not allowed.



    Archeage problem is you can send stuff saying your character is here and the server will accept it. You can even enable swimming everywhere. So you can more or less fly. AA cheats always included flying, Position hacking, moving really fast, walking through walls.



    FFXIV has the same stuff that game you can change values to walkthrough walls, move at warp speed, fly and so on. RMT do it all the time to mine from underground.



    You can do the exact same things in WoW technically, but the anti-cheat auto bans you.



    Problem is you can get around the Auto Cheat Systems as well. If the coder knows what they are doing and they have a dummy account or two they can get banned while testing it. With Archeage's last version though there were 3 anti-virus softwares that when they scanned files while playing archeage the game would auto ban you for illegal 3rd party software. So Anti-cheats can be a problem as well.



    As crappy as Trion was and as much as they totally screwed the pooch together with XL to ruin ArcheAge - they had way more resources and manpower to ban 3rd party speed/teleport hackers, sure it wasn't anywhere near 100% but ... dont expect Gamgio to come even close.

    Gamgio doesnt have the tools, nor the manpower to deal with this in any meaningful way - so the same exploits will be orders of magnitude worse in Unchained


    Buyer beware 




    Gamigo now publish Ironsight - a F2P Korean FPS game that has been a laughingstock since the CBT back in 2017. So far they managed to lose 95% of their playerbase and still pretend like everything is going fine and dandy as 5-10 white knights from the beginning still defend the game for them.

  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,399
    DMKano said:
    Xatsh said:
    They addressed this in today live stream. They are adding anti cheat detection to the game for the upcoming launch of 6.0 to attempt to prevent this kind of stuff.

    I will say this. It is not really an exploit of game though people are using 3rd party tools to hack the game client more or less and the server lacks the ability to detect the cheats. Still bad but not raelly an exploit with the game itself more or less less people modifying the memory and packets to do things normally not allowed.

    Archeage problem is you can send stuff saying your character is here and the server will accept it. You can even enable swimming everywhere. So you can more or less fly. AA cheats always included flying, Position hacking, moving really fast, walking through walls.

    FFXIV has the same stuff that game you can change values to walkthrough walls, move at warp speed, fly and so on. RMT do it all the time to mine from underground.

    You can do the exact same things in WoW technically, but the anti-cheat auto bans you.

    Problem is you can get around the Auto Cheat Systems as well. If the coder knows what they are doing and they have a dummy account or two they can get banned while testing it. With Archeage's last version though there were 3 anti-virus softwares that when they scanned files while playing archeage the game would auto ban you for illegal 3rd party software. So Anti-cheats can be a problem as well.

    As crappy as Trion was and as much as they totally screwed the pooch together with XL to ruin ArcheAge - they had way more resources and manpower to ban 3rd party speed/teleport hackers, sure it wasn't anywhere near 100% but ... dont expect Gamgio to come even close.

    Gamgio doesnt have the tools, nor the manpower to deal with this in any meaningful way - so the same exploits will be orders of magnitude worse in Unchained


    Buyer beware 

    Which begs the question: should Trion have spent LESS.

    (Not suggesting that in and of itself just cutting back this aspect would have stopped them going under but as part of an approach.)
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