Archeage Unchained founder packs released

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• sgel Member EpicPosts: 2,197

  August 2019

  Looks fine to me. I'll be going for Silver and see how it pans out.
  If they stick away from P2W it'll be a brilliant MMO.

  

  ..Cake..
• Albatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671

  August 2019 edited August 2019

  I will say that if this was being done by Trion, that last founder pack price would be 149.99$. I am going to guess that those expansion scrolls will be cash shop exclusive, because extra space isn't "P2W" according to some companies, its just "convenience."
  
• sgel Member EpicPosts: 2,197

  August 2019

  Albatroes said:

  I will say that if this was being done by Trion, that last founder pack price would be 149.99$. I am going to guess that those expansion scrolls will be cash shop exclusive, because extra space isn't "P2W" according to some companies, its just "convenience."
  

  "Expansion scrolls can be obtained via free methods, as free pass completion but not through credits" - carendash
  

  ..Cake..
• Azaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829

  August 2019

  sgel said:

  Looks fine to me. I'll be going for Silver and see how it pans out.
  If they stick away from P2W it'll be a brilliant MMO.

  BIG IF. Considering the parent company is still a Korean one.
  Who always go "Our Western version will be different. No P2W. Trust us "
  
  Then the moment revenue drops slightly, they pull the old bait and switch and double down on P2W anyway.
  
  I suspect the game will be great the first few months, and after that they'll turn to shady practices like every other KR MMO out there.

  My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)

  https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/
  
• MMOExposed Member RarePosts: 7,387

  August 2019

  Question: Is Archeage Faction PvP or FFA?
  Whats PvE like? Is PvE in the open world friendly or hostile?

  Philosophy of MMO Game Design
• Scorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914

  August 2019

    Ill take 3 Archeum packs
  

  
• lahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,041

  August 2019

  I love the “Game Access at Release” perk. Amazing privilige   
  
  /Cheers,
  Lahnmir

  

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  Kyleran on yours sincerely 
  
  
  'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
  
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  'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless. 
  
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• gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919

  August 2019

  Azaron_Nightblade said:

  sgel said:

  Looks fine to me. I'll be going for Silver and see how it pans out.
  If they stick away from P2W it'll be a brilliant MMO.

  BIG IF. Considering the parent company is still a Korean one.
  Who always go "Our Western version will be different. No P2W. Trust us "
  
  Then the moment revenue drops slightly, they pull the old bait and switch and double down on P2W anyway.
  
  I suspect the game will be great the first few months, and after that they'll turn to shady practices like every other KR MMO out there.

  If its simply a case of Gamigo pay XL $X then if revenue drops the hit is taken by Gamigo; conversely if it takes off Gamigo get all the benefits.
  
  Without knowing the contractual terms between Gamigo and XL we just don't know. There are a vast array of revenue sharing type deals that they could have agreed to. An upfront payment is certainly the simplest but .... shrug.  
  
    

  
• Scorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914

  August 2019

  DMKano said:

  sgel said:

  Looks fine to me. I'll be going for Silver and see how it pans out.
  If they stick away from P2W it'll be a brilliant MMO.

  
  They wont
   This is Gamigo and XL.
  
  100% chance they will screw you over for $$$
  
  Only matter of when 
  
  Still can't believe that some will fall for this shit yet again
  

    
  

  
  

    Thats odd , its interesting that you did not express such concerns as Trion opened fresh start servers for AA 3 times ..
  

  
  

     Very strange indeed ... matter a fact 2 weeks before Gamigos purchase of Archeage , you were promoting AA as  
  

  
  

      " but AA is damn good game on it's own. If you ignore all the XL and Trion related drama and just focus on the game itself - it's very good, IMO its in the top 3 best korean made MMORPGs"

  
  

  
  

    This after 3 Fresh Starts from Trion .... Where was your concern then ...
  

  
  
• Scorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914

  August 2019 edited August 2019

  DMKano said:

  Scorchien said:

  DMKano said:

  sgel said:

  Looks fine to me. I'll be going for Silver and see how it pans out.
  If they stick away from P2W it'll be a brilliant MMO.

  
  They wont
   This is Gamigo and XL.
  
  100% chance they will screw you over for $$$
  
  Only matter of when 
  
  Still can't believe that some will fall for this shit yet again
  

    
  

  
  

    Thats odd , its interesting that you did not express such concerns as Trion opened fresh start servers for AA 3 times ..
  

  
  

     Very strange indeed ... matter a fact 2 weeks before Gamigos purchase of Archeage , you were promoting AA as  
  

  
  

      " but AA is damn good game on it's own. If you ignore all the XL and Trion related drama and just focus on the game itself - it's very good, IMO its in the top 3 best korean made MMORPGs"

  
  

  
  

    This after 3 Fresh Starts from Trion .... Where was your concern then ...
  

  
  

  
  ArcheAge is a damn good game on its own.
  
  I stand by this 100%
  
  Now ArcheAge in Gamigos and XL hands - fuck no
  
  I learned my lesson through all the Trions fuck ups, is it too late for me to finally realized how trash Trion was and how badly they mishandled AA?
  
  Or are you going to hold this shit over my head even after I dont feel like this anymore?
  
  Am I not allowed to see my own past mistakes and change my mind?

  My problem Kano , is we ( many here) were telling you this about Trion for years , and for years you shoved it down our thraots , defending them and promoting them thru all there Shit treatment of there IPs and communties ..

  
  

      You kept defending there moves and promting there IPS .. Now i have no horse in the race ( no money invested in any of these parties) , But i feel it is disingenious of you to take the forgiving road on Trion for 6 years here and not give Gamigo or the AA community as it exists today one chance .. You piss in the cornflakes of every single thread related to any Trion(Gamigo) product.... Its not necessary
  

  
  

     You are bitter
  

  
  

  
  

    BTW Gamigo has been in the business for over 20 years now , and keeping there IPs up and running ..

  
  

    Cant say that for Trion now can we , honestly Trion missed the boat when they flirted with option of going public .. They should have done that instead of laying down with XL ..   They would of gotten better guidance imo , instead of letting Hartsman drive them into the ground
  

  
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• Scorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914

  August 2019 edited August 2019

  DMKano said:

  Scorchien said:

  DMKano said:

  Scorchien said:

  DMKano said:

  sgel said:

  Looks fine to me. I'll be going for Silver and see how it pans out.
  If they stick away from P2W it'll be a brilliant MMO.

  
  They wont
   This is Gamigo and XL.
  
  100% chance they will screw you over for $$$
  
  Only matter of when 
  
  Still can't believe that some will fall for this shit yet again
  

    
  

  
  

    Thats odd , its interesting that you did not express such concerns as Trion opened fresh start servers for AA 3 times ..
  

  
  

     Very strange indeed ... matter a fact 2 weeks before Gamigos purchase of Archeage , you were promoting AA as  
  

  
  

      " but AA is damn good game on it's own. If you ignore all the XL and Trion related drama and just focus on the game itself - it's very good, IMO its in the top 3 best korean made MMORPGs"

  
  

  
  

    This after 3 Fresh Starts from Trion .... Where was your concern then ...
  

  
  

  
  ArcheAge is a damn good game on its own.
  
  I stand by this 100%
  
  Now ArcheAge in Gamigos and XL hands - fuck no
  
  I learned my lesson through all the Trions fuck ups, is it too late for me to finally realized how trash Trion was and how badly they mishandled AA?
  
  Or are you going to hold this shit over my head even after I dont feel like this anymore?
  
  Am I not allowed to see my own past mistakes and change my mind?

  My problem Kano , is we ( many here) were telling you this about Trion for years , and for years you shoved it down our thraots , defending them and promoting them thru all there Shit treatment of there IPs and communties ..

  
  

      You kept defending there moves and promting there IPS .. Now i have no horse in the race ( no money invested in any of these parties) , But i feel it is disingenious of you to take the forgiving road on Trion for 6 years here and not give Gamigo or the AA community as it exists today one chance .. You piss in the cornflakes of every single thread realted to any Trion(Gamigo) product..

  
  

     You are bitter
  

  
  Give Gamigo a chance?
  
  Only fools give thieves another chance.
  
  Trion was bad.
  
  Gamigo is 10 x worse - they literally give zero shits about any game and are totally just going after players money pure and simple, they also lack competent staff that at this point.
  
  Trion at one point gave a shit - back during Rift launch days - it all went to shit after that.
  
  But hey everyone can do whatever they want with their money - including giving it to complete shite company like Gamigo lol
  
  
  
  

  
  
• alkarionlog Member EpicPosts: 3,584

  August 2019

  Scorchien said:

  DMKano said:

  Scorchien said:

  DMKano said:

  sgel said:

  Looks fine to me. I'll be going for Silver and see how it pans out.
  If they stick away from P2W it'll be a brilliant MMO.

  
  They wont
   This is Gamigo and XL.
  
  100% chance they will screw you over for $$$
  
  Only matter of when 
  
  Still can't believe that some will fall for this shit yet again
  

    
  

  
  

    Thats odd , its interesting that you did not express such concerns as Trion opened fresh start servers for AA 3 times ..
  

  
  

     Very strange indeed ... matter a fact 2 weeks before Gamigos purchase of Archeage , you were promoting AA as  
  

  
  

      " but AA is damn good game on it's own. If you ignore all the XL and Trion related drama and just focus on the game itself - it's very good, IMO its in the top 3 best korean made MMORPGs"

  
  

  
  

    This after 3 Fresh Starts from Trion .... Where was your concern then ...
  

  
  

  
  ArcheAge is a damn good game on its own.
  
  I stand by this 100%
  
  Now ArcheAge in Gamigos and XL hands - fuck no
  
  I learned my lesson through all the Trions fuck ups, is it too late for me to finally realized how trash Trion was and how badly they mishandled AA?
  
  Or are you going to hold this shit over my head even after I dont feel like this anymore?
  
  Am I not allowed to see my own past mistakes and change my mind?

  My problem Kano , is we ( many here) were telling you this about Trion for years , and for years you shoved it down our thraots , defending them and promoting them thru all there Shit treatment of there IPs and communties ..

  
  

      You kept defending there moves and promting there IPS .. Now i have no horse in the race ( no money invested in any of these parties) , But i feel it is disingenious of you to take the forgiving road on Trion for 6 years here and not give Gamigo or the AA community as it exists today one chance .. You piss in the cornflakes of every single thread related to any Trion(Gamigo) product.... Its not necessary
  

  
  

     You are bitter
  

  
  

  
  

    BTW Gamigo has been in the business for over 20 years now , and keeping there IPs up and running ..

  
  

    Cant say that for Trion now can we , honestly Trion missed the boat when they flirted with option of going public .. They should have done that instead of laying down with XL ..   They would of gotten better guidance imo , instead of letting Hartsman drive them into the ground
  

  
  

  you mean the whales who still play the game? or all the people who supported, included kano, when the game was a sh!t fest of bad idea after bad idea to milk the people like crazy?

  
  

  kids lets get real here, anyone taking this packs in anyway is a fool, you know it I know it, everyone know it, there is no way to gamigo do better then trion, trion had before a good rep, gamigo don't even have that much. is kan a fool to defend trion for yearsw? yes, as anyone defending gamigo and AA today, there is no reason to defend the game and even less gamigo.

  
  

  and everyone supporting this is the main reason we get crap game with huge p2w mechs, they will keep doing this over and over, again and over again as long it gave then money.

  
  

  you guys complain trion was milking the game hard, and not you guys are seeing the second comming of said milking and you support, the real problem here is not kano or trion anymore
  

  FOR HONOR, FOR FREEDOM.... and for some money.
  
• Scorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914

  August 2019 edited August 2019

  Scorchien said:

  DMKano said:

  Scorchien said:

  DMKano said:

  Scorchien said:

  DMKano said:

  sgel said:

  Looks fine to me. I'll be going for Silver and see how it pans out.
  If they stick away from P2W it'll be a brilliant MMO.

  
  They wont
   This is Gamigo and XL.
  
  100% chance they will screw you over for $$$
  
  Only matter of when 
  
  Still can't believe that some will fall for this shit yet again
  

    
  

  
  

    Thats odd , its interesting that you did not express such concerns as Trion opened fresh start servers for AA 3 times ..
  

  
  

     Very strange indeed ... matter a fact 2 weeks before Gamigos purchase of Archeage , you were promoting AA as  
  

  
  

      " but AA is damn good game on it's own. If you ignore all the XL and Trion related drama and just focus on the game itself - it's very good, IMO its in the top 3 best korean made MMORPGs"

  
  

  
  

    This after 3 Fresh Starts from Trion .... Where was your concern then ...
  

  
  

  
  ArcheAge is a damn good game on its own.
  
  I stand by this 100%
  
  Now ArcheAge in Gamigos and XL hands - fuck no
  
  I learned my lesson through all the Trions fuck ups, is it too late for me to finally realized how trash Trion was and how badly they mishandled AA?
  
  Or are you going to hold this shit over my head even after I dont feel like this anymore?
  
  Am I not allowed to see my own past mistakes and change my mind?

  My problem Kano , is we ( many here) were telling you this about Trion for years , and for years you shoved it down our thraots , defending them and promoting them thru all there Shit treatment of there IPs and communties ..

  
  

      You kept defending there moves and promting there IPS .. Now i have no horse in the race ( no money invested in any of these parties) , But i feel it is disingenious of you to take the forgiving road on Trion for 6 years here and not give Gamigo or the AA community as it exists today one chance .. You piss in the cornflakes of every single thread realted to any Trion(Gamigo) product..

  
  

     You are bitter
  

  
  Give Gamigo a chance?
  
  Only fools give thieves another chance.
  
  Trion was bad.
  
  Gamigo is 10 x worse - they literally give zero shits about any game and are totally just going after players money pure and simple, they also lack competent staff that at this point.
  
  Trion at one point gave a shit - back during Rift launch days - it all went to shit after that.
  
  But hey everyone can do whatever they want with their money - including giving it to complete shite company like Gamigo lol
  
  
  Again we all pointed this out to you for 6 years here with Trion ..
  

  
  

   In the past 6 years Trion was no fucking better than Gamigo is today in there monetary practices , infact i would say Trion may have been worse ..
  

  
  

   But you did not stand up for the communites then as Trion bait and switch ..

  
  

    You kept defending them , there iPS thru it all for 6 years as we told you over and over ..

  
  

   You are just 6 years behind ... not bad ...
  

  
  

    So you kept giving Trion chance after chance thru it all .. Are you calling yourself a fool ..
  

  
  

  
  Again we all pointed this out to you for 6 years here with Trion ..
  

  
  

   In the past 6 years Trion was no fucking better than Gamigo is today in there monetary practices , infact i would say Trion may have been worse ..
  

  
  

   But you did not stand up for the communites then as Trion bait and switch,Fresh start , 2050 etc etc etc ..

  
  

    You kept defending them , there iPS thru it all for 6 years as we told you over and over ..

  
  

   You are just 6 years behind ... not bad ...
  

  
  

    So you kept giving Trion chance after chance thru it all .. Are you calling yourself a fool ..
  
• Theocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 9,751

  August 2019

  Funny that people hate cash shops but have no problem with founder packs.......
  

  
• Scorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914

  August 2019

  DMKano said:

  Scorchien said:

  Scorchien said:

  DMKano said:

  Scorchien said:

  DMKano said:

  Scorchien said:

  DMKano said:

  sgel said:

  Looks fine to me. I'll be going for Silver and see how it pans out.
  If they stick away from P2W it'll be a brilliant MMO.

  
  They wont
   This is Gamigo and XL.
  
  100% chance they will screw you over for $$$
  
  Only matter of when 
  
  Still can't believe that some will fall for this shit yet again
  

    
  

  
  

    Thats odd , its interesting that you did not express such concerns as Trion opened fresh start servers for AA 3 times ..
  

  
  

     Very strange indeed ... matter a fact 2 weeks before Gamigos purchase of Archeage , you were promoting AA as  
  

  
  

      " but AA is damn good game on it's own. If you ignore all the XL and Trion related drama and just focus on the game itself - it's very good, IMO its in the top 3 best korean made MMORPGs"

  
  

  
  

    This after 3 Fresh Starts from Trion .... Where was your concern then ...
  

  
  

  
  ArcheAge is a damn good game on its own.
  
  I stand by this 100%
  
  Now ArcheAge in Gamigos and XL hands - fuck no
  
  I learned my lesson through all the Trions fuck ups, is it too late for me to finally realized how trash Trion was and how badly they mishandled AA?
  
  Or are you going to hold this shit over my head even after I dont feel like this anymore?
  
  Am I not allowed to see my own past mistakes and change my mind?

  My problem Kano , is we ( many here) were telling you this about Trion for years , and for years you shoved it down our thraots , defending them and promoting them thru all there Shit treatment of there IPs and communties ..

  
  

      You kept defending there moves and promting there IPS .. Now i have no horse in the race ( no money invested in any of these parties) , But i feel it is disingenious of you to take the forgiving road on Trion for 6 years here and not give Gamigo or the AA community as it exists today one chance .. You piss in the cornflakes of every single thread realted to any Trion(Gamigo) product..

  
  

     You are bitter
  

  
  Give Gamigo a chance?
  
  Only fools give thieves another chance.
  
  Trion was bad.
  
  Gamigo is 10 x worse - they literally give zero shits about any game and are totally just going after players money pure and simple, they also lack competent staff that at this point.
  
  Trion at one point gave a shit - back during Rift launch days - it all went to shit after that.
  
  But hey everyone can do whatever they want with their money - including giving it to complete shite company like Gamigo lol
  
  
  Again we all pointed this out to you for 6 years here with Trion ..
  

  
  

   In the past 6 years Trion was no fucking better than Gamigo is today in there monetary practices , infact i would say Trion may have been worse ..
  

  
  

   But you did not stand up for the communites then as Trion bait and switch ..

  
  

    You kept defending them , there iPS thru it all for 6 years as we told you over and over ..

  
  

   You are just 6 years behind ... not bad ...
  

  
  

    So you kept giving Trion chance after chance thru it all .. Are you calling yourself a fool ..
  

  
  

  
  Again we all pointed this out to you for 6 years here with Trion ..
  

  
  

   In the past 6 years Trion was no fucking better than Gamigo is today in there monetary practices , infact i would say Trion may have been worse ..
  

  
  

   But you did not stand up for the communites then as Trion bait and switch ..

  
  

    You kept defending them , there iPS thru it all for 6 years as we told you over and over ..

  
  

   You are just 6 years behind ... not bad ...
  

  
  

    So you kept giving Trion chance after chance thru it all .. Are you calling yourself a fool ..
  

  
  I was a fool - I said dumb things, I failed to see what others clearly pointed out. I made mistakes. 
  
  It took 6 years, I cant change that now.
  
  Nobody can.
  
  All I can do is accept responsibility for what I have done, make amends to those I wronged and move on.
  
  That is all

  Fair enuff...
  

  
  

        I concede....

  
  

                But maybe let it play out with Trions IPs thru Gamigo for abit , before damning every single thread relative to ...Give them chance to fuck up .. They have not (yet) that is all we know for sure
  
• Dragnelus Member EpicPosts: 3,503

  August 2019

  If its only a few months fun. I will buy it, I think I will take the risk. Few months fun for me, is my standard nowdays for mmorpgs I dont expect more.

  
  
• alkarionlog Member EpicPosts: 3,584

  August 2019

  Dragnelus said:

  If its only a few months fun. I will buy it, I think I will take the risk. Few months fun for me, is my standard nowdays for mmorpgs I dont expect more.

  for a f2p yes, forcing you to open wallet before even playing AGAIN, not going to work this time on me
  

  FOR HONOR, FOR FREEDOM.... and for some money.
  
• mmolou Member UncommonPosts: 256

  August 2019 edited August 2019

  Played AA during Alpha, bought a founders pack back then based on the game as it was during Alpha.
  What was actually released, and the changes they made, was worse (to me) than the Alpha was.
  Definitely giving it a pass this time.
  
  Besides, having fun in WoW classic just now, do not feel the need to play anything else.

  

  It is a funny world we live in.
  We had Empires run by Emperors, we had Kingdoms run by Kings, now we have Countries...
• Amathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630

  August 2019

  Theocritus said:
  
  

  Funny that people hate cash shops but have no problem with founder packs.......
  

  Agreed. But I have a problem with Founder's Packs that contain P2W items. 

  EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
• Dragnelus Member EpicPosts: 3,503

  August 2019

  alkarionlog said:

  Dragnelus said:

  If its only a few months fun. I will buy it, I think I will take the risk. Few months fun for me, is my standard nowdays for mmorpgs I dont expect more.

  for a f2p yes, forcing you to open wallet before even playing AGAIN, not going to work this time on me
  

  Imo you would pay more for f2p. 25 is not much for a few months.

  
  
• ChildoftheShadows Member EpicPosts: 2,193

  August 2019 edited September 2019

  I already bought a founders pack [mod edit]

  Post edited by Vaross on September 2019

  
• Dragnelus Member EpicPosts: 3,503

  August 2019

  Arterius said:

  So their is a cash shop because it says that you get credits? I thought this was AA without the cash shop and P2W? Eh, guess if I want a MMO I will stick with WoW classic

  
  

  

  
  
• Bloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662

  August 2019 edited August 2019

  What is the ArchePass exactly?
  
  [Edit]
  
  Okay, found some info about it and I don't like it. It's essentially the fortnite equivalent of the monthly rewards with requirements to get them. There's a catch tough, there a free AND also a premium tier.
  
  They say it's only for cosmetics... but for how long?

  Post edited by Bloodaxes on August 2019

  
  
• Viper482 Member LegendaryPosts: 4,064

  August 2019 edited August 2019

  Basically screw those who already paid you for founders packs with the original game. No, screw you gamigo. 
  
  This is a cash grab, period. Otherwise people who already bought founder packs would be given this for "free" in order to win them back as customers. No one in their right mind would get suckered by the original then come back and pay these chumps again. Not just no, but HELL NO.
  

  

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