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New ship featuring new gameplay announced - $675

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  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,084
    Elsabolts said:
    Could Roberts file for bankruptcy and keep all the concept money ?
    If he has cash in the bank it would have to be used to settle accounts.  You can not declare bankruptcy without actually showing you cannot met you financial commitments.
  • ElsaboltsElsabolts Member RarePosts: 3,431
    Horusra said:
    Elsabolts said:
    Could Roberts file for bankruptcy and keep all the concept money ?
    If he has cash in the bank it would have to be used to settle accounts.  You can not declare bankruptcy without actually showing you cannot met you financial commitments.

    Is this the same for say Swiss bank accounts ?

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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,822
    They really should work on finishing up the back ordered ships that some backers have been waiting on for years.  But the backers seem happy to buy now and wait later to get their ships so maybe it's just me.  This new ship is probably 2 or 3 years from production unless 'instock' means flight ready.

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  • VrikaVrika Member EpicPosts: 5,733
    They really should work on finishing up the back ordered ships that some backers have been waiting on for years.  But the backers seem happy to buy now and wait later to get their ships so maybe it's just me.  This new ship is probably 2 or 3 years from production unless 'instock' means flight ready.
    Them finishing the ships isn't too much problem at this point. Even if they're behind they're producing them at a good enough pace.

    But at current pace it would take more than 10 years for them make all the required engine and gameplay, and with mines they again added another new gameplay mechanism.
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  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,017
    Elsabolts said:
    Could Roberts file for bankruptcy and keep all the concept money ?
    He's already let the cat out of the bag on this issue.

    MVP. Minimum Viable Product. The out he has to fulfill the vague Kickstarter agreement attached to SC. SQ42 in ANY form released fulfills that requirement. I believe that will be the final product that is put out.
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  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 2,255
    Adding a minelayer/sweeper ship was in the plans since 2014. It was just low priority over other ships and that's why it's only been announced now.

    The priority of ships is also dictated by the single player campaign Squadron 42. Some ships are ready but will only be making their way into Star Citizen after Squadron42 release.
  • Viper482Viper482 Member EpicPosts: 2,637
    The only game I have ever truly wished failure upon. I hope this crook goes to jail. 
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  • hfztthfztt Member RarePosts: 1,341
    Elsabolts said:
    Could Roberts file for bankruptcy and keep all the concept money ?
    Bankruptcy? No.
    Never deliver a game and walk away with what he earned in the process? Yes. 
  • SlyLoKSlyLoK Member RarePosts: 2,608
    edited August 25
    What is the point of a minesweeper in space? Couldn't you I dunno just fly around / over / under the minefield? Or just detonate them from a safe distance with a turret?

    I guess there is some usefulness there on a planet level but it should be a ground vehicle instead of a spaceship. Whoops I just gave them another idea. 
  • NorseGodNorseGod Member RarePosts: 2,092
    Phry said:
    frostymug said:
    CIG announced a new ship at its recent 'Aegis VIP' event.

    To buy tickets for the event you needed to have spent over $1000 on Star Citizen, the tickets were $275 per head and in return for your $275 you got the privilege of being pitched a new $675 ship for you to spend your money on...

    Holy moly....


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    One has to wonder really, i mean it could be years before the game is released, and even then there is little indication that the games servers will even support the player numbers for just one of these ships, of course, turning concept art into an actual in game item, who knows how long that will actually take, i am surprised they even have enough time to develop the game with the backlog of ships they have yet to 'finish'  :p
    Not only the backlog of ships they sold years ago that still don't exist, but each of the individual game mechanics that are unique to those ships still do not exist.

    By selling an idea of a minelayer ship, they just added yet another game mechanic that will never get done.

    And like somebody already said, "it would be fun to be a minesweeper", which then becomes yet another game mechanic that doesn't exist. And so on and so forth.
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  • Prime_DirectivePrime_Directive Member RarePosts: 1,120
    Babuinix said:
    Well ship prices are also based also on how costly is to make a ship not only on how valuable it will be in terms of gameplay or how rare it should be.

     These aren't simple reskins or small cosmetic items but big vehicles fully modelled and detailed at a 1:1 scale inside and out.
    They need to have functional and modelled interiors, damage states gfx along with graphics, animated landing gears, etc.

    In the end having so many ships it makes for a richier and more diverse universe for everyone.

    This luxury ship bellow costed 890$


    Despite not having much firepower or military value it caters to the RP's and second life folks who want to be space milionaires cruising in style lol

    Whatever floats their boat!

    Thanks for pledging I guess!  B)
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  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 10,823
    I don't understand how ships that are running players hundreds of dollars for a game that isn't even close to launching is a temptation? I could do so many more things with $675 than waste it on a ship in a video game.
    I am not a wealthy person by any means, so that kind of money i would never dream of spending on just one game, its a significant amount, so for someone to think of that kind of money as being inconsequential, they are the types that never ask how much something costs. :/
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  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,879
    Star Citizen is the best worst thing in the history of PC gaming.

    How could anyone with sense be angry with Chris Rober... ohhhh, never mind.  :D


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  • Jamar870Jamar870 Member UncommonPosts: 351
    Wonder when this game even makes it to beta what kind of system will be needed to play it?  $4,000, $6,000 or $10,000 system?
  • hikaru77hikaru77 Member UncommonPosts: 1,117
    rodarin said:
    They certainly got their target audience. I want to see how much theyre paying people who psychoanalyze the idiots who keep spending money on this nonsense. But then again they probably dont need such a 'specialist'.

    Everything about this feeds to some mental defect in people. 

    Having a 'special' (probably billed as 'secret' as well) meeting. One for "ViPs'' (whose only 'importance' was they have spent over a grand on this abortion) CHARGE them for it, and then roll out yet ANOTHER 500+ dollar ship. Then for the final touch they are (another) 'exclusive' and numbering the ships in the order in which they are purchased?

    Also its a ship that apparently has more 'game' features. In something thats NOT a game, and features that dont even exist in the tech demo fantasyland theyre all living it.

    Incredible. Actually not really. Until people STOP buying this shit or the guy gets arrested it will continue perpetually. Because that is what this is now. I am sure its a game to these guys at this point. Trying to figure out how long they can keep it going and fool people. With little to no threat of any real world consequences for this scam why stop? If you dont have a conscience then there is nothing to answer to for these guys.
    They are making the biggest PC game ever made in the mankind history without the support of monsters like EA, Ubisoft, Activision, etc etc etc etc. People support the game, because CiG is building the game they want.
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  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,166
    Jamar870 said:
    Wonder when this game even makes it to beta what kind of system will be needed to play it?  $4,000, $6,000 or $10,000 system?
    I wasn't aware that they were adding real time Ray Tracing!
  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy Member EpicPosts: 3,225
    hikaru77 said:
    rodarin said:
    They certainly got their target audience. I want to see how much theyre paying people who psychoanalyze the idiots who keep spending money on this nonsense. But then again they probably dont need such a 'specialist'.

    Everything about this feeds to some mental defect in people. 

    Having a 'special' (probably billed as 'secret' as well) meeting. One for "ViPs'' (whose only 'importance' was they have spent over a grand on this abortion) CHARGE them for it, and then roll out yet ANOTHER 500+ dollar ship. Then for the final touch they are (another) 'exclusive' and numbering the ships in the order in which they are purchased?

    Also its a ship that apparently has more 'game' features. In something thats NOT a game, and features that dont even exist in the tech demo fantasyland theyre all living it.

    Incredible. Actually not really. Until people STOP buying this shit or the guy gets arrested it will continue perpetually. Because that is what this is now. I am sure its a game to these guys at this point. Trying to figure out how long they can keep it going and fool people. With little to no threat of any real world consequences for this scam why stop? If you dont have a conscience then there is nothing to answer to for these guys.
    They are making the biggest PC game ever made in the mankind history without the support of monsters like EA, Ubisoft, Activision, etc etc etc etc. People support the game, because CiG is building the game they want.

    Biggest PC game in the history of mankind?

    There are other games that feature larger amounts of star systems,planets, moons, asteroid fields, stations, outposts, NPCs etc than SC will ever dream of having.
    The only place SC is different is a higher level of graphical detail and that is coming at a very high cost.

    After 7 years what they want to do is becoming more and more irrelevant, the only thing that should really matter is what they have actually done.
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  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 9,679
    The minelayer ship was one of the choices from the 4th wave of ships. Lost the poll against the third starter ship in that 2014 poll. But they wanted to implement all the ships on that list. It is not - as some people claim - a recent invention. See also other ships from that list as stretch goals (around the 60 M$ mark).

    Have fun
  • UtinniUtinni Member RarePosts: 894
    Albatroes said:
    and people complain that BDO is pay to win
    This game isn't even p2w, its pay-to-fantasize lol.
    Or pay-to-lose. Only CR is winning.
  • lahnmirlahnmir Member EpicPosts: 2,739
    Jamar870 said:
    Wonder when this game even makes it to beta what kind of system will be needed to play it?  $4,000, $6,000 or $10,000 system?
    I am running it on max settings right now with “just” a 1070 8gb, 32gb RAM and an SSD.

    /Cheers,
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    But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.

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  • NorseGodNorseGod Member RarePosts: 2,092
    edited August 25
    bartoni33 said:
    Elsabolts said:
    Could Roberts file for bankruptcy and keep all the concept money ?
    He's already let the cat out of the bag on this issue.

    MVP. Minimum Viable Product. The out he has to fulfill the vague Kickstarter agreement attached to SC. SQ42 in ANY form released fulfills that requirement. I believe that will be the final product that is put out.
    Oh I agree. I think it more likely releases as an MVP, than not release at all. The first clue is SQ42: Chapter 1. Guess what "Chapter 1" means in lawyer speak.

    Think Anthem.
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  • NorseGodNorseGod Member RarePosts: 2,092
    edited August 25
    hikaru77 said:
    rodarin said:

    They are making the biggest PC game ever made in the mankind history 
    There is no evidence of that.

    After 7 years, they haven't finished even 1 of 100 systems they said would be in game. 

    I don't know if you are familiar with what "Ship Spinning" is in EVE Online.

    But, when it comes to selling these ships with unique roles, that depend on individual mechanics to allow those roles, that don't even exist 7 years later, it will be the biggest ship spinning game in history.

    Do you know why there is a chance these game mechanics won't make it into the game? Because they still haven't finished the core engine/networking yet.

    They don't know what they are capable of doing after the engine and networking is finished. They are selling dreams. No documentation, no working tech demos of these ship specific game mechanics, just dreams.

    Will the release something? I think they will release something. But, there's a good chance it will be a watered-down Minimum Viable Product. 
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  • bentrimbentrim Member UncommonPosts: 237
    There appears to be a fine line between reality and FRAUD!
  • NorseGodNorseGod Member RarePosts: 2,092
    SlyLoK said:
    What is the point of a minesweeper in space? Couldn't you I dunno just fly around / over / under the minefield? Or just detonate them from a safe distance with a turret?

    I guess there is some usefulness there on a planet level but it should be a ground vehicle instead of a spaceship. Whoops I just gave them another idea. 
    Mine Destroyer Tanks go on sale next month for $1000. Act now! Supplies are going fast!


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  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 2,255
    edited August 25
    A space game so irrelevant that even in alpha beats all the other games in twitch viewership and people can't stop talking about it :D

    It's simple the most successful crowdfunding campaign ever and the most ambitious video-game ever attempted!

    Only in Star Citizen: So irrelevant that even in alpha has a considerable twitch following surpassing most games of it's genre despite being the most demanding game to run, still in alpha and players progress is wiped every 3 months minimum lol

    All because of little moments like this: www.twitch.tv/videos/471475149?t=1h7m26s

    B)
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