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  • ElonMuskElonMusk Member UncommonPosts: 64
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  • VrikaVrika Member EpicPosts: 5,928
    This isn’t about video games, nor the sale off guns. It’s fact that 11 countries including France , Canada and 9 more have more mass shootings the USA. We’re number 12 in the civilized nation around the world. This is about MENTAL ILLNESS and ignoring major red flags that the insane, racist and evil people post. This was said about HOLLYWOOD multiple times. The Movies are violence spreading and promoting violence. I loved Rambo and Comando when I was 12 my 2 top action movies, Evil dead and Nightmares on Elm st. I never once thought of doing evil after them. Unfortunately Evil People well do Evil things.
    That's false research.

    Looking at the original research's incident list, for example in 2015 they managed to find 4 mass shootings in USA. Reseach here:
      https://crimeresearch.org/2018/08/new-cprc-research-how-a-botched-study-fooled-the-world-about-the-u-s-share-of-mass-public-shootings-u-s-rate-is-lower-than-global-average/

    At the same time-gun violence archive found 21 mass shootings in United states (using criteria of at least 4 killed, perpetrator not counted):
      https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting?year=2015&sort=desc&order=%23%20Killed

    That's not to say USA would have most mass shootings, some unstable countries have even more of those. USA just has more than any of the western countries.
     
  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Vrika said:
    This isn’t about video games, nor the sale off guns. It’s fact that 11 countries including France , Canada and 9 more have more mass shootings the USA. We’re number 12 in the civilized nation around the world. This is about MENTAL ILLNESS and ignoring major red flags that the insane, racist and evil people post. This was said about HOLLYWOOD multiple times. The Movies are violence spreading and promoting violence. I loved Rambo and Comando when I was 12 my 2 top action movies, Evil dead and Nightmares on Elm st. I never once thought of doing evil after them. Unfortunately Evil People well do Evil things.
    That's false research.

    Looking at the original research's incident list, for example in 2015 they managed to find 4 mass shootings in USA. Reseach here:
      https://crimeresearch.org/2018/08/new-cprc-research-how-a-botched-study-fooled-the-world-about-the-u-s-share-of-mass-public-shootings-u-s-rate-is-lower-than-global-average/

    At the same time-gun violence archive found 21 mass shootings in United states (using criteria of at least 4 killed, perpetrator not counted):
      https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting?year=2015&sort=desc&order=%23%20Killed

    That's not to say USA would have most mass shootings, some unstable countries have even more of those. USA just has more than any of the western countries.
    Various 'orgs' might claim to have some degree of authenticity, but in the end a lot of it is opinion based with restricted data sets, whether their opinions are worth listening too is purely a personal choice. Claiming that the USA has more than other western countries is an unsupported claim and likely  means you have to severely limit what is being classed as a 'western' country, Venezuela in particular, along with other similar countries, you might even have to remove France from the list  :p
  • VrikaVrika Member EpicPosts: 5,928
    Phry said:
    Vrika said:
    This isn’t about video games, nor the sale off guns. It’s fact that 11 countries including France , Canada and 9 more have more mass shootings the USA. We’re number 12 in the civilized nation around the world. This is about MENTAL ILLNESS and ignoring major red flags that the insane, racist and evil people post. This was said about HOLLYWOOD multiple times. The Movies are violence spreading and promoting violence. I loved Rambo and Comando when I was 12 my 2 top action movies, Evil dead and Nightmares on Elm st. I never once thought of doing evil after them. Unfortunately Evil People well do Evil things.
    That's false research.

    Looking at the original research's incident list, for example in 2015 they managed to find 4 mass shootings in USA. Reseach here:
      https://crimeresearch.org/2018/08/new-cprc-research-how-a-botched-study-fooled-the-world-about-the-u-s-share-of-mass-public-shootings-u-s-rate-is-lower-than-global-average/

    At the same time-gun violence archive found 21 mass shootings in United states (using criteria of at least 4 killed, perpetrator not counted):
      https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting?year=2015&sort=desc&order=%23%20Killed

    That's not to say USA would have most mass shootings, some unstable countries have even more of those. USA just has more than any of the western countries.
    Various 'orgs' might claim to have some degree of authenticity, but in the end a lot of it is opinion based with restricted data sets, whether their opinions are worth listening too is purely a personal choice. Claiming that the USA has more than other western countries is an unsupported claim and likely  means you have to severely limit what is being classed as a 'western' country, Venezuela in particular, along with other similar countries, you might even have to remove France from the list  :p
    Yes, true for Venezuela. By Western countries I meant USA, Canada, EU area, Australia and New Zealand. If you were to go to southern America, Middle East or Africa you'd find a lot of countries that have way worse problems.

    Also while I'm not sure about France, I think Norway would top the death in mass shootings/residents ratio for western countries. Though that it more just a statistic anomaly because they had one huge incident and they're small enough country that it's likely enough to give them top spot.
     
  • VrikaVrika Member EpicPosts: 5,928
    edited August 12
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  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Vrika said:
    Phry said:
    Vrika said:
    This isn’t about video games, nor the sale off guns. It’s fact that 11 countries including France , Canada and 9 more have more mass shootings the USA. We’re number 12 in the civilized nation around the world. This is about MENTAL ILLNESS and ignoring major red flags that the insane, racist and evil people post. This was said about HOLLYWOOD multiple times. The Movies are violence spreading and promoting violence. I loved Rambo and Comando when I was 12 my 2 top action movies, Evil dead and Nightmares on Elm st. I never once thought of doing evil after them. Unfortunately Evil People well do Evil things.
    That's false research.

    Looking at the original research's incident list, for example in 2015 they managed to find 4 mass shootings in USA. Reseach here:
      https://crimeresearch.org/2018/08/new-cprc-research-how-a-botched-study-fooled-the-world-about-the-u-s-share-of-mass-public-shootings-u-s-rate-is-lower-than-global-average/

    At the same time-gun violence archive found 21 mass shootings in United states (using criteria of at least 4 killed, perpetrator not counted):
      https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting?year=2015&sort=desc&order=%23%20Killed

    That's not to say USA would have most mass shootings, some unstable countries have even more of those. USA just has more than any of the western countries.
    Various 'orgs' might claim to have some degree of authenticity, but in the end a lot of it is opinion based with restricted data sets, whether their opinions are worth listening too is purely a personal choice. Claiming that the USA has more than other western countries is an unsupported claim and likely  means you have to severely limit what is being classed as a 'western' country, Venezuela in particular, along with other similar countries, you might even have to remove France from the list  :p
    Yes, true for Venezuela. By Western countries I meant USA, Canada, EU area, Australia and New Zealand. If you were to go to southern America, Middle East or Africa you'd find a lot of countries that have way worse problems.

    Also while I'm not sure about France, I think Norway would top the death in mass shootings/residents ratio for western countries. Though that it more just a statistic anomaly because they had one huge incident and they're small enough country that it's likely enough to give them top spot.
    I think Sweden can likely give Norway a run for its money, it has a lot of no go zones (Malmo etc.) and lately its a country i definitely would not feel safe visiting while white. There is often a huge disparity between reported crime and actual crime, events like police stations coming under grenade attack hit the news far less than you would expect, and yet it happens. :/
  • VrikaVrika Member EpicPosts: 5,928
    edited August 12
    Phry said:
    Vrika said:
    Phry said:
    Vrika said:
    This isn’t about video games, nor the sale off guns. It’s fact that 11 countries including France , Canada and 9 more have more mass shootings the USA. We’re number 12 in the civilized nation around the world. This is about MENTAL ILLNESS and ignoring major red flags that the insane, racist and evil people post. This was said about HOLLYWOOD multiple times. The Movies are violence spreading and promoting violence. I loved Rambo and Comando when I was 12 my 2 top action movies, Evil dead and Nightmares on Elm st. I never once thought of doing evil after them. Unfortunately Evil People well do Evil things.
    That's false research.

    Looking at the original research's incident list, for example in 2015 they managed to find 4 mass shootings in USA. Reseach here:
      https://crimeresearch.org/2018/08/new-cprc-research-how-a-botched-study-fooled-the-world-about-the-u-s-share-of-mass-public-shootings-u-s-rate-is-lower-than-global-average/

    At the same time-gun violence archive found 21 mass shootings in United states (using criteria of at least 4 killed, perpetrator not counted):
      https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting?year=2015&sort=desc&order=%23%20Killed

    That's not to say USA would have most mass shootings, some unstable countries have even more of those. USA just has more than any of the western countries.
    Various 'orgs' might claim to have some degree of authenticity, but in the end a lot of it is opinion based with restricted data sets, whether their opinions are worth listening too is purely a personal choice. Claiming that the USA has more than other western countries is an unsupported claim and likely  means you have to severely limit what is being classed as a 'western' country, Venezuela in particular, along with other similar countries, you might even have to remove France from the list  :p
    Yes, true for Venezuela. By Western countries I meant USA, Canada, EU area, Australia and New Zealand. If you were to go to southern America, Middle East or Africa you'd find a lot of countries that have way worse problems.

    Also while I'm not sure about France, I think Norway would top the death in mass shootings/residents ratio for western countries. Though that it more just a statistic anomaly because they had one huge incident and they're small enough country that it's likely enough to give them top spot.
    I think Sweden can likely give Norway a run for its money, it has a lot of no go zones (Malmo etc.) and lately its a country i definitely would not feel safe visiting while white. There is often a huge disparity between reported crime and actual crime, events like police stations coming under grenade attack hit the news far less than you would expect, and yet it happens. :/
    Not for mass shootings, which we were talking about.

    For Sweden the total number of homicides per 100 000 inhabitants is 1.1, whereas USA scores 5.3. Even if Sweden has huge problems in small area of the country, total number of homicides is large enough that a single problem area doesn't affect it that much.
     
  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Vrika said:
    Phry said:
    Vrika said:
    Phry said:
    Vrika said:
    This isn’t about video games, nor the sale off guns. It’s fact that 11 countries including France , Canada and 9 more have more mass shootings the USA. We’re number 12 in the civilized nation around the world. This is about MENTAL ILLNESS and ignoring major red flags that the insane, racist and evil people post. This was said about HOLLYWOOD multiple times. The Movies are violence spreading and promoting violence. I loved Rambo and Comando when I was 12 my 2 top action movies, Evil dead and Nightmares on Elm st. I never once thought of doing evil after them. Unfortunately Evil People well do Evil things.
    That's false research.

    Looking at the original research's incident list, for example in 2015 they managed to find 4 mass shootings in USA. Reseach here:
      https://crimeresearch.org/2018/08/new-cprc-research-how-a-botched-study-fooled-the-world-about-the-u-s-share-of-mass-public-shootings-u-s-rate-is-lower-than-global-average/

    At the same time-gun violence archive found 21 mass shootings in United states (using criteria of at least 4 killed, perpetrator not counted):
      https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting?year=2015&sort=desc&order=%23%20Killed

    That's not to say USA would have most mass shootings, some unstable countries have even more of those. USA just has more than any of the western countries.
    Various 'orgs' might claim to have some degree of authenticity, but in the end a lot of it is opinion based with restricted data sets, whether their opinions are worth listening too is purely a personal choice. Claiming that the USA has more than other western countries is an unsupported claim and likely  means you have to severely limit what is being classed as a 'western' country, Venezuela in particular, along with other similar countries, you might even have to remove France from the list  :p
    Yes, true for Venezuela. By Western countries I meant USA, Canada, EU area, Australia and New Zealand. If you were to go to southern America, Middle East or Africa you'd find a lot of countries that have way worse problems.

    Also while I'm not sure about France, I think Norway would top the death in mass shootings/residents ratio for western countries. Though that it more just a statistic anomaly because they had one huge incident and they're small enough country that it's likely enough to give them top spot.
    I think Sweden can likely give Norway a run for its money, it has a lot of no go zones (Malmo etc.) and lately its a country i definitely would not feel safe visiting while white. There is often a huge disparity between reported crime and actual crime, events like police stations coming under grenade attack hit the news far less than you would expect, and yet it happens. :/
    Not for mass shootings, which we were talking about.

    For Sweden the total number of homicides per 100 000 inhabitants is 1.1, whereas USA scores 5.3. Even if Sweden has huge problems in small area of the country, total number of homicides is large enough that a single problem area doesn't affect it that much.
    When it comes to Sweden i wouldn't exactly call 'Malmo' a small area, and its not the only part of the country with issues, as for Mass shootings, i think its fairly safe to assume that Sweden would score quite highly, if they were actually keeping records of them and not 'sweeping them under the carpet' so to speak. :/
  • AriesTigerAriesTiger Member UncommonPosts: 424
    Just shows you how millenials are ruining every business they touch. Wal-mart is all about the bare minimum on everything to float all those profits to the top.

    Then millenials come in...stink up the show and this is the crap they do.
  • VrikaVrika Member EpicPosts: 5,928
    Phry said:
    Vrika said:
    Phry said:
    Vrika said:
    Phry said:
    Vrika said:
    This isn’t about video games, nor the sale off guns. It’s fact that 11 countries including France , Canada and 9 more have more mass shootings the USA. We’re number 12 in the civilized nation around the world. This is about MENTAL ILLNESS and ignoring major red flags that the insane, racist and evil people post. This was said about HOLLYWOOD multiple times. The Movies are violence spreading and promoting violence. I loved Rambo and Comando when I was 12 my 2 top action movies, Evil dead and Nightmares on Elm st. I never once thought of doing evil after them. Unfortunately Evil People well do Evil things.
    That's false research.

    Looking at the original research's incident list, for example in 2015 they managed to find 4 mass shootings in USA. Reseach here:
      https://crimeresearch.org/2018/08/new-cprc-research-how-a-botched-study-fooled-the-world-about-the-u-s-share-of-mass-public-shootings-u-s-rate-is-lower-than-global-average/

    At the same time-gun violence archive found 21 mass shootings in United states (using criteria of at least 4 killed, perpetrator not counted):
      https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting?year=2015&sort=desc&order=%23%20Killed

    That's not to say USA would have most mass shootings, some unstable countries have even more of those. USA just has more than any of the western countries.
    Various 'orgs' might claim to have some degree of authenticity, but in the end a lot of it is opinion based with restricted data sets, whether their opinions are worth listening too is purely a personal choice. Claiming that the USA has more than other western countries is an unsupported claim and likely  means you have to severely limit what is being classed as a 'western' country, Venezuela in particular, along with other similar countries, you might even have to remove France from the list  :p
    Yes, true for Venezuela. By Western countries I meant USA, Canada, EU area, Australia and New Zealand. If you were to go to southern America, Middle East or Africa you'd find a lot of countries that have way worse problems.

    Also while I'm not sure about France, I think Norway would top the death in mass shootings/residents ratio for western countries. Though that it more just a statistic anomaly because they had one huge incident and they're small enough country that it's likely enough to give them top spot.
    I think Sweden can likely give Norway a run for its money, it has a lot of no go zones (Malmo etc.) and lately its a country i definitely would not feel safe visiting while white. There is often a huge disparity between reported crime and actual crime, events like police stations coming under grenade attack hit the news far less than you would expect, and yet it happens. :/
    Not for mass shootings, which we were talking about.

    For Sweden the total number of homicides per 100 000 inhabitants is 1.1, whereas USA scores 5.3. Even if Sweden has huge problems in small area of the country, total number of homicides is large enough that a single problem area doesn't affect it that much.
    When it comes to Sweden i wouldn't exactly call 'Malmo' a small area, and its not the only part of the country with issues, as for Mass shootings, i think its fairly safe to assume that Sweden would score quite highly, if they were actually keeping records of them and not 'sweeping them under the carpet' so to speak. :/
    Malmö has a bit over 3% of Sweden's inhabitants. Statistically that's small.

    Also Sweden is ranked third in World Press Freedom Index (USA is 48th). When something happens there it's very hard for officials to sweep it under the carpet.
     
  • nyxiumnyxium Member UncommonPosts: 1,306
    edited August 12
    Adorable. I know lots of people who play violent video games but none have ever commited violent crimes in the real world. I feel sorry for the victims of this crime but I don't blame video games for it. I do blame mass hysteria and scapegoating video games. Which is sad.
    nycplayboy78JeffSpicoli
  • nycplayboy78nycplayboy78 Member UncommonPosts: 200
    nyxium said:
    Adorable. I know lots of people who play violent video games but none have ever commited violent crimes in the real world. I feel sorry for the victims of this crime but I don't blame video games for it. I do blame mass hysteria and scapegoating video games. Which is sad.
    ^^ ALL OF THIS ^^
  • samooryesordsamooryesord Member UncommonPosts: 70
    Every game is violent if you play them right. ;)
  • jonp200jonp200 Member UncommonPosts: 453

    Vrika said:

    Physical video game sales have been losing ground to digital sales quite rapidly. While Walmart's decision may be a reaction to shootings, they're also in a situation where they're losing competition and probably looking to give video game's space to other products

    US computer and video game sales by delivery format:


      Source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/190225/digital-and-physical-game-sales-in-the-us-since-2009/



    I agree. This is an excuse to pull the trigger (pun intended) on replacing shelf space and trying to win some goodwill. Personally, I no longer purchase physical media and that's more than a trend.
    Tiller

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  • Riqqy82Riqqy82 Member UncommonPosts: 82
    well in a society that everything is flipped around what do you expect, mental illness now has a voice (democratic party) and is a way of life for them, you want to know why the polls are off and people get behind one party saying the other rigged it? its simple you have registered democrats like myself voting republican because they democrats arent for the working class anymore, they are only for the mentally ill people of america. So when they gather their information state to state, sure it looks like the wack job democratic runners are winning, but in reality they are not, the democrats have 20 people running, the republicans have 2 last i checked, it only shows they have no leadership.
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  • JaimlJaiml Member UncommonPosts: 127
    So no APEX on TV but both John Wick movies were shown on Friday night on another station. I'm sure there were probably a few more movies / TV shows with violence shown over the weekend...

    I guess it is just video games that make people violent.
  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    Watching some of these mentally retarded responses just proves it ain't video games, music, or movies. It's...


    Just do the United States a favor and stay away from public places with that weirdo, illogical, xChan troll developed mess going on in your "brain".
    Aeander
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  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,560
    So... This is the move GameStop was pulling all along? Near bankrupcy and now parents will have to buy there again. 
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  • PemminPemmin Member UncommonPosts: 622
    edited August 12
    Vrika said:
    This isn’t about video games, nor the sale off guns. It’s fact that 11 countries including France , Canada and 9 more have more mass shootings the USA. We’re number 12 in the civilized nation around the world. This is about MENTAL ILLNESS and ignoring major red flags that the insane, racist and evil people post. This was said about HOLLYWOOD multiple times. The Movies are violence spreading and promoting violence. I loved Rambo and Comando when I was 12 my 2 top action movies, Evil dead and Nightmares on Elm st. I never once thought of doing evil after them. Unfortunately Evil People well do Evil things.
    That's false research.

    Looking at the original research's incident list, for example in 2015 they managed to find 4 mass shootings in USA. Reseach here:
      https://crimeresearch.org/2018/08/new-cprc-research-how-a-botched-study-fooled-the-world-about-the-u-s-share-of-mass-public-shootings-u-s-rate-is-lower-than-global-average/

    At the same time-gun violence archive found 21 mass shootings in United states (using criteria of at least 4 killed, perpetrator not counted):
      https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting?year=2015&sort=desc&order=%23%20Killed

    That's not to say USA would have most mass shootings, some unstable countries have even more of those. USA just has more than any of the western countries.
    see that's my problem with the using 4 victims as a definition for a "mass" shooting. pretty much everyone of those "low" victim count shootings was crime, drug, or mental illness targeting related parties not indiscriminate killings. getting rid of guns(or even just "assault" weapons) wouldn't have prevented those deaths. They're "mass" killings with the instrument of choice being a gun. A bomb, arson, or vehicle would have been just as effective. My problem with bans is that they don't address the three issues I listed above and merely use the tool as a scapegoat....its literally the same thing as saying video games are to blame. there is roughly 400million civilian owned guns in the US and using 21 shootings at least 4 victims rule as the number.... it puts the odds of any one gun being used in a mass killing at roughly 21/400000000 = 0.000005% (and note that's all guns not just assault weapons). now if we were able to verify the number of gamers (assuming roughly 165million in the us in 2015) involved in mass killings (which i did find an article for 2015... dunno how accurate but its realistically a stupid statistic to begin with https://www.charismanews.com/culture/52651-14-mass-murders-linked-to-violent-video-games)...so the odds of any one gamer being involved in a mass killing is 14/165000000 = 0.000008%. so the videogamers are the bigger number. Now you can see why these statistics are stupid....because they purposely exclude other factors.


    Now that being said im all for more gun control..... convicted criminals and mentally ill having the right being taken away, gun licenses, limited cartridge size, even limits to open carry). but im against flat out bannings. living in a area where the nearest police station is 40mins away at 60mph with break ins and drug crime being realitively common....im going to protect myself regardless of whether it becomes illegal or not.

    As for the Walmart thing...I think its just pandering in order to justify getting out of contracts. 
    Post edited by Pemmin on
  • mmrvmmrv Member RarePosts: 302
    Utinni said:




    The NRA has 8 million dollars "on record" in campaign donations, You know how much the gaming industry contributed ? Zero babe.... A big donut. Its cute though watching the MMORPG crowd bicker about race politics and all the other nonsense that MSM has people worked up over. I'm no Trumptard but he is right when he says drain the swamp.



    I had 4 blood pressure medications recalled in the past 2 years because of cancer causing agents 4 TIMES !!! Anyone wanna know the astronomical dollar amount Big Pharma contributes to both Republicans and democrats ? Democrats being the worst offenders FYI.









    This thread isn't about race politics.  This thread is about Walmart etc scapegoating videogames, which is what they and Donald Trump are doing regardless of what weird offtopic thing about "Big Pharma" and your blood pressure you are trying to inject into the thread.



    Imagine thinking the NRA only has 8 million in campaign donations LOL
    Imagine thinking the gaming industry doesn't donate to politics or lobby. I know its pure coincidence that everyone is ignoring a trillion dollar industry exploiting kids with gambling loot boxes, nobody is turning a blind eye or receiving money /rolls eyes.
  • Riqqy82Riqqy82 Member UncommonPosts: 82
    id almost agree with you but criminals dont follow rules sooo theres that, more rules laws restrictions regualtions, it makes the good guys weaker and the bad guys stronger

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  • mmrvmmrv Member RarePosts: 302
    laserit said:

    Albatroes said:

    The interesting thing about these Walmarts in the locations that were threatened is that they sell firearms.....but I'm sure video games is the problem.




    Maybe they think that the citizens nearby might actually want to purchase a LEGAL firearm to protect themselves?
    Imagine if one deranged gunman starts shooting and 25 start shooting back. Who knows who’s the good guy? One could only imagine the carnage.


    Well actually we do know the carnage and its less. In most every case the end of these shootings is not because of gunmans arm or finger got tired, nor is it that they ran out of bullets. Its because either the police or an armed citizen shot them dead or forced them to flee or surrender, and oddly enough there is almost never "collateral damage" from the armed citizen. Oddly enough it turns out the best way to stop these lunatics is to return fire...even as armed civilians.
  • Riqqy82Riqqy82 Member UncommonPosts: 82
    its why you cant beat hackers in video games XD

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  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    edited August 12
    Keep it up
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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 6,166
    mmrv said:
    laserit said:

    Albatroes said:

    The interesting thing about these Walmarts in the locations that were threatened is that they sell firearms.....but I'm sure video games is the problem.




    Maybe they think that the citizens nearby might actually want to purchase a LEGAL firearm to protect themselves?
    Imagine if one deranged gunman starts shooting and 25 start shooting back. Who knows who’s the good guy? One could only imagine the carnage.


    Well actually we do know the carnage and its less. In most every case the end of these shootings is not because of gunmans arm or finger got tired, nor is it that they ran out of bullets. Its because either the police or an armed citizen shot them dead or forced them to flee or surrender, and oddly enough there is almost never "collateral damage" from the armed citizen. Oddly enough it turns out the best way to stop these lunatics is to return fire...even as armed civilians.
    Can you please link some of these mass shootings where an armed civilian saved the day. I'm not saying it doesn't happen.

    Also in many of these mass shootings (the ones I've seen on the news) the shooter takes their own life.

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