Do you think we as gamers have become pie charts in boardroom presentations?
My response to the question is that I believe studios know that we will literally buy anything in any condition, quality, or price model. With that data, they know exactly what they need (or don't need, aka "MVP") to turn a profit.
IMO, studios will never attempt to innovate, produce quality, or be reasonable with pricing models, if we keep rewarding them with our money without reservation.
We are predictable data now, not gamers.
We hold the power though. We could force change since the studios won't do it, by showing some will, restraint, and a little self-respect.
I know the odds are against us to bring this change. We have influencers/shills making money on Youtube and Twitch. Their followers are just that, followers, and will buy anything that the "cool guy streamer/content creator" tells them to. If we are only as strong as our weakest link, the "followers" are the weakest link.
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I think the landscape has changed. EA for me is a way that game companies try to balance the outlandish cost of games by starting to get revenue at 67% completion instead of 100% of completion. It is probably an evolutionary pressure that has occurred on gaming companies that a lot of them have to do it to survive with a few exceptions (Blizzard).
You can see my sci-fi/WW2 book recommendations.
Generally speaking, we equate popularity or population into the question of success or failure. They equate breaking even or making a profit.
Guess who's opinion matters most? Judging by the relentless flood of the same crap in a different wrapper, I'm going to say, the studios' definition.
If studios data shows that it's easier to "play it safe", then we can make it unsafe. And we do that by not rewarding them with money just because they released a re-skinned turd.
We totally have the power to control the direction and practices of the genera. Yeah, there is an endless ocean of dumbasses that will still buy anything. But, losing 10-20% or more on your P&L statement is a huge deal to these studios.
Stop falling for it and starve the beast.
I have only so much time to go around, and already a huge collection of games to go through... so... they'll be sorely disappointed with this gamer ;D
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https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/
So the answer is yes, once games become mainstream culture, it's not a matter of getting them to buy, it's a matter getting them to buy yours and not the other guys. You can shovel shit and still make it.
Philosophy of MMO Game Design
Developers have no idea what gamers want, but they do know what gamers purchase.
Makes sense they would continue to keep making games similar to what has succeeded previously, what other hard data do they have?
Which is why it's a fallacy to think if you and 20% of other gamers all stop buying it will result in devs creating a game you guys will all like.
Gamers by and large stopped buying and paying for AAA MMORPGs and quite predictably, such games have largely stopped being made while everyone and their brother falls over themselves to make BRs.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
I think when I wrote that, I was thinking about innovation, quality, and a reasonable pricing model.
BRs are for those console mouth-breathers. Who cares what they want, they were never invited in the first place.
With that being said...
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
I buy games because I like them, I don’t think there is anybody out there that does it for another reason. Are they all amazing? Nope but a lot are. Not every movie/play/concert I attend is amazing, that doesn’t mean I stop going. Not every meal in a restaurant is amazing, that doesn’t mean I stop going. Not every country I visit is amazing, that doesn’t mean I stop travelling. You get the idea.
There are more good games out there then I can ever play, I can’t believe some are starved for one, perhaps standards are unrealistic or, with an exception or two, you actually don’t like games to begin with, or not anymore.
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Now i buy only what i am looking for,i have specific types of game designs i look for and that is it.
The hobby of gaming has run very dry,the only innovation are really bad,cheap games,including the likes of the Clash of type games,the simple loot shooters and the real simple cheap games like the Team Tactics,Dota chess crap.
Most of these games would cost the developers very little to make,very little time investment,very little effort.Oh but they are all mostly f2p,yep for a reason,nobody with half a brain would pay for them.
I already have a game/s to play in ever genre i want to play,so now only games that can surpass what i already have will make the cut.I am not buying into LESSER products or half assed mmorpg's that do basically the same thing as games i already have,nope i want better.
To me gaming is like your used car,would you trade it in for a lesser car or an identical car of exact same value only you have to spend more money to make the trade?No you would stick with what you got,unless you just like throwing money around.What the market looks like to me is like real life,people get paid and immediately run out and buy some lotto tickets,a case of beer,head off to Wallmart for no reason than to simply find something to spend money on.Used to be a heavy dose of people get paid....let's go over the boarder to spend loads of money.A new cell phone just came out,i must buy it,the trends happen over and over everyday,people are addicted to spending money foolishly.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Last game I did buy was FO76 at launch last year. (We all make an occasional mistake)
So clearly I'm not contributing much to "the problem." (Unlike "some" people, ahem)
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
I wish other gamers would look carefully before they jump in, but with there always being new teens coming into gaming every year not sure that will ever happen.