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Proposed Chinese Game Rules Would Strictly Define What Can Be Shown to Players

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,126

imageProposed Chinese Game Rules Would Strictly Define What Can Be Shown to Players

The People's Daily, the "mouthpiece" for the Chinese government, has published a number of proposed rules to regulate game content. The published draft is a collaborative effort between Chinese governmental agencies and several gaming corporations including NetEase, Perfect World and Tencent. Under the proposed rules, gamers would be divided according to age (below 6, 12, 16, 18+), each category with its own subset of 'guidelines'.

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  • winghaven1winghaven1 Member RarePosts: 704
    Lame.
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  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Good reason to ignore the chinese market generally, pandering to the chinese market has done more than enough damage to gaming already.
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  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Member RarePosts: 2,953
    And people want western governments to get involved in the hobby...
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  • cheyanecheyane Member EpicPosts: 6,380
    edited July 1
    Phry said:
    Good reason to ignore the chinese market generally, pandering to the chinese market has done more than enough damage to gaming already.
    China is big money because of the sheer size of potential gamers so no one is going to ignore them.

    The requests are peculiar though. I guess Bioware is out.
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  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004

    cheyane said:


    Phry said:

    Good reason to ignore the chinese market generally, pandering to the chinese market has done more than enough damage to gaming already.


    China is big money because of the sheer size of potential gamers so no one is going to ignore them.

    The requests are peculiar though. I guess Bioware is out.



    Its mostly mobile, few actually have PC's or Consoles etc. while as a whole there is a lot of money involved, individually they are cash poor, in part this is why censorship, on all kinds of subjects etc. is a huge factor.
  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,910
    "It is not permitted..."
  • blueturtle13blueturtle13 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,826
    Phry said:

    cheyane said:


    Phry said:

    Good reason to ignore the chinese market generally, pandering to the chinese market has done more than enough damage to gaming already.


    China is big money because of the sheer size of potential gamers so no one is going to ignore them.

    The requests are peculiar though. I guess Bioware is out.



    Its mostly mobile, few actually have PC's or Consoles etc. while as a whole there is a lot of money involved, individually they are cash poor, in part this is why censorship, on all kinds of subjects etc. is a huge factor.

    Total console hardware and software sales in the country for 2018 amounted to $767.1 million.  Analyst predicts this will rise by 11% in 2019 to $851.1 million

    China domestic PC online game revenue was $15.21 billion in 2018. Revenue is forecast to remain impressive, reaching $16 billion by 2023

    • China’s 138,000 internet cafes are a very important part of Chinese online gaming, even more important for gamers engaged with esports.
    • Esports is currently the most important long-term driver of growth for the PC online games market. Esports game revenue was $6.3 billion in 2018, up 11.1% YoY and accounting for 41.4% of total PC online games revenue. Esports game revenue is projected reach $9.5 billion in 2023, accounting for 59.4% of PC online games revenue.


    There were 312.4 million PC online gamers in 2018 and 79.7 million of them spend money in games. The number of PC online gamers is projected to reach 354 million in 2023. (More than the population of the entire United States).



     It is far more than just mobile


    https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-06-28-niko-partners-legal-console-sales-in-china-to-overtake-grey-market-with-switch-next-gen-launches


    http://nikopartners.com/china-pc-online-games/




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  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,193
    If it passes, just means more censorship 
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  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,910
    Presumably they also have plans to "enforce" the age limits ?

    It's one thing to define a range of age brackets with "appropriate" content for each, but how do you ensure the player is in the correct age group for your game ? Then again, it's China, I'm sure they'll find a way... :wink:
  • XA20XXA20X Member UncommonPosts: 8
    So, I guess this is where I show my ugly american side but I have to know.. what does this mean for domestic markets back home? Given that most game devs are already pandering to the Chinese markets, does this mean moving forward that we're not going to get to have anymore classic bioware experiences again? Because you know EA isn't going to let bioware offend entire potential markets.

    I guess my real question is this, is this going to affect what we get to see back here at home? And if so, to what degree?
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  • Rain_DeathravenRain_Deathraven Member UncommonPosts: 87
    So basicaly no Cyberpunk 2077 for them. This is sad ...
  • AcorniaAcornia Member UncommonPosts: 250
    One guess is that current games with in-game marriages that are also played in China will have to remove it if they want to keep the game in China's market.
  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 4,704
    edited July 1
    Baffled at China's censorship of something as benign as romance or marriage. Sexual content I get (disagree with, but get), but censorship of marriage is just strange.
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  • CynehildCynehild Member UncommonPosts: 80
    Mock and ridicule as you will. More and more of Western games adapt to the Chinese rules. It's obvious that if we leave the genre in Western hands, it barely progresses. You guys barely spend anything anymore.

    Just leave it to us and the rest of Asia to carry the whole genre and maybe we'll be kind enough to translate our games to English. Which makes no difference to us because we speak your language, but you don't speak ours.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 33,966
    edited July 1
    I fail to see any connection between these new rules and China's "increasingly aggressive stance against gaming addiction."

    Well of course unless the plan is to suck all of the fun out of games, then perhaps it does relate after all.

    :D
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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,126
    Kyleran said:
    I fail to see any connection between these new rules and China's "increasingly aggressive stance against gaming addiction."

    Well of course unless the plan is to suck all of the fun out of games, then perhaps it does relate after all.

    :D
    Well, unfortunately, the proposed rules won't translate as they appear to be images instead of text. I'm sure that additional rules include time restrictions. One of the things the original article mentioned was that kids under 6 aren't allowed to play alone. How that would be enforced remains to be seen. 

    Still, sucking the fun out of games would certainly reduce game play time....sorta worked on me with WoW these days. :D
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 27,070

    Aeander said:

    Baffled at China's censorship of something as benign as romance or marriage. Sexual content I get (disagree with, but get), but censorship of marriage is just strange.



    Doing a bit of looking it seems "romance" is a capitalist concept.



  • JeffSpicoliJeffSpicoli Member EpicPosts: 2,849
    edited July 1
    I'm watching these weekend protests in Portland on youtube with these hipster types marching with a communist flag and signs for women & lgbt rights and then i read stories like this about China . What am i missing here ?
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  • ccmclaughccmclaugh Member UncommonPosts: 31
    Why highlight the rules about sex? The truly pernicious thing that the Chinese government wants to do is to control the political ideas and expressions of gamers (and everyone else).
  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 4,704
    Sovrath said:

    Aeander said:

    Baffled at China's censorship of something as benign as romance or marriage. Sexual content I get (disagree with, but get), but censorship of marriage is just strange.



    Doing a bit of looking it seems "romance" is a capitalist concept.
    Do communists reproduce by budding?
  • cheyanecheyane Member EpicPosts: 6,380
    edited July 1
    Even if they do not have the content that encourages romance since they seem to have some desire to discourage it but what is to prevent people from using chat and having some serious cyber sex. How are they going to monitor that ?

    Sorry a thought just occurred to me on that score and chills ran down my spine.
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  • skadadskadad Member UncommonPosts: 377
    Aeander said:
    Sovrath said:

    Aeander said:

    Baffled at China's censorship of something as benign as romance or marriage. Sexual content I get (disagree with, but get), but censorship of marriage is just strange.



    Doing a bit of looking it seems "romance" is a capitalist concept.
    Do communists reproduce by budding?
    reproduction and romance are not linked.
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  • cheyanecheyane Member EpicPosts: 6,380
    edited July 1
    XA20X said:
    So, I guess this is where I show my ugly american side but I have to know.. what does this mean for domestic markets back home? Given that most game devs are already pandering to the Chinese markets, does this mean moving forward that we're not going to get to have anymore classic bioware experiences again? Because you know EA isn't going to let bioware offend entire potential markets.

    I guess my real question is this, is this going to affect what we get to see back here at home? And if so, to what degree?
    They make two different games, they will edit out the romance bits. I think they just take out the conversation options. It shouldn't be that difficult. Surely you don't think they would actually develop some moral fibre and not market there, money is money after all.

    It's easy to tell yourself that if the people living there do not want their games to be regulated in this fashion they would do something but considering the various other aspects that go unchecked the people there seem powerless.

    What's happening in Hong Kong should be supported in full.
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 4,704
    edited July 1
    skadad said:
    Aeander said:
    Sovrath said:

    Aeander said:

    Baffled at China's censorship of something as benign as romance or marriage. Sexual content I get (disagree with, but get), but censorship of marriage is just strange.



    Doing a bit of looking it seems "romance" is a capitalist concept.
    Do communists reproduce by budding?
    reproduction and romance are not linked.
    Quick, everyone, to the government sanctioned dispassionate reproduction pile! But don't you dare enjoy yourselves!
    skadad
  • black9iceblack9ice Member UncommonPosts: 115

    SBFord said:


    Kyleran said:

    I fail to see any connection between these new rules and China's "increasingly aggressive stance against gaming addiction."



    Well of course unless the plan is to suck all of the fun out of games, then perhaps it does relate after all.



    :D


    Well, unfortunately, the proposed rules won't translate as they appear to be images instead of text. I'm sure that additional rules include time restrictions. One of the things the original article mentioned was that kids under 6 aren't allowed to play alone. How that would be enforced remains to be seen. 

    Still, sucking the fun out of games would certainly reduce game play time....sorta worked on me with WoW these days. :D



    Um, enforced? They just come into your home.
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