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Square Enix Considering a Subscription Service Because of Course They Are

blueturtle13blueturtle13 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,741
"We are exploring at present both possibilities," Square Enix president Yosuke Matsuda told GamesIndustry.biz at E3. "And we do already provide games for Microsoft's Game Pass. But at the end of the day, the direction that we're thinking about is having a channel of our own."

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-06-13-square-enix-eyes-its-own-subscription-service



 It seems that all the major players are creating or have sub services. Pretty soon we may just sub to channels like a cable TV provider or a Roku without the ability to play the content anywhere else. 

Personally I am getting subscription fatigue.
 

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  • ArteriusArterius Member RarePosts: 1,059
    Honestly depending on the price i would sub to Square Enix. I know people give them a lot of flak but to this day I still play a lot of their games and have a good time. Not to mention if he had their back catalouge. It interests me more then ubisoft or EA ever could. I do agree I have a lot of sub services now

    Hulu, Netflix, WWE Network, Sling in the fall to watch AEW, Hbo Now, Amazon Prime, Disney+ in November. Gosh that is a lot of subscription :/
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 12,445
    It's been happening for TV and movie streaming for a while now with everyone competing with Netflix. It's annoying that it's so spread out and locked into so many different channels with their own sub.

    It's enough to make you seriously think about streaming from the pirate streaming services in Russia and elsewhere.
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  • ArteriusArterius Member RarePosts: 1,059
    Iselin said:
    It's been happening for TV and movie streaming for a while now with everyone competing with Netflix. It's annoying that it's so spread out and locked into so many different channels with their own sub.

    It's enough to make you seriously think about streaming from the pirate streaming services in Russia and elsewhere.
    I could never do that myself. I am originally from CA and the LA area on top of that. So I have family who work in Hollywood. No actors or anything but they do camera work and the grunt behind the scenes stuff. I know how much work goes into making even the smallest of TV shows. I could never pirate. I would choose to just not watch.
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  • parrotpholkparrotpholk Member EpicPosts: 4,602
    I am ok with this especially if it already includes access to FFXIV.  I play so many games from them already then would have no issue with it.  If it is on top of subfee for XIV then would jump in and out when a new game I really wants to play comes out.
    Arterius
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 12,445
    Arterius said:
    Iselin said:
    It's been happening for TV and movie streaming for a while now with everyone competing with Netflix. It's annoying that it's so spread out and locked into so many different channels with their own sub.

    It's enough to make you seriously think about streaming from the pirate streaming services in Russia and elsewhere.
    I could never do that myself. I am originally from CA and the LA area on top of that. So I have family who work in Hollywood. No actors or anything but they do camera work and the grunt behind the scenes stuff. I know how much work goes into making even the smallest of TV shows. I could never pirate. I would choose to just not watch.
    I have also had several friends and even family members do the same here in Hollywood North (Vancouver.) Never saw any of them get rich from it though. Profits have a way of not trickling down to them.

    I have to admit though that they eat well judging by the buffets I've been able to eat the few times they've sneaked me in to location shoots :)
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 32,938
    edited June 13
    I play one, and only one game at a time until I'm "finished" with it, setting it aside permanently, usually never to go back.

    These services make no sense to me, the concept of playing multiple games at the same time is as foreign as reading multiple novels simultaneously, just never would happen. 

    Sux to discover you are one of the last dinosaurs (stagnantsaurus) left on earth, oh well,  it was a good run.

    ;)
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  • ArteriusArterius Member RarePosts: 1,059
    Kyleran said:
    I play one, and only one game at a time until I'm "finished" with it, setting it aside permanently, usually never to go back.

    These services make no sense to me, the concept of playing multiple games at the same time is as foreign as reading multiple novels simultaneously, just never would happen. 

    Sux to discover you are one of the last dinosaurs (stagnantsaurus) left on earth, oh well,  it was a good run.

    ;)
    I play one game at a time to but I still think Square would be a good fit. Not to mention most of there games are dozens and dozens of hours long. I would love to play The Legend of Dragoon again. I would pay $10 a month for just that
  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,128
    I like streaming services but I also get sub fatigue. My guess is this situation will end up a lot like Prime and Hulu with more exclusives.

    Right now I pay for Netflix, Hulu, and Prime with 3 or 4 channels depending on what we want to watch. We always have Acorn, Britbox, and Boombox. Sometimes we'll add others like Shout! for a month or so then cancel after we've watched the movies or series we want. When Disney launches their service I plan on dropping Netflix and Hulu and keeping Prime with all the channels.

    The thing about these channels is they are only around $3 - $10 per month and offer thousands of shows each. I don't think video game publishers are in the same position to offer the same content. So the number of pubs I see pulling this off are limited. On top of that channels like HBO have GoT and several blockbusters and even fewer publishers can offer that on top of even trying their hand at a channel.

    Are these publishers willing to forego revenue to gate their content? That's risky in the VG industry.
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  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 6,219
    edited June 13
    I think the funniest thing I've heard so far is the ubisoft one having a subscription akin to EA's but it has interplay with Stadia or w/e google is calling which I do believe will have a free version but also a sub version....so, having a sub for your sub.....sounds like the direction we want to move in!

    I dont know about SE though, half their stuff is initially playstation exclusive so what would exactly be the point? PC ports? Some are ok, but at the same time some are just straight up lazy or incompetent (just look at the pc ports for FFXIII trilogy with the first 2 having mouse support but the last having it gone completely).
  • ShinamiShinami Member UncommonPosts: 825
    I like FF XIV. 

    Problem with Square-Enix (or most console gaming developers) is that once the console dies out and a new model replaces the old one, a lot of those games phase out. Then the public is forced to deal with a re-release of a game that existed on a previous console simply because the console no longer exists. 

    On the case of Square-Enix, you look at iOS and Steam and find out that a lot of Square-Enix sales goes towards games that were popular and good in the 80s and 90s. While they also own Eidos, I already own a lot of those PC games and don't need a sub as I can play games on Windows 10 that existed in the late 80s and early 90s in computer gaming. 

    Right now, I only play 1 - 2 Square-Enix games. 
    However, The Japanese market is about Channel Subscription Based Services and Handheld Devices, so it makes sense for the Japanese to do what works for them, even if it might not work well in Europe or North America. 
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,755
    I usually play four games at a time.  I also will rotate through other games once or twice a year.  I don't see having multiple gaming services but will probably pick the one I play the most games on.

    If this catches on Steam, GoG, Epic, and others will start thinking about a discounts subscription service.  
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 4,286
    edited June 14
    I don't like all of these individual publisher subscription services.

    If major platform holders like Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony all want to offer a gamepass equivalent, then that's fine. They have the value and the variety to do so.

    EA lacks both value and variety.

    Ubisoft and Square have value, but lack variety. And frankly, Square's release cadence doesn't justify one. Maybe if they wrap in an FFXIV subscription in that cost.
  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member RarePosts: 5,146
    edited June 14
    And then there's Stadia. Yet another subscription service that will "allow" you to play other subscription games for their own subscription price :)

    I wonder how long it will take Steam to jump on this bandwagon...
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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member EpicPosts: 6,869
    None of their games appeal to me....Even if they did, i won't go with a sub service..... waste of money.
  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,128
    AlBQuirky said:
    And then there's Stadia. Yet another subscription service that will "allow" you to play other subscription games for their own subscription price :)

    I wonder how long it will take Steam to jump on this bandwagon...
    I'm pretty sure Valve has been working on this for a long time. SteamPlay and Proton have been in development since at least Steam Machines and SteamOS. Maybe their original intent was just to have a Windows (Microsoft) free gaming console, but I think they've been pursuing some sort of streaming options because of Steam Link and the various other streaming services they already provide - stream casting, local streaming from a host computer over the network, etc.

    Also the tech driving Google Stadia is basically the same tech Steam uses for SteamPlay Proton which is WINE, DXVK, and Proton.
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 26,530
    None of their games appeal to me....Even if they did, i won't go with a sub service..... waste of money.
    Well it depends.

    "I" replay games so I prefer to own them. But if you play games quickly and tend not to revisit them you could actually be saving money.

    Provided the service is actually good.


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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,128
    AlBQuirky said:
    And then there's Stadia. Yet another subscription service that will "allow" you to play other subscription games for their own subscription price :)

    I wonder how long it will take Steam to jump on this bandwagon...

    The source links are in the parent article, but it points to Steam news.
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  • RobokappRobokapp Member RarePosts: 6,026
    end of F2P generation. finally.
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 12,445
    Robokapp said:
    end of F2P generation. finally.
    Yeah but replaced by what exactly?

    I have to admit though that I have always liked the idea of several MMOs banding together and providing access to all of them for one monthly fee. But my idea of that is more Ready Player One like where your same avatar uses all the different worlds and your advancement, status and wealth carries from one to another... more like virtual person than virtual world.

    That's the kind of sub service that would interest me.
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  • crankkedcrankked Member UncommonPosts: 76
    Iselin said:
    Robokapp said:
    end of F2P generation. finally.
    Yeah but replaced by what exactly?

    I have to admit though that I have always liked the idea of several MMOs banding together and providing access to all of them for one monthly fee. But my idea of that is more Ready Player One like where your same avatar uses all the different worlds and your advancement, status and wealth carries from one to another... more like virtual person than virtual world.

    That's the kind of sub service that would interest me.
    Wow that is a god damn good idea.  One that I would also pay for.  Get this man (or woman) a beer!
  • viney123viney123 Member UncommonPosts: 55
    Great business idea... Include FFXIV subscription with it and bolster their subscription numbers even more. A lot of these game companies with subscriptions don't have MMOs like SE does, so they could use this to their advantage - to make their sub numbers look even better. >.> 

    Looks like Netflix was one of the first to catch onto a sub model like this working for just about every service out there. Gaming was bound to catch onto the same model. In fact, not only are we seeing different games being offered with services, but Stadia and XCloud will tack on the entire server with it as well and allow you to get maximized performance without having to use your own hardware...
  • GorweGorwe Member EpicPosts: 5,946
    edited June 14
    No. I hate commitments, subs are commitments hence they can FUCK OFF! I want to be FREE not SHACKLED(no amount of fancy talk will turn this truth: hard subs ARE SHACKLES)!

    I don't like at all where this is heading...

    AlBQuirky said:
    And then there's Stadia. Yet another subscription service that will "allow" you to play other subscription games for their own subscription price :)

    I wonder how long it will take Steam to jump on this bandwagon.

    And THAT, that is scary! If that happens, back to YARR!, I don't care.
  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member EpicPosts: 10,231
    AlBQuirky said:
    And then there's Stadia. Yet another subscription service that will "allow" you to play other subscription games for their own subscription price :)

    I wonder how long it will take Steam to jump on this bandwagon...
    The cool thing about stadia though is it doesn't HAVE to be a subscription though.
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