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Okay WTF is a MMO? Really?

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  • CryomatrixCryomatrix Member EpicPosts: 2,632
    klash2def said:
    2014 ME an Intellectual: "I think Destiny is an MMO (At least Lite) here's why I think this"

    2014 random mmorpg.com forum user: "IDIOT. YOU MUST THINK A TRUCK IS a CAR TOO!"

    2014 ME an Intellectual: "No, mister...there is a diff between a car and a truck, but I do think both of those things can be one thing, it's called a Crossover SUV. We say Truck when we mean SUV because an SUV is a type of truck. People that drive Range Rover don't say I'm going to wash my SUV, they say they are washing the -truck-. Although it's not exactly a -truck- (SUV), they aren't exactly wrong for saying it." 



    2019 Bungie Creators of Destiny: "Destiny is an Action MMO" 
    2019 Me an Intellectual: "Nice."
    2019 random mmorpg.com user: "Bungie is stupid, booooooo klash2def the *insert random insult*!" 


    2019 Me an Intellectual:
     






    You forgot:

    2014 Cryomatrix: Doesn't give a shit
    2019 Cryomatrix: Still not giving a shit
    2024 Cryomatrix: . . . 
    Catch me streaming at twitch.tv/cryomatrix
    You can see my sci-fi/WW2 book recommendations. 
  • klash2defklash2def Member EpicPosts: 1,542
    edited June 8
    klash2def said:
    2014 ME an Intellectual: "I think Destiny is an MMO (At least Lite) here's why I think this"

    2014 random mmorpg.com forum user: "IDIOT. YOU MUST THINK A TRUCK IS a CAR TOO!"

    2014 ME an Intellectual: "No, mister...there is a diff between a car and a truck, but I do think both of those things can be one thing, it's called a Crossover SUV. We say Truck when we mean SUV because an SUV is a type of truck. People that drive Range Rover don't say I'm going to wash my SUV, they say they are washing the -truck-. Although it's not exactly a -truck- (SUV), they aren't exactly wrong for saying it." 



    2019 Bungie Creators of Destiny: "Destiny is an Action MMO" 
    2019 Me an Intellectual: "Nice."
    2019 random mmorpg.com user: "Bungie is stupid, booooooo klash2def the *insert random insult*!" 


    2019 Me an Intellectual:
     






    You forgot:

    2014 Cryomatrix: Doesn't give a shit
    2019 Cryomatrix: Still not giving a shit
    2024 Cryomatrix: . . . 
    hmm, you do a lot of quoting for someone who doesn't give a shit... very interesting! oFc You don't care now, because you realize I was right and Bungie confirmed it.  But you did a lot of back and forth for a person who didnt give a shit... lol... Twitch hasn't given you that partnership yet? Better get back to work! 

    Try Streaming Destiny yet? 
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  • CryomatrixCryomatrix Member EpicPosts: 2,632
    klash2def said:
    klash2def said:
    2014 ME an Intellectual: "I think Destiny is an MMO (At least Lite) here's why I think this"

    2014 random mmorpg.com forum user: "IDIOT. YOU MUST THINK A TRUCK IS a CAR TOO!"

    2014 ME an Intellectual: "No, mister...there is a diff between a car and a truck, but I do think both of those things can be one thing, it's called a Crossover SUV. We say Truck when we mean SUV because an SUV is a type of truck. People that drive Range Rover don't say I'm going to wash my SUV, they say they are washing the -truck-. Although it's not exactly a -truck- (SUV), they aren't exactly wrong for saying it." 



    2019 Bungie Creators of Destiny: "Destiny is an Action MMO" 
    2019 Me an Intellectual: "Nice."
    2019 random mmorpg.com user: "Bungie is stupid, booooooo klash2def the *insert random insult*!" 


    2019 Me an Intellectual:
     






    You forgot:

    2014 Cryomatrix: Doesn't give a shit
    2019 Cryomatrix: Still not giving a shit
    2024 Cryomatrix: . . . 
    hmm, you do a lot of quoting for someone who doesn't give a shit... very interesting! oFc You don't care now, because you realize I was right and Bungie confirmed it.  But you did a lot of back and forth for a person who didnt give a shit... lol... Twitch hasn't given you that partnership yet? Better get back to work! 

    Try Streaming Destiny yet? 
    You confused me for someone, i doubt i had any back and forth as I rarely do it.
    Catch me streaming at twitch.tv/cryomatrix
    You can see my sci-fi/WW2 book recommendations. 
  • MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 6,945
    Prime example

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/905370/Conquerors_Blade/?l=romanian

    Master the art of medieval warcraft in this free-to-play tactical action MMO. Create a unique warlord from 10 different classes, and wage war in epic 15 v 15 siege battles. Employ special abilities, devastating weapons, and cunning strategies to reshape this vast open world into your new empire.

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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member EpicPosts: 2,825
    Sovrath said:
    Sovrath said:
    Sovrath said:
    And the silence...  Is deafening.
    I do other things as well you know!  ;)

    So think of it this way, if a massive amount of people access online poker yet no one has ever offered that online poker is an mmo there must be other criteria that also play into the decision.

    And again, it doesn't matter what we say here. If in 5 years people start calling online poker an mmo then "it is what it is."

    Sorry but people can stomp and shout and jump and gnash their teeth all they want. 

    Some games are being called mmo's and it seems that only a few people have issue with it. 

    What does this mean?

    That in a few years online poker will be an mmo! :p
    Well, that's my point: there's not set criteria.  Everyone took the ball and, as soon as the floodgates opened, ran in different directions.  Hence, the lack of clarity and consistency.

    It's rendered the term meaningless in the sense that it's better served with a term we already have (hence why MMO was ever coined in the first place to separate a specific sort of multiplayer).
    Except you're not going to get that. You want things to be as you see them but that's just not how life works.

    Maybe, that "term we already have" will no longer be used and "mmo" will be the new term?

    See what I'm saying? you should be excited, you are witnessing the changing of a term right in front of your eyes!

    That's history!
    I doubt etymologists focus on this particular term. :D

    If there were any consistency to it, it'd be acceptable.  There isn't.  You talk of making the world the way one wants as if the start of this thing wasn't literally some marketing team doing the same.  That's neither here nor there, because it's equally applicable to both sides of the discussion (and since it was the evolution stance that originally tried to alter an accepted meaning, they're more guilty of that than even the traditionalists).
    Does their have to be consistency? As far as I'm aware all language has been plagued by inconsistency.

    Heck, in upstate new york "soda" is called pop. And on some places it's actually called "coke" no matter what type of soda it is.

    If said "sourdough" to  you you would say  "... it's the best damn bread in the world next to Rye..." (right? RIGHT?!?!?)

    but in Alaska it doesn't mean bread at all.

    I would say, given that i'm no professional in the study of language, that the only consistent thing about language is it follows the path of least resistance. Whatever is more easily adapted, understood and used is what it becomes.

    Remember, "Aweful" now "Awful" used to mean that something inspired Awe. Now it means something horrible. Rubbers were those little boots that you had a heck of a time pulling on over your shoes.

    etc, etc.

    You aren't going to get consistency. Sorry. 
    As someone who has actually studied language and etymology professionaly I can tell you you are right. Languages are dynamic and change constantly, erretically. There were static languages too where words and phrases never changed meaning and they all have one thing in common, they are now extinct. An important distinction is that between dialect and language btw, dialect behaves slightly differently.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir  
    'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'

    Kyleran on yours sincerely 


    But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.

    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 10,998
    Prime example

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/905370/Conquerors_Blade/?l=romanian

    Master the art of medieval warcraft in this free-to-play tactical action MMO. Create a unique warlord from 10 different classes, and wage war in epic 15 v 15 siege battles. Employ special abilities, devastating weapons, and cunning strategies to reshape this vast open world into your new empire.
    Not the first time people or companies have told lies to promote their product, reality however soon proves the lie to be what it is, which in this case is fairly obvious, not an MMO.
    Scorchien
  • LimnicLimnic Member RarePosts: 1,116
    edited June 10
    Just a random note.

    Sweetbread, in addition to referring to the likes of Hawaiian Sweetbread, which is a type of bread, can also refer the thymus or pancreas of an animal (often cows, and lambs, but others too), which is consequently a type of meat.

    Depending on who and where you ask for sweetbread. You can get something very different.

    Just an example from personal experience. :p
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